Douglas Caddy Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Prosecutors secure first guilty plea in Capitol riot cases (aol.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Justice Department sues Trump ally Roger Stone, alleging millions in unpaid taxes (nbcnews.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted April 16, 2021 Share Posted April 16, 2021 Last Witness to President Abraham Lincoln Assassination I've Got A Secret - YouTube Viewer comments: magine had he lived just 7 years longer, he'd have lived through JFK's assassination as well. That would've been insane. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said: Justice Department sues Trump ally Roger Stone, alleging millions in unpaid taxes (nbcnews.com) chance-card-vintage-monopoly-go-directly-to-jail-design-turnpike.jpg (600×428) (fineartamerica.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 14 hours ago, Jeff Carter said: Bob, the Cold War ended in 1991. Even if some apparatchiks in the State Dept and NATO hdq feel compelled to start it all up again, the rest of us don't have to go along. Chill out. What are you talking about? Are you serious Jeff? Novichok anyone? There's more FSB/SVR/GRU in the states now than there ever were KGB etc during the cold war. When a "democratically elected" leader of a country seizes control over the military, judicial, intelligence and law enforcement agencies of their country what do YOU call that Jeff? Fascists maybe? Your uninterrupted, slavish devotion to Putin and the Russian Federation without questioning any of their actions or policies is ridiculous. Bot-like. I've never defended the shenanigans the US has engaged in to the extent you do the Russ-Fed. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 America First Caucus Policy Platform pages 1 - 7 https://punchbowl.news/wp-content/uploads/America-First-Caucus-Policy-Platform-FINAL-2.pdf If you ever wanted to know what xenophobia means, read this document. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 6 hours ago, Steve Thomas said: America First Caucus Policy Platform pages 1 - 7 https://punchbowl.news/wp-content/uploads/America-First-Caucus-Policy-Platform-FINAL-2.pdf If you ever wanted to know what xenophobia means, read this document. Steve Thomas More evidence that the Trump GOP is a fascist party predicated mainly on white identity politics. Us vs. Them. They can't very well get elected on the basis of their real agenda-- cutting taxes for billionaires and de-regulating corporate polluters and profiteers. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 2 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: More evidence that the Trump GOP is a fascist party predicated mainly on white identity politics. Us vs. Them. They can't very well get elected on the basis of their real agenda-- cutting taxes for billionaires and de-regulating corporate polluters and profiteers. I think McCarthy agrees with you. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted April 17, 2021 Share Posted April 17, 2021 1 hour ago, Bob Ness said: I think McCarthy agrees with you. Yikes! McCarthy agrees with me? Either he's improving or I'm declining with age... 🤥 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Freedom of speech, freedom of the press to report? "I don't care". Intimidation. Scary. Police in Minnesota round up journalists covering protest, force them on the ground and take pictures of their faces (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) Jim Di has never been one for nuance, grey areas or both sides of a story and at least use to push his narrative like inbox boner pills. How nice it must be to be so certain! Jim said: Those nutty neo Nazis we backed in Ukraine are about to light tinder to a conflagration they will lose in spades. Yes Jim and Ollie Stone, like Putin have been warning us about a fascist takeover for about 6 years. But what happened? The Ukranian people overwhelmingly elected a comedian no less, and overturned over 80% of their parliament. You got to admit, that sounds pretty cool! It would never happen here. But of course it's not the same. It sounds like Jim's chomping at the bit for a bloody fascist take over in Ukraine just so he could say that him and Ollie Stone after so many years, actually turned out to be right. Who can say if that is inevitable, but 6 years without the worst is 6 years without the worst! Jeff is generally more nuanced and is very astute about issues such as climate change and the covid pandemic. My criticism of both of them on this issue is this overwhelming desire to see as the devil incarnate in everything the U.S. does. Do we have to get sucked into the this super hero and super villain thing? U.S. economic imperialism is the next logical extension of exploitation following the complete rape of British colonialism, with a caveat that the U.S. have developed a much wider means of persuasion and coercion