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A New Confederacy: Trump and the Republicans have already seceded

Now they’re preparing to fight a new civil war. In fact, they're already doing it in all but name

By Lucian K. Truscott IV October 9, 2021

https://www.salon.com/2021/10/09/a-new-confederacy-and-the-have-already-seceded/

 

“You know which ones they are:

Nineteen states have enacted 33 laws that make it harder for people to vote

Nineteen states have enacted a total of 106 new laws restricting a woman's right to choose to have an abortion,

Twelve states have refused to expand Medicaid coverage under the Affordable Care Act, leaving as many as two million people without health insurance

All of the states that refused Medicaid expansion and have passed restrictions on voting and abortion are controlled by the Republican Party. Many of those same states have also passed bans on mask and vaccine mandates, and nearly all of them have endured more cases per capita of COVID-19, more hospitalizations and more deaths from the virus. In effect, without any states (yet) seceding from the Union, we already live in two Americas.”

“This is what I mean when I say that Republicans have already seceded. They're a white party and they're forming a white country with white laws and white companies and white jobs where white votes count and others don't. They can live in the states that comprise that country, but they can't survive there without our money. It was the same way with the South before the Civil War. They lived in their states with slavery, but they couldn't survive without the economy of the North, so they started a war. They never intended to "secede." They intended to win, and run the new country, which would be the South writ large, with slave-owners in power and slavery everywhere.”

“Democrats may or may not "win" in 2022 and 2024, but the elections are already over. Republicans have declared that only their votes count. Unless we get together and stay together and use our numbers to protect our democracy, we will end up living in their fascist country ruled by their dictator.”

Steve Thomas

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12 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Ben,

     I must confess that you have an unusual ability to completely ignore rebuttals and refutations of your oft-repeated talking points-- e.g., regarding the conflicting FBI assessments about January 6th, Brian Sicknick's anomalous death, etc.  So, I won't repeat them. 

     Billionaire Phillip Anschutz's right wing propaganda mouthpiece, The Washington Examiner, has aggressively promoted the narrative that the January 6th insurrection was, 1) not coordinated by Trump, Bannon, Roger Stone, et.al., and 2) was not an insurrection.  

     IMO, a subscription to the Washington Examiner could be useful in the event of a future pandemic-related toilet paper shortage.

     As for the planning of Trump's January 6th insurrection, hopefully, more information will be uncovered by the Congressional investigation-- although Trump is aggressively stonewalling the subpoenas currently.

      We know that Steve Bannon has stated publicly that he was involved in planning the January 6th insurrection with Trump, himself. 

      And FBI Director Christopher Wray testified to Congress in March that there was evidence that the January 6th attack on Congress was coordinated by "die hard members of the Trump attack force."

      At the very least, the FBI has given us mixed messages about the insurrection.

      See, for example...

Is the FBI telling us the truth about the Jan. 6 coup attempt? Because it doesn't feel that way

Reports from FBI and DHS suggest a dangerous rift in law enforcement over the Jan. 6 coup plot. We need the truth

https://www.salon.com/2021/08/26/is-the-fbi-telling-us-the-truth-about-the-jan-6-coup-attempt-because-it-doesnt-feel-that-way/

 

Addendum

Sicknick death ruled 'natural' but experts say stress can set off strokes

https://www.cnn.com/2021/04/20/health/sicknick-death-natural-strokes/index.html

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On 10/9/2021 at 8:30 PM, Steve Thomas said:

Your "scrum" came and xxxx on my Capitol. and I'm mad as hell about that.

Steve Thomas

Steve-

Your assessment may be correct. 

And I am just one small citizen here, and what I say will have zero impact on anything. 

But here goes: One very important reason to study the JFKA is to learn how corporate media and government work together to manipulate public opinion after  real or fabricated events. 

Maybe 9/11 was a terrorist attack, as depicted. It was then leveraged by government-media to get the US into two fantastically expensive and counterproductive wars, and kill a couple million people. 

In the case of the JFKA, we see how public opinion was shaped, perhaps even before, and very much after the JFKA. 

For sake of argument, let us assume LHO was a lone gunman---that does not change the heavy PR-fake-news-manipulation effort that went into ensuring that was your point of view. Plus a lot of hints that maybe the commies were behind it.  (That is still going on.)

That is what is happening on the 1/6 scrum. The public is being manipulated, and hysteria is being fanned. The 1/6 committee is political theater. We were told racist Trump supporters murdered Brian Sicknick by bludgeoning him in the head with a fire extinguisher, and that the scrum was armed and organized---and that what happened is a threat to our nation.

Here is the woman who stole Nancy Pelosi's laptop, a Riley June Williams: 

She helpfully livestreamed her theft:

 

 

Then, to add to the mix, she live-texted about it. Yes, she took "Nancy Polesis" laptop. 

 

 

Assuming Riley June Williams is a real person, and not a provocateur or actress....does she strike you as a threat the Republic?

The Deep State, which can tax you at will, enter in foreign wars on behalf of multinationals at will, controls the media, and assassinates US presidents...wants you to be afraid of Riley June Williams. Why?

https://www.justice.gov/usao-dc/capitol-breach-cases

One sure gets a different impression of the 1/6 event when reading primary materials. 

 

Add on, from the "statement of facts":

"W1 (an informant) stated that WILLIAMS intended to send the computer device to a friend in Russia, who then planned to sell the device to SVR, Russia’s foreign intelligence service."

So, Russia gets worked into the story. 

Maybe this strikes one as a little too pat. 

