On 10/21/2019 at 5:11 PM, James DiEugenio said:

Pretty darn friendly if you ask me.  Man, they are almost hugging him. 

Larry, which address do you mean, the 605 one?

Jim,

The Elsbeth address could have come in one of two different ways:

1) is through the FBI. Hosty told the WC that he had known of the Elsbeth St. address as far back as March of 1963. LHO , was brought back to police headquarters around 2:00 PM or so, and even though Hosty didn't get there until 3:00 or so, Bookhout was already there and could have called back to the office to see if the FBI had anything on this Oswald guy.

2) The other way the police could have gotten the Elsbeth address was via the Lumpkin to Crichton to George Bouhe pipeline. Bouhe had Oswald's Elsbeth address as far back as November, 1962, and we know that Crichton had an inside line on info to the White Russian community because of his call to Mamamtov looking for an interpreter.

Revill wrote a memo to Gannaway about Oswald around 3:00 or 3:15 PM and used the Elsbeth St. address, so we know they had it as early as that, but I don't know that the police got it via Roy Truly.

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Bart Kamp said:

That is correct Steve

Closer inspection shows the sleeves are rolled down. I will show you a sample tomorrow or Thursday. 

On 10/21/2019 at 10:27 AM, Robin Unger said:

Bell Gif 

frames taken from "The lost bullet Documentary"

 

 

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Steve Thomas

12 hours ago, Bart Kamp said:

The person on the right has his sleeves rolled down Steve.

And the second frame is Darnell not Wiegman

Bart,

Thanks. You know a whole lot more about this stuff than I do.

The guy in the right hand picture - his sleeves are not rolled up?

Steve Thomas

8 hours ago, Bill Simpich said:

Right, Steve, Peter Dale Scott studied Senkel and Turner for years and has always had a number of concerns about them and their handling of the evidence.  They would fit the description of "Fritz's men".

Senkel and Turner were also in the lead car of the motorcade with Lumpkin, Lt. Col. George Whitmeyer and Democratic National Committee advance man Jack Puterbaugh.  Senkel said "Lumpkin explained that we would be driving ahead of the motorcade about a half -mile."  Connally had worked hard to ensure that the Trade Mart was the luncheon site, with Puterbaugh, SS Winston Lawson and others checking it out ahead of time.  The motorcade route hit the papers on the 19th.   

Turner also referred to the man as "Harvey Lee Oswald" in his report.

Bill,

Thanks for the tip about Turner's reference to Harvey Lee Oswald. I will add it to my list of HLO references.

This convinces me more than ever that either Billy Senkel, or F.M. Turner was the policeman out in the hall who told Will Fritz that Oswald lived on Beckley; and that the source of the DPD's knowledge of N. Beckley was military intelligence.

DPD Archives Box 3, Folder# 12, Item# 1 Undated Report of B.L. Senkel.

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box3.htm

He rode in the motorcade's pilot car along with Deputy Chief George Lumpkin, F.M. Turner, George L. Whitmeyer, and Jack Puterbaugh. Senkel was in left rear seat.

(Lumpkin and Whitmeyer were Army Intelligence Reserves).

At 2:40 PM, W.E. Potts, B.L. Senkel and Lt. E.L. Cunningham were dispatched to 1026 N. Beckley. Potts wrote in his after-action report (Box 2, Folder# 9, Item# 32) http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box2.htm that after he finished taking some affidavits, Fritz dispatched them to the Beckely St address at 2:40 and they arrived at Beckley at 3:00PM.

Walter E. Potts, Billy L. Senkel and Fay M. Turner were Detectives in Will Fritz's Homicide Bureau.

Lt. Elmo L. Cunningham was a lieutenant in the Forgery Bureau. Both Bureaus were part of the Criminal Investigation Division.

Batchelor's Exhibit 5002 (19H)

http://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf

Billy Senkel, who rode in the Pilot Car with Army Reserve Officers George Lumpkin and George Whitmeyer, who was dispatched to 1026 N. Beckley, and when arriving, asked for Harvey Lee Oswald.

Was Senkel the unknown policeman who told Fritz out in the hall that Oswald lived on Beckley?

Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, they asked him if there was a Harvey Lee Oswald there.

Mrs. ROBERTS. No---he registered as O. H. Lee and they were asking for Harvey Lee Oswald.