at their disposal, so there's a greater variety of abuses. Because after all, who has ruled the world yet who didn't utilize the means at their disposal? But of course, even though the U.S.safety net, though inadequate is much greater than Russia, somehow even an atrocious dictator with a greatly underachieving failed economy. (sorry to get economic with you guys, but to the vast majority of people, that does matter!) somehow comes out on top purely out of leftist rhetoric alone, with no regard for the working reality. Anybody whose followed Trump at all knows he's continually in debt making massive payments and is about to face payments in the hundreds of millions. But when explained the possibility of shady debts to Russian oligarchs, why would that be so hard to believe? And then holding up the Mueller report as some sort of witch hunt that lead to exoneration is just another "oh duh", moment for the Trumpies that Jim and Jeff have joined the ranks and count themselves part of, when in reality the report never delved into the true motive. As with every thing else with Trump, his emoluments violations, everything of course gets down to money and finance. And we find out at the end they never even investigated Trump's finances!. But this of course is where Jim and Jeff's investigative prowess miraculously falls off a cliff at what I can only assume is a complete lack of financial literacy. I've tried to appeal by using just logic on a very basic level as far as the computer hacking. As far as the extent of the damage that the U.S.could be claiming by Russian hacks, who really knows for sure? Certainly not the U.S. But that doesn't obscure the question, why wouldn't Russia hack us? I'm sure we hack them. It's the best kind of warfare, it's more abstract to every day people than dropping bombs. They can do a lot of damage relatively cheaply, with relative impunity. They'd be a fool not to do it. But somehow Putin's earned some sort of moral bona fides, that he would never stoop so low? I don't know if you guys are just stuck in a viewpoint that if you give just the slightest credence to any of these points, your argument starts quickly eroding away, and soon becomes indefensible, which is actually true, and I at least give you credit for realizing that. Edited April 18, 2021 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Bacon Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 8 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said: It sounds like Jim's chomping at the bit for a bloody fascist take over in Ukraine I know it's beside the point, but it's a pet peeve of mine. It drives me nuts! The phrase is "champing at the bit" not chomping at the bit. There, I've said it.🙂 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 I know Paul, I was just trying to keep it somewhat informal. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 (edited) Trump has always been enthusiastically willing to take money from anyone, no matter how corrupt. Gotta deal with organized crime to get his hotels and casino's built? Hey, no problem. Trump actually said on a Dave Letterman TV show appearance "let me tell you...some of those people ( organized crime) happen to be very nice people." !!! If journalist butchering Saudis are willing to help him and Jared out financially ( remember the Saudi threat of blockading Quatar which resulted in a Quatar funded Canadian company's 666 5th Avenue billion dollar boondoggle bailout) then Trump says (regarding the suspected Saudi prince) he told me he didn't do it, that's good enough for me. Nice guy. Drug cartels and Russian organized crime figures buying up his condos and Florida junk house property and paying 200% of their true market value ( $100 million for the Florida junker ) and then re-selling these often at a loss. Money laundering do you think? Hey, no problem. Pardoning illegal foreign money deal perps Manafort and Michael Flynn and charity robbing Sloppy Steve Bannon? Hey, no problem? Getting hundreds of millions in loans from the most money laundering corrupt bank in history " Deutsche Bank " despite horrible bankruptcy debt and credit payment record... hey, no problem. This guy would make a deal with the devil if it made him enough money. The guy is first and foremost ... a money obsessed crook! A totally amoral, Roy Cohn inspired/ Hitler speech and "Power Of Positive Thinking" book educated crook. Smarter than Bernie Madoff though. Edited April 22, 2021 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schwartz Posted April 18, 2021 Share Posted April 18, 2021 Joe, good note. And there was Trump University where fatboy was convicted of defrauding the students and was ordered (by a Judge) to pay back $25M to the students he defrauded . 60 minutes did a piece on Trump University on how he defrauded the students. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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