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It's painful to count the delusory ideas in this article, and contemplate that this is the modern American electorate:

https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-supporters-at-iowa-rally-see-civil-war-coming-say-he-will-save-the-world/ar-AAPjK24?li=BBnbfcL

Trump Supporters at Iowa Rally See 'Civil War Coming,' Say He Will 'Save the World'

Let's not forget that our last civil war was birthed of intransigence and stupidity.

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When you look up the word demagogue in the dictionary, this is what you find:

Tom Boggioni October 10, 2021

https://www.rawstory.com/donald-trump-election-fraud/

"Speaking to the rabidly pro-Trump crowd in Des Moines, Trump blurted, "I'm telling you the single biggest issue, as bad as the border is and it's horrible, horrible what they're doing, they're destroying our country — but as bad as that is, the single biggest issue — the issue that gets the most pull, the most respect, the biggest cheers — is talking about the election fraud of the 2020 presidential election.""

The biggest issue in our country is the one that gets the biggest cheers.

Steve Thomas

 

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In his statement on Friday, Trump declared:

Big Michigan Rally coming up on Oct. 12th, on the Capitol steps in Lansing, where Patriots will demand a Forensic Audit of the 2020 Presidential Election Scam. The Voter Fraud is beyond what anyone can believe. Anyone who cares about our Great Country should attend, because unless we look to the past and fix what happened, we won't have a future or a Country.
 In Michigan of all places? Where all those armed guys took over the State Capitol and threatened to kidnap and kill the Governor?
That's a recipe for disaster.
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8 hours ago, Steve Thomas said:

In his statement on Friday, Trump declared:

Big Michigan Rally coming up on Oct. 12th, on the Capitol steps in Lansing, where Patriots will demand a Forensic Audit of the 2020 Presidential Election Scam. The Voter Fraud is beyond what anyone can believe. Anyone who cares about our Great Country should attend, because unless we look to the past and fix what happened, we won't have a future or a Country.
 In Michigan of all places? Where all those armed guys took over the State Capitol and threatened to kidnap and kill the Governor?
That's a recipe for disaster.
Steve Thomas

Steve T: Read up on who helped organize and finance the Michigan kidnappers. 

Buzzfeed:

"The government has documented at least 12 confidential informants who assisted the sprawling investigation [of the Michigan kidnap plot]. The trove of evidence they helped gather provides an unprecedented view into American extremism, laying out in often stunning detail the ways that anti-government groups network with each other and, in some cases, discuss violent actions.

An examination of the case by BuzzFeed News also reveals that some of those informants, acting under the direction of the FBI, played a far larger role than has previously been reported. Working in secret, they did more than just passively observe and report on the actions of the suspects. Instead, they had a hand in nearly every aspect of the alleged plot, starting with its inception. The extent of their involvement raises questions as to whether there would have even been a conspiracy without them.

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/michigan-kidnapping-gretchen-whitmer-fbi-informant

For the record, yes, I oppose all forms of violence, and support only peaceful reform through voting and democratic processes. 

A lot of people have concluded there would have been no "kidnap plot" without federal  agent involvement. 

 

 

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'Beyond our current worst nightmares': Mental health experts warn about the likely effects of a Trump comeback

by Chauncey Devega, Salon October 11, 2021

https://www.rawstory.com/trump-2024-2655269936/

“In a recent essay, author and pastor John Pavlovitz addresses this:

[F]or the first time in America's history the latent ugliness in people was revealed and validated and celebrated by a sitting president — it was officially normalized. And what we're experiencing now; this staggering, insensitive posturing in the face of so many people's suffering, is the late-ripening fruit of something that has been set into the bedrock of half our nation. It is the malicious entitlement that MAGA was designed to nurture from the beginning....
This quickly metastasizing moral cancer is something we've never experienced on this level in our lifetimes and it's something we're going to have to reckon with regardless of the political outcomes of the next four years. If the former president somehow takes that office again, these stories will surely grow exponentially more violent and more commonplace, but either way, the ugliness is here now.
The Trump Effect on America, is that once reasonable, rational human beings whose prejudices, fears, and phobias were all bound by some baseline decorum and common courtesy that kept them from intentionally harming others — have been empowered to revel in the worst of themselves. They believe cruelty is their birthright.

Dr. David Reiss is a psychiatrist, expert in mental fitness evaluations and contributor to "The Dangerous Case of Donald Trump."

You asked: What do I think will happen to America if Trump runs for office and wins in 2024?

In my opinion, the even more frightening question is this: "What would it mean had happened to the American people and American society if Trump were returned to office in 2024?"”

 

Steve Thomas

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The Far-Right John Birch Society Wants Anti-Mask Protests to Fuel Its Comeback

“The John Birch Society used to boost segregation. Now it’s back to attack schools over mask mandates.”

by Kelly Weill Oct. 11, 2021

https://www.thedailybeast.com/far-right-john-birch-society-wants-anti-mask-protests-to-fuel-its-comeback?ref=home

“On a sunny Saturday in a Knoxville, Tennessee park, a man with a microphone told a crowd of parents to bar entry to their children’s schools.

“Starting Monday morning and until this is over, we need to bring Knox County schools to a screeching halt,” he said to applause. He called on parents, students, and staff to participate. “We have a moral obligation to our children’s future. Block the entrance to the school with your car. That’s my suggestion. Block the entrance to the drive—don’t even let a bus in your schools. If you can be that bold in your groups, do it.”

The event, “Parents In The Park” was billed as a meet-up for parents who objected to a mask mandate in Knox County schools. But the Sept. 26 gathering was more than just concerned caregivers. It was organized and hosted by the John Birch Society (JBS)…”


Oh joy.

Steve Thomas


 

 

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