In his undated After-Action Report (DPD Archives Box 3, Folder# 13, Item# 1, Page# 7, http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box3.htm F.M. Turner wrote that on November 25, 1963 a picture of Harvey Lee Oswald  DPD# 54018 was shown to witness, Ronald Fischer of Mesquite, Texas, who said that the picture looked like a man who he (Fischer) “saw at the window where the shots were fired from”.

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Bill Simpich said:

The officers that visited Roberts at 2:40 pm were Lt. Elmo L. Cunningham, with police officers Bill Senkel and William Potts.   Roberts referred to them as "Fritz's men" -

Whether or not they were "Fritz's men", Cunningham and Potts were clearly the "Bunko Squad" - the forgery unit,

Bill,

A small note:

Walter E. Potts and Billy Senkel were both with the Homicide and Robbery Bureau, and would indeed be considered "Fritz's men"

see page 29 of Batchelor's Exhibit

https://www.history-matters.com/archive/jfk/wc/wcvols/wh19/pdf/WH19_Batchelor_Ex_5002.pdf

They probably wore those white Stetsons that made the Detectives from H&R so recognizable.

Cunningham was with the Forgery Bureau - see p. 31 of the same Exhibit. I had never noticed before that there was an Earl Potts in Forgery. I wonder if he was related to Walter.

Looks like a number of people came out of Forgery:

O.A. Jones, who would spearhead an internal investigation of how Ruby got into the basement

Marvin Buhk, who would encounter "Secret Service Agents" at the Library

William Chambers, who would interrogate the Three Tramps

Patsy Collins and Mary Rattan, who would take so many of the Affidavits.

Steve Thomas

Without getting into the whole Prayerman debate, and whether or not you think this is LHO at all, do you think this is the same person?

The first image is one of the Altgens' pictures (CE 369), and the second is a frame from the Weigman film.

I don't see how it could be, unless this person took the time to roll up his sleeves and button up his shirt.

Steve Thomas

I myself would be interested in learning more about the relationship between Roy Truly and D.H. Byrd.

Roy Truly - Fred Korth connection

posted by Greg Wagner in the ROKC Forum 12/23/17

Roy Truly:

"Born August 9 1907.
·Began work for the Texas Book Depository in 1934 as head of the Miscellaneous Dept. – the same job Bill Shelley was filling in 1963
·Became superintendent in 1944 and at some stage was made a co-director of the company
·During WW II he held a second job at night at the North American Aviation Plant in Arlington by cutting down his hours at the depository."

“Corsicana Daily Sun” from Corsicana, Texas March 31, 1970 Page 10

https://www.newspapers.com/newspage/41268447/

“The building (the Texas School Book Depository) is owned by the Dallas Trust Corp. The majority stockholder of the firm, Col. D. Harold Byrd, 69, has decided to liquidate some of his holdings.”

I tried to do a little research on the Dallas Trust Corp., but a simple Google search failed to yield any results.

John Simkin in the Education Forum December 2, 2006.

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/8715-david-harold-byrd/

“In 1944 Byrd founded Byrd Oil Corporation and B-H Drilling Corporation. In 1952 Byrd established the Three States Natural Gas Company.

Byrd later sold Byrd Oil to Mobil and Three States to Delhi-Taylor. Byrd used this money to invest in aircraft production and established Temco. A company that employed Mac Wallace after he was convicted of killing John Kinser.”

Linda J. Minor writes in her blog: Quixotic Joust

http://quixoticjoust.blogspot.com/2011/06/other-uranium-explorers-in-texas-in.html

“Other Uranium Explorers in Texas in the 1950's “

“Jerrell Dean Palmer writes: "In 1952 the entrepreneur [Byrd] began to phase out Byrd-Frost and organized the Three States Natural Gas Company, which was purchased by Delhi-Taylor Oil Corporation in 1961."

https://tshaonline.org/handbook/online/articles/fby13

The United Press reported in mid-March of 1955: "Byrd Uranium Corp. had a new charter from Delaware Thursday making it a wholly-owned subsidiary of Byrd Oil Corp., President D. Harold Byrd said. The new company, authorized to operate in Colorado, Utah, New Mexico and Texas, will examine uranium prospects on the oil company's extensive holdings in the Rocky Mountain region."

It would have been during this period of time that George De Mohrenschildt's resume * reflects he worked for Three States Natural Gas in the Rocky Mountain area and in the Uintah basin.

