David Andrews Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 46 minutes ago, Joe Bauer said: David...is this photo for real? F*Yeah, apparently. See Guardian page: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/jan/31/a-man-lies-dead-in-the-street-the-image-that-captures-the-wuhan-coronavirus-crisis We shouldn't be surprised. During the worldwide Spanish Flu epidemic of 1918, people dropped dead in the streets of US cities, bundled up in wool scarves instead of surgical masks. Boston, Philly, St. Paul, Minnesota -- all the places named in Chuck Berry songs. Bio-weapon, y'all say? That photo reminds me of 3rd Street and First Avenue in Manhattan. https://www.theguardian.com/world/live/2020/feb/03/coronavirus-live-updates-china-wuhan-outbreak-evacuations-flights-latest-news-death-toll-climbs-passing-sars Staff immediately began to clean the ground as the van drove away, disinfecting the streets where the body had lain. Edited February 3, 2020 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ray Mitcham Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 38 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said: Seriously Joe. You had to re-post the entire picture to write that? You are good at one thing Joe. Posting nonsense. I think you beat Joe by a country mile, Robert. The photo is automatically included when you use the quote action. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: Seriously Joe. You had to re-post the entire picture to write that? You are good at one thing Joe. Posting nonsense. Wow. Talk about "projection," Robert. You are quite the case study. Might I suggest an alternative explanation for the "facts" in your Plan A, B, and C conspiracy theory about Donald Trump? To wit, Donald Trump is a sociopathic POTUS who is guilty of multiple high crimes and misdemeanors against the United States-- including multiple counts of obstruction of justice and obstruction of Congress. Edited February 3, 2020 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 48 minutes ago, Kathy Beckett said: Oh my Goodness! So there was no Russiagate, and Mueller's report was cooked up,, and Trump* is going after Biden because Biden is the most corrupt? Nope. He is the one Trump* is most afraid of. Trump* is worse than Henry VIII, and he was an XXX. If beheading were still in vogue, head rolling would be almost a daily event in Washington. And the GOP lackeys are just laughable. Oh yes, and while we're at it, here's a little PS about Doug Caddy--". "Caddy, who was an active member of the Republican Party, did volunteer legal work for Richard Nixon. In March 1972 he had a meeting with John Dean. Over the next four months he performed a number of legal tasks connected with Nixon presidential campaign assigned to him by Dean's office. Caddy also did work for G. Gordon Liddy, the counsel for the finance committee of the Committee to Re-elect the President (CREEP). On the 17th June, 1972, Frank Sturgis, Virgilio Gonzalez, Eugenio Martinez, Bernard L. Barker and James W. McCord were arrested while in the Democratic Party headquarters in Watergate. Soon afterwards, E. Howard Hunt and G. Gordon Liddy contacted Caddy for help. Caddy arranged for another attorney, Joseph Rafferty, to meet him in the next morning in the courtroom. Later that day Caddy and Rafferty arranged to represent Sturgis, Gonzalez, Martinez, Barker, McCord, Hunt and Liddy." More at the link: https://spartacus-educational.com/JFKcaddyD.htm Trump, I'd bet , knows next to nothing about Watergate. Thanks Kathy. I like Mr. Wheeler’s line about Biden being an ‘incoherent unelectable criminal’. What does that make Trump? An electable crook I suppose. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted February 3, 2020 Share Posted February 3, 2020 (edited) Speaking of "incoherence"... 🤪 Edited February 3, 2020 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 Good luck Bernie in Iowa! Democratic Socialism vs Theocratic Fascism in November! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 From what I've pieced together, Robert was a conventional Republican who voted for The Bush's for President every time until he saw Trump make quick disposal of Jeb, then he started really researching the Bush's and learning things most of us have known for 20-30 years. It was a whole new life, a transformation where he came to question all he knew as true. His story is not unlike a lot of Trumpers though he previously had more political affiliation than most. Not to be outdone, and to make up for 30 years of lost time, Then he went through the obligatory cycle of endlessly searching conspiracy websites like one of them that was recently banned on Facebook, (I'm glad I can't remember it's name) and that completely lemming conservative website that implores that "we need 1000 Breitbarts!!!" and Robert has made his mission to be the embodiment of Breitbart to all of us, lucky us! All the while, dizzying his mind with endless genealogy and family connections, like the Bush family connection that he come out from under. His goal is to be the all knowing Guru of the true conspiracy-behind -conspiracy, tossing out millions of conspiratorial crumbs with no regard for accuracy and then just moving on to somewhere else and so consequently becoming a guru to only one. His endless trolling of Doug and insults to Joe could be a faint recognition of that fact. As to a change to this pathology, the adoption of Trump represents such a life changing event, it's opened up his mind to such a complete new world, and a new lifestyle with his companion computer.. It's like the first time someone got drunk or high, and discovered he liked it. He certainly doesn't want it to stop in 2020. It's pretty unlikely anything going to change for awhile. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) See article linked below. The Executive Office is now strengthened beyond the means available to Clinton and GWB. Unlike Andrew Johnson, the Congress-rescued Trump will not be denied office by the electorate. No urine-splashed Russian hotel room, or Ukrainian phone calls, can blacken his reputation as Jefferson and Hamilton once did Aaron Burr's. We have met, and exceeded, the fears that Hamilton and Madison claimed in The Federalist would never come to pass under our system: https://www.salon.com/2020/02/04/trump-will-be-acquitted-of-course-what-in-gods-name-will-he-do-next/ I can't wait for Trump's forthcoming campaign slogan: "Haters Gonna Hate..." Edited February 5, 2020 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted February 4, 2020 Share Posted February 4, 2020 15 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said: Look up George Tillman Bell. Sometimes indexed Tillson and also Telleman, depending on the agency. Sure. But that’s not my quote. