Ian Lloyd

I don't like wasting time, energy and/or bandwidth!!!

Vanessa Loney, on 06 Apr 2015 - 9:13 PM, said: Vanessa, Good one! Btw, when I asked him where the ONI office was situated in Dallas in 1963, he said, "It was across the street (from the TSBD?), it was in the Postal building (the Terminal Annex Building had a post office in it !), it was in the building Kennedy was killed from ("killed from" meaning where the command center / observation center was located? -- maybe even Harry Holmes' upper floor office?) " But I digress, again. --Tommy Tommy, When he said "...it was the building Kennedy was killed from.", did you follow that up with anything like "Can you elaborate on that please?" or "I thought he was supposed to have been killed from the TSBD"??? If so (I presume you did, I certainly would have), what was his response? Ian, Thanks for asking. "[The ONI office] was across the street. It was in the Postal Building. It was in the building Kennedy was killed from." -- Robert D. Steel When he said that, my first thought was that he was confused on the location of the TSBD, or the location of the Main Post Office on North Ervay, or the route of the motorcade or something. But I didn't correct him or prompt him right away. I intuited that he'd said something very significant and I was simultaneously trying to formulate a good follow-up question and hoping that my silence while doing so would make him a little nervous and that he'd say some more interesting stuff on his own, and I didn't want to influence him on that. What I did say finally was, "The Postal Building (i.e., the Terminal Annex Building) was on the south side of Dealey Plaza." At that point he just stared at me rather blankly and muttered / almost whispered the word, "Yes" with a slight note of resignation in his voice. I don't want to sound overly dramatic here, but I do remember thinking that he looked like the proverbial "deer caught in the headlights." Perhaps I should have pressed him on what the heck he meant by, "[The ONI office] was in the building that Kennedy was killed from," but I didn't. I thought I'd touched a nerve; that he realized that he'd nearly "let the cat out of the bag big-time," and my intuition as a first-time interviewer told me that he'd told me something very significant, but something I didn't quite understand yet, and that he might volunteer something later in the interview that would help me to understand. I think my intuition told me that if I asked him to explain what he'd just said, that he would clam up. Maybe I was a lousy interviewer, but I feel I did the best that I could. [...] --Tommy Tommy, Thanks you for your considered response. I understand how it must have been when you heard that...Whilst I stated that I would have asked, in reality, i wonder if I would have since, as you say, I'd probably be considering whether he'd then just clam up if pushed, having realised that he'd just let something slip...

Vanessa Loney, on 06 Apr 2015 - 9:13 PM, said: Vanessa, Good one! Btw, when I asked him where the ONI office was situated in Dallas in 1963, he said, "It was across the street (from the TSBD?), it was in the Postal building (the Terminal Annex Building had a post office in it !), it was in the building Kennedy was killed from ("killed from" meaning where the command center / observation center was located? -- maybe even Harry Holmes' upper floor office?) " But I digress, again. --Tommy Tommy, When he said "...it was the building Kennedy was killed from.", did you follow that up with anything like "Can you elaborate on that please?" or "I thought he was supposed to have been killed from the TSBD"??? If so (I presume you did, I certainly would have), what was his response?

I would say that Baker dictated to Burnett who wrote down what he heard. I've been in police situations (in the UK) where that happens almost all the time and I really don't see any difference here; maybe the police think it's more efficient, garners a more truthful account, or whatever. Therefore, quite why the "...drinking a coke..." bit comes into it...well, IMO, it's rather suspicious (and let's not get hung up on the Coke or Dr. Pepper bit, I'm sure Baker didn't also ask, "Oh, by the way, what's that you're drinking there, is it a Coke or a Dr. Pepper? I'd like to make sure I get that bit right in my statement/testimony..."). Another interesting point (IMO) is that Shelley is recorded as a witness on Truly's statement!?!? Did the FBI go to the TSBD to get the statement from Truly? Did Shelley also make a statement that day? (I also wonder why Truly signed his twice?).

Here's hoping!!!... (I believe that it's Lovelady on the 6th floor, by the way, having discarded his shirt...)

Perish the thought, Tommy!

Is it correct grammar to use the salutation "Mr." and title "Esq." Together? (Just trying to lighten things up... ;-) )

Michael, With such qualifications, I'd be very interested to see any work you have done, or would do, on the "Prayer Man/Person" images (and, obviously, any others), as, I'm sure, so would many other members. It's great to have someone with such skill sets on the forum.

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Can frame captures as clear as the GIF be done of the last few frames?

Looking at that nice clear GIF that Chris has supplied, it does look like I was incorrect regarding Baker about to step up the kerb, though IMO, he probably did step up the kerb with his next step. Who's the cop seen in the background running down the extension towards the Grassy knoll? Does Baker momentarily turn his head to look down that way, possibly caught the movement in the corner of his eye and then, seeing it's a cop, carried on?

Superb GIF Chris, thanks.

A couple of thoughts on that: 1. Was he going to talk with a cop that was standing somewhere near the corner of the building before entering (which I think RP may have mentioned previously)? 2. Had he seen the emergency escape stairs at the side of the building on Houston as he rode toward the building and was checking those first since he may have thought that, if someone was shooting from the roof, they may have tried to escape from the building that way?

Actually, if you look closely at the shadows on the ground in the clip above, you can see them 'bend' as they fall onto the kerb; Baker's shadow can also be seen to 'bend' as he approaches the kerb and his leg appears to raise as if he's about to step up onto it.

I seem to recall noticing previously that right at the end of the full clip, it looks to me like Baker is raising his foot as if he's about to step onto the kerb (curb?).

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-3332512/Rose-Kennedy-talks-daughter-s-lobotomy-banning-crying-cursed-clan-weigh-children-week-recently-uncovered-interview.html

http://news.sky.com/story/1593408/woman-sues-govt-for-10m-over-jfk-film

Top left corner (looking at the front)?

Sandy, You know what the next question will be - you linked to regulations that were revised in 2013, what about the regulations in 1963?

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/-DzsSfXgUk3o/U6-NpFOR30I/AAAAAAAAQFc/H-pWWug0Y3w/s1600/Beckham+tri-collage.jpg

Ha! Good point Bob, overlooked entirely by me. As you can no doubt tell, I am no gun expert!...

Being merely one of the '..."educated" city folk...' (post #58), I'm wondering if it wouldn't have been easier to just grind off the extractor claw?

Here we go again, wheels within wheels???...

Thanks Mark. Yes, I'm pretty sure her middle name is/was (?) Elizabeth.

Did the HSCA (or, perhaps, the WC?) determine that the man in front of Lovelady was waving and it's his arm we are seeing in front of Lovelady?