* COL. LAWRENCE ORLOV: EDUCATIONAL AND PROFESSIONAL RECORD

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=7491#relPageId=3&tab=page

This is actually a resume of George DeMohrenschildt that he gave to Orlov in 1958.

“During the period of 1949 – 1959 acted as consultant on various projects, namely in Haiti, West Indies... for Western Hemisphere Oil Corporation; in France... for Three States Natural Gas Company...” “July, 1946 to January, 1949. Field Engineer for one year and then Chairman of Rangely Field Engineering Geological Committee, Colorado.”

Mac Wallace?

George DeMohrenschildt?

Roy Truly was a co-director in Byrd's company that owned the TSBD?

What other connections might there be out there?

Steve Thomas

2 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

And Oswald said that?

Jim,

According to Holmes, he did.

And Bart, you wrote that it is a theory; but I ask, how could Oswald have known that Truly was at the front door vouching for employees unless he seen it happen with his own eyes?

From 12:30 on, Oswald was never in a position to have seen that activity going on.

For me, it's not a question of why Oswald left so early, but rather; if he was guilty, why did he hang around for so long?

Steve Thomas

Why Would Russia, China—and Iran—Plan Joint Naval Exercises?

https://www.thedailybeast.com/why-would-russia-chinaand-iranplan-joint-naval-exercises?ref=home

Uh oh.

Steve Thomas

On 10/20/2019 at 3:46 PM, James DiEugenio said:

Steve:

Can you give me a little more on that aspect?

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Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said:

Is it safe to say that Truly is responsible for two aspect of it.

First, after Baker's first day affidavit denying the second floor encounter, is it not Truly who puts it together?

Second, isn't it Truly who runs the mirage line up and reports Oswald as missing to the police?

Jim,

And how Truly changed a first floor encounter alongside Lieutenant Erich Kaminsky at the front door with LHO to a second floor encounter alongside Baker.

(although that might be part of your #1)

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Larry Hancock said:

Well if anyone ever locates them we would certainly work to get them on MFF....my guess is somebody just decided it was no longer newsworthy at the paper and din't think much about just wiping them.  I will try and contact the Archivist and confirm the museum has them.  Anyone really interested in them should pursue it there as well I would think.

Larry,

You can find a little more conversation about these records from 2008 here:

Oswald and Ruby: The Transcript

http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/12284-oswald-and-ruby-the-transcript/

Bill Kelly wrote:

“The Dallas DA says that he is considering giving the records to the Sixth Floor or Smithsonian, when I say they should be given to a Grand Jury to determine if there is any evidence that can implicate suspects in crimes related to the assassination.”

Chris Courtright wrote:

“The documents and materials need to be given to the National Archives. Let's remember that even though the ARRB sunset, the JFK Act has not.

To hell with Gary Mack and/or the Smithsonian.”

Charles Drago wrote:

“In the meantime, let's do what we can to keep the material off the Sixth Floor. “

Tosh Plumlee wrote:

P.S I just got off the telephone from a Dallas source: "... Bob. if you have anyway of getting information to the right people then try to get them to write to Dallas authorities requesting an investigation into this find, overwhelm them if you can.., before all this is again lost. I feel the time is right. I know some are trying to buy the rights to this information and lock it up again..".

Sounds like a good idea to me. Perhaps that would block any thing going to a museum or being purged or sorted out.”

John Simkin wrote:

“It seems the Dallas News wants help in interpreting this material.

http://www.dallasnews.com/sharedcontent/dw...s.15b53191.html

The paper has set up a forum to discuss these documents. So far no one has posted on the subject:

http://www.dallasnews.com/forums/viewforum...1efd4c2c4c993ee “

I took it upon myself to try and give them some sort of index, and urged the DMN to give the pdfs to the MFF so they could be made keyword searchable. They did not take my suggestion.

In his original post, Gary Buell wrote:

The DA's office gave the documents to the DMN in electronic form. If you try and follow those links, you just get a 404 error. They no longer reside on that DMN server.

Does the DA's office still have copies of the original pdf's?

Steve Thomas

9 minutes ago, Larry Hancock said:

Steve, this thread is a bit hard to follow for me....who created the pdfs?    Seems like a waste of energy if they were not to be posted someplace....  

Larry,

The Dallas Morning News did. (At least it was where you went to go read them).