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted February 4, 2020 Author Share Posted February 4, 2020 (edited) I would hope that my original thread here is more worthy than absolute nonsense. As I hope that the new fuller truth Trump assessment link I am listing in this post is also more worthy than nonsense. Anything is debatable I guess. However, I don't consider my concern ( hugely shared by millions of Americans ) regards the unprecedented angst, mistrust, and division in our society, which I feel Donald Trump has fed and increased in spades to dangerously irresponsible degrees, as nonsense. And even more importantly the ferocious and real U.S. Constitution balance of power battle going on right now between Trump and the Congress ( and which is being lost by Congress more so than any time in their history) and which if lost anymore, could allow a President to get away with things even more law and constitution violating than Trump and his power backers already have. My other great concern is how 80% of our major main stream national broadcast and print media ( of course Fox News but also ABC, CBS, NBC TV and their internet and radio affiliates, etc ) has imo refused to report Trump's balance of power attacking behavior in anything close to it's true potentially dangerous magnitude and effect to our entire self-governing and constitution protected liberty way of life. As well as Trump's incessant and shockingly crude, insulting and bully type personal behavior, words and actions which are outrageously unpresidential and dispiriting to the entire nation. And finally ... his seemingly strongly documented amoral personal behavior and corrupt business history before his presidency. Why is most of our national media in all these areas downplaying these dark truth's about Trump and covering for this guy! I believe it's simply because the majority ownership of these news corporations are of the same wealthiest 1% class and priority mind set as Trump. And they need him to protect, promote and increase their own personal wealth and control interests over this status quo. And add on to this Trump national media truth blackout, many millions of daily talk radio listeners who are inundated with 24/7 pro-Trump/liberal bashing propaganda by as many as 12 worked up and super highly paid right wing anger barkers every day! Limbaugh, Hannity, Mark Levin, Michael Savage... take your pick. This hugely financed angry toned liberal bashing super right wing radio political propaganda machine has for decades daily shaped the political mind sets of tens of millions of Americans way more than most even realize. It's been a very successful operation. However, we do have "a few" non-right wing people in our society who have the education, solid credential journalistic background experience and skills and national pulpit position and media exposure gravitas and who feel tremendous personal responsibility to publicly report what they have learned in their extensive and well documented investigative research into Donald Trump. And to share that which they feel is so concerning regarding this dark but true Donald J. Trump reality. Hence, their talks, books and interviews ( which can't compare in impact to daily nationwide right wing and Trump promoting radio broadcasts ) such as the one or two I am posting. Obviously, I share these investigative journalist's concerns regards Trump, including what I see as most Americans being kept in the dark or diverted from the full darker Trump truth by most of our main stream media. Hence the following link which I feel is another important piece of the Trump Truth effort imo. 37:38NOW PLAYING Author calls Trump "greatest con artist in the history of the world" 468K views2 years ago Excerpts of a lecture by David Cay Johnston, author of the bestselling book, "The Making of Donald Trump." Edited February 5, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 (edited) Joe, You nailed it. What amazes me is that 35-50% of Americans, apparently, still approve of Donald Trump-- the "racist, con man, and cheat" (in the words of his own former fixer) who has told Americans over 16,000 well-documented lies during the past three years since his Inauguration. Obviously, many people desperately need their illusions-- something that is thematic in the works of Henrik Ibsen. The situation with Trump reminds me of a quote from H.L. Mencken, "The men the American people admire most extravagantly are the most daring l-i-a-r-s; the men they detest most violently are those who try to tell them the truth." Edited February 5, 2020 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 5, 2020 Share Posted February 5, 2020 HL Mencken: “As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron.“ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted February 6, 2020 Share Posted February 6, 2020 On 2/3/2020 at 5:22 PM, Cliff Varnell said: Good luck Bernie in Iowa! Democratic Socialism vs Theocratic Fascism in November! Iowa was a crushing disappointment. The turnout of younger voters ticked up 3% -- we needed many times that. I despair over Bernie's prospects. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted February 6, 2020 Author Share Posted February 6, 2020 21 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said: HL Mencken: “As democracy is perfected, the office of the President represents, more and more closely, the inner soul of the people. On some great and glorious day, the plain folks of the land will reach their heart’s desire at last, and the White House will be occupied by a downright fool and a complete narcissistic moron.“ Amazingly prescient. On one of the TV news broadcasts in Iowa a reporter questioned a women who says she voted for Donald Trump in 2016 and will again in 2020. She stated she is on Social Security disability. One assumes she gets by mostly on this "socialistic" program. The reporter mentioned to the Trump voter that Trump wants to cut SS Disability and make it harder to get. The woman's expression went blank for a second or two and then she stated she was supporting Trump because he is good for the economy. ? Now that makes sense doesn't it? Vote for someone who is publicly stating he wants to lower your own main source of living income. Typical middle class and lower Trump voting mentality. Voting against your own self interest. No, there is a deeper motivation with less than rich American voters in supporting Trump. One they will not publicly claim or announce. Mainly, it's about race. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted February 7, 2020 Share Posted February 7, 2020 Mencken wrote it in July, 1920, and may have been contemplating Warren G. Harding's candidacy that year. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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