When the decision was made to house the actual physical documents, the pdf website went down. I do not know where the pdf files are. I agree that it was an incredible waste of energy to create them, and then not host them somewhere you could get access to them over the Internet. One day they were there, and the next day, they weren't. What a loss.

At the time I reviewed them, I was not in a position to store them - of course, they were not mine to begin with.

Steve Thomas

8 hours ago, Larry Hancock said:

It should be pretty easy to resolve whether they are at the Sixth Floor Museum, just contact the archivist.  And as far as we have seen in recent years the only restriction on access would have to be something established by the owner during the grant of transfer.

Larry,

I have no doubt that the physical documents reside at the museum, but where are the pdf files that were created?

Steve Thomas

On 10/20/2019 at 2:04 AM, Bill Simpich said:

Here's an important addition to bullet point #7:

 

Revill said he got the list on 11/22 of TSBD employees that he gave to Gannaway, led with the wrong address of "Harvey Lee Oswald" as "605 Elsbeth" - this address came from from Detective Carroll or Detective Taylor or other "officers involved in the arrest".  The list names a number of people as not in the building!   

 

Even Dulles claimed he wanted to know the story on the Elsbeth address - which was probably parked in the Army's "Harvey Lee Oswald" intelligence file for some time - and Revill could have got it from Army Intelligence either before or on 11/22.  Revill's response for Dulles and the WC on 5/19/64 was that he got it orally from Carroll, who misread the 602 Elsbeth address on LHO's library card when he looked at Oswald's wallet from "back over his shoulder" - Carroll was sitting in the front seat, so it's at least credible.  

 

But note how the "Harvey Lee Oswald" is also in there - and that was the Army's file on him.  Carroll did not "misread" that - there was all kinds of info in the wallet, none with that name!  Also note how the WC refused to address the "Harvey Lee Oswald" on the list, only the "605 Elsbeth".

 

Bill,

Mr. DULLES. I think that would be useful. I would like to know that. I would like to know where they got this address also.

Mr. REVILL. It would have been the same day because this was made within an hour----

The CHAIRMAN. I think that is all. Thank you, again, lieutenant.
Mr. REVILL. I will attempt to find out on that address, and I shall let Mr. Sorrels know, with Secret Service.

It's Dulles, not Rankin who keeps pushing Revill where he got this address. Is Dulles concerned that Revill knew about a connection of a Harvey Lee Oswald to Elsbeth St, and how Revill would know about that? Just about the time when Revill would have revealed when he obtained this address, he is cut off.

Warren Commission Document# 948 is a memo from Sorrels to Inspector Kelley dated May 19, 1964.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11344#relPageId=2&tab=page

In that memo, Sorrels says that Revill contacted Sorrels (it does not say how this contact was made), and said that Revill told him he got the 605 Elsbeth address orally from Bob Carroll. As the driver of the car that took Oswald from the Theater to the police station, Carroll allegedly looked back over his shoulder and read the address off a Dallas Public Library card that had been removed from Oswald's billfold by one of the officers in the back seat. Carroll allegedly said that he misread the number as 605 instead of 602.

This is six days after Revilll's WC testimony, and one month after Bob Carroll told the WC that no mention of an address had been made in the car transporting Oswald to City Hall.

Detective Bob Carroll's testimony before the Warren Commission April 3, 1964

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/carroll.htm

Mr. BELIN. Did he give two names? Or did someone in the car read from the identification?
Mr. CARROLL. Someone in the car may have read from the identification. I know two names, the best I recall, were mentioned.
Mr. BELIN. Were any addresses mentioned?
Mr. CARROLL. Not that I recall; no, sir.

In their after-action reports filed with Chief Curry on December 3rd, neither Caroll (DPD Archives Box 5, Folder# 2, Item# 73), nor Detective E.E. Taylor, Special Services Bureau, Narcotics Section (DPD Archives Box 5, Folder# 2, Item# 81) make any mention of giving Revill Oswald’s address.

http://jfk.ci.dallas.tx.us/box5.htm

K.E. Lyon, who was also in the car transporting Oswald to City Hall in his report: Box 5, Folder# 2, Item# 78 makes no mention of obtaining Oswald's address

A copy of the Library Card can be found in CD 5, page 492.

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10406#relPageId=497&tab=page

The Library Card that does exist in the official records as shown above is in the name of Lee Harvey Oswald, but when the police arrived at Beckley, they were looking for someone named Harvey Lee Oswald. The housekeeper, Earlene Roberts testified to the Warren Commission, that,

Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, it was Will Fritz' men---it was plainclothesmen and I was at the back doing something and Mr. Johnson answered the door and they identified themselves and then he called me.
Mr. BALL. What did they say?
Mrs. ROBERTS. Well, they asked him if there was a Harvey Lee Oswald there.

Mr. BALL. And you didn't have that name you didn't ever know his name was Lee Oswald?
Mrs. ROBERTS. No---he registered as O. H. Lee and they were asking for Harvey Lee Oswald.

The police had been dispatched to N. Beckley at 2:40 PM.

Steve Thomas

21 minutes ago, Anthony Thorne said:

Are those particular files physically accessible to researchers?

Anthony,

Back in 2008, when the Dallas Morning News made these available online, I went through them pretty extensively.

You can find my analyses (pl of analysis?) here:

New Dallas Documents Online

In the end, when the News was trying to decide what to do with these documents, I urged the News to donate them to the Mary Ferrell Foundation where they could be scanned and made keyword searchable. Instead, it's my understanding that they were given to the Sixth Floor Museum where they remain locked up.

(Gary Mack and I went round and round about this. He assured me they would be accessible).

Steve Thomas

On 10/19/2019 at 1:17 PM, John Butler said:

Yep.  That's correct.  It appears that sometimes they rolled their trousers up.  In this familiar photo look at the way the trousers and boots are worn.  Marines did not blouse boots until their regulations changed in 2003.  So any photos of the 1950s or 60s should reflect that dress code of unbloused boots.

 

John,

I respect the work you do, and not having been in the military, I would defer to your knowledge about how some things work, but in researching 

U.S. Marines 1950's - Images, I ran across several pictures of Marines with their boots "bloused" - like this one:

https://macaudailytimes.com.mo/this-day-in-history-1950-pyongyang-taken-as-un-retreats.html

It looks like sometimes they did, and sometimes they didn't.

Steve Thomas

I wondered a little bit about the "dragging guns up the mountainside" reference by Oswald in his conversation with Priscilla Johnson.

I asked myself why Americans would be doing the manual labor.

These references might explain it a little bi, and lend some credence to what Oswald was saying:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Taiwan

"During the Second Taiwan Strait Crisis in September 1958, Taiwan's landscape saw Nike-Hercules missile batteries added, with the formation of the 1st Missile Battalion Chinese Army that would not be deactivated until 1997."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Second_Taiwan_Strait_Crisis

"Twelve long-range 203 mm (8.0 in) M115 howitzer artillery pieces and numerous[quantify] 155 mm howitzers were transferred from the U.S. Marine Corps to the Army of the Nationalist China. These were sent west to Kinmen Island to gain superiority in the artillery duel back and forth over the straits there."

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Ernie Lazar said:

The Building Democracy webpage no longer exists.  All my Dean-related files are still on Internet Archive (links provided in previous message reply to Michael Clark)

Ernie,

Thank you for clarifying this.

I have been staggered in the past by the amount of work you put into compiling these records.

What a monumental undertaking!

Steve Thomas

13 hours ago, Michael Clark said:

Hi Ernie,

Thanks for the reply.

As David noted, all of the links in your post return a 404 error, for some reason.

 

Michael,

The first part of Ernie's external weblink reference (http://www.buildingdemocracy.us/), yields this:

buildingdemocracy.us is almost here!

Upload your website to get started.

The next step in the reference brings the first 404 return:

http://www.buildingdemocracy.us/archive/

On Ernie's own site:

https://networks.h-net.org/system/files/contributed-files/lazar-finding-aid-new-01-26-15.pdf

there is this reference:

My FBI file collection was originally mailed in June 2013 to various universities (such as University of California—Berkeley) on a set of four dual-layer DVD’s and also uploaded onto the following websites:

Internet Archive: https://archive.org/details/lazarfoia?and[]=mediatype%3A%22collection%22and

Building Democracy: http://www.buildingdemocracy.us/archive/dox/lazar/index.htm

The Building Democracy weblink returns a 404 error.

Steve Thomas

On 10/9/2019 at 9:33 AM, Douglas Caddy said:

Previously announced speakers

Burt Griffin, former Warren Commission attorney who assisted in the investigation of Jack Ruby, along with Judge Brandon Birmingham who participated in the Ruby trial, will speak about their experiences. Judge Birmingham was the head of the Cold Case unit under Dallas District Attorney Craig Watkins and was responsible for discovering previously unknown JFK-related records, correspondence of former District Attorney Henry Wade, and other artifacts that had been stored in a 6-foot safe in a Dallas courthouse in 2007.

 

Will someone who is planning to attend this conference please ask Judge Birmingham why these records have not been digitized and made keyword searchable on the Internet?

Steve Thomas

On 10/16/2019 at 8:22 AM, John Butler said:

From the autopsy report:

• "Over the volar aspect of aspect of the left wrist there is a transverse 1 3 / 4 inch slightly raised white scar.  Volar means palm side of the wrist and is not visible in the photo."

• However, the same or similar scar can be seen on the right volar side of the wrist in this photo.  And, this is the problem.  There is no such scar described for the right wrist.  What is described for the left wrist is the following.  Which appears to be a suicide scar also.  Why two on one arm?

“Over the medial aspect mid-distal third of the left arm there is a 1 1 / 4 inch vertical scar with cross hatching.”

Medial aspect means the center or middle part.  The mid-distal third of the left arm means the middle of the lower part of the arm.  Up from the wrist and down from the elbow.  This is the area of the medial forelimb vein found generally only in humans.  It is the site of suicide attempts trying to cut this vein in a vertical fashion.  And, then horizontally to make sure this vein is cut. 

http://www.russianbooks.org/oswald/moscow2.htm

I also read what I thought was a pretty good synopsis of Oswald's time in the Far East by a man named Kevin Coogan in the Lobster Magazine:

Tokyo legend? Lee Harvey Oswald and Japan by Kevin Coogan

https://www.lobster-magazine.co.uk/free/lobster70/lob70-oswald-and-japan.pdf

Oswald's time in Taiwan seems to hinge on whether he actually went there, or stayed behind in a rear echelon unit.

(see pp 27 plus of the pdf document cited above).

Steve Thomas

1 hour ago, Joe Bauer said:

Did all of the security agencies in Dallas ever meet in one venue to discuss JFK's security?

 

Joe,

One of the most informative things I've read in a while is CD 852

https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=11249

DOD Bartimo Letter of 24 Apr 1964 with Attachments

Starting on about the third page or so of this document is a copy of

Army Regulation 195-10 which spells out how the Army was supposed to liaison with other agencies. It talks about the Army, Navy, Air Force and FBI, but interestingly enough, leaves out the Secret Service.

Basically Army Regulation 195-10 is a How to Manual for conducting investigations of armed forces personnel: Who's got responsibility, who's got control, how the information flows, etc.

Look at Paragraph (9)(c)(1)(a) on the bottom of Page 5 of this CD. It says how Army Commanders are supposed to establish policies to establish "effective liaison" with other agencies and specifically mentions the ATTU.

The idea was not to step on each other's toes, and establish contact with an individual that some other agency was working, e.g. informants. I think in CIA jargon, it was called the “third party” rule.

As I sit here, I don't know if the FBI or the ATTU has such a Regulation they were supposed to be operating under.

Steve Thomas

To Jim H,

Rather than trying to quote an earlier post of yours, here's a little something I noticed:

http://mcadams.posc.mu.edu/russ/testimony/bledsoe.htm

Mrs. BLEDSOE - “I said, "Well, what kind of work do you do? "Oh, I do electronics," he said, and I said, "Well, there is some good jobs because you are young, and you can get a good job a young man like you."
And then went on. Then something about him being in the Marines, and I said, "Well, that is wonderful. My son was in the Navy."

Mr. JENNER - When your son was in the Navy, did he have a duffelbag?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - No. Now, it was so long ago--it was--I don't know whether he did. I don't think he did. He didn't. He was an instructor at TI.
Mr. JENNER - Was he stationed here in Dallas?
Mrs. BLEDSOE - No, TI. Treasure Island.

I wondered about Oswald going from the YMCA in downtown Dallas to showing up on foot in OaK Cliff at Marsalis. I wonder if that was by accident.

I also looked up the USS Skagit. It's Captain (I forget his name right now ) transferred to a new ship in Hong Kong on October 15, 1958.

(Apropos of nothing I suppose).

Steve Thomas