JFK Revisited: Through The Looking Glass

[Ron Bulman]

7 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

In the statements to Steadman and to Miller, Perry is unequivocal.

It was an entrance wound. 

I thought he was pretty emphatic in the press conference, his initial impression, an hour and a half or less after saw it.  Didn't he say, in his initial statement, and twice more under questioning it was an entrance wound?  Three times in a few minutes?

He knew what he saw.  He was an experienced trauma surgeon in one of the top 10 emergency rooms in the country.

I don't get how anyone could not understand this.

Steadman and Miller as well as Gochenauer and Moore are icing on the cake.  Slam, bang, dunk!

[James DiEugenio]

What the Warren Commission did here is that they got Perry to back up, and BTW you should read what Dulles says about this in the volumes. 

And they simply ignored witnesses to the back of the head issue e. g. Hill, Sibert and O'Neil.

Specter was really systematic about this.

One of the best parts of Wecht's new book is when he goes down the elevator with Specter after a debate.  When they get to the bottom, he asks Specter something like: Do you really believe that stuff you spout?

Specter did not reply.

[Jeremy Bojczuk]

James DiEugenio writes:

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Does this mean Roe bought a domain name and the cyber space just for the purpose of filing these cockeyed and dishonest reports on Oliver Stone's film?  Sure looks that way.

It's worse than that. He hasn't even bought his own domain name. He is using a subdomain of a domain name belonging to Wix, a DIY website provider: https://steveroeconsulting.wixsite.com/. Wix offer these subdomains free of charge, with a small annual fee for hosting the website.

Other companies, such as Wordpress, offer the same thing (Wordpress's software is vastly better than Wix's). This sort of arrangement isn't aimed at businesses, but at people who want to get a hobby website up and running as cheaply as possible.

No reputable business would sign up for this sort of scheme. It looks amateurish. You can get your own .com domain name for just a few dollars a year, and you'll look far more professional.

The use of the word 'consulting' does give it an air of authority, though, doesn't it? You can imagine the Chief Executive Consultant stepping out of the elevator on the 73rd floor of Steve Roe Consulting Towers, barking orders to an open-plan office full of deferential Steve Roe Consulting employees, as his sharp-suited professional minders escort him to his penthouse suite so that he can get stuck into some more high-powered consulting.

[W. Tracy Parnell]

"JFK: Destiny Betrayed" Misleads on Israel and Nuclear Weapons (onthetrailofdelusion.com)

[James DiEugenio]

Thanks for that Jeremy. 

It seems like that confirms it. 

That is what he did, and he decided to do it on the cheap since he knew it was really a shell.  The word "Consulting" was attached to  add to the camouflaging of that shell.

And then comes the sock puppetry with that Andrew Jackson phony name at Quora.

Sometimes it is hard to wrap your head around the lengths these people  will go to in order to deny what happened to JFK.

 

Edited March 25, 2022 by James DiEugenio

[Micah Mileto]

On 3/23/2022 at 3:15 PM, James DiEugenio said:

Micah:

Miller's meeting with Perry was alone.  And that is what Perry told him. 

What is in The Parkland Doctors, that happened years before Moore encountered Jim.

So now you have four independent witnesses : The Parkland Doctors witness, McClelland; the nurse who talked to Perry the next day;  Steadman's notes which came from Perry himself; and then Miller much later.

As far as I can see, none of those four had anything to do with Moore.

I mean really, how many independent witnesses do you need? 

Perry changed his story.  And he did so under pressure. Period.

And it looks like Steve Roe has donned disguises in  order to create a disinfo machine.  Has anyone been able to find any kind of legitimate enterprise for steveroeconsulting?  Is it architecture? Is it accounting?  Is it commercial real estate?  It is financing stock purchases?  

 Everyone search for what it is.  Because I have found nothing but JFK stuff.  And look at Quora, that Andrew Jackson alias sure looks like roe.

Sockpuppetry.

 

So both James Gochenaur via Elmer Moore and Dr. Donald Miller via Perry corroborate the idea that Perry was warned right after his first press conference, to stop calling the throat wound a bullet entrance? Sorry, it just wasn't totally clear in the film

[Micah Mileto]

On 3/14/2022 at 7:51 AM, W. Tracy Parnell said:

"JFK: Destiny Betrayed" Misleads on Oswald's Income (onthetrailofdelusion.com)

 

Doug Horne Replies: On Oswald’s Earnings

[James DiEugenio]

5 hours ago, Micah Mileto said:

So both James Gochenaur via Elmer Moore and Dr. Donald Miller via Perry corroborate the idea that Perry was warned right after his first press conference, to stop calling the throat wound a bullet entrance? Sorry, it just wasn't totally clear in the film

I don't think I said that Micah.

What I said was that Perry told Miller one on one, privately that it was an entrance wound, undoubtedly an entrance.

Steadman's notes are from the first week where Perry is definite also.

 

 

[Benjamin Cole]

1 hour ago, Micah Mileto said:

Doug Horne Replies: On Oswald’s Earnings

Great stuff.

Query for Marine vets out there: In 1959, normal practice, did Marines receive weekly, biweekly, or monthly paper checks for wages? 

 

 

[Bob Ness]

22 hours ago, Jeremy Bojczuk said:

He is using a subdomain of a domain name belonging to Wix, a DIY website provider: https://steveroeconsulting.wixsite.com/. Wix offer these subdomains free of charge, with a small annual fee for hosting the website.

Other companies, such as Wordpress, offer the same thing (Wordpress's software is vastly better than Wix's).

No reputable business would sign up for this sort of scheme. It looks amateurish. You can get your own .com domain name for just a few dollars a year, and you'll look far more professional.

Haha yeah that's not exactly true any more. I rarely recommend small businesses or blogs use WP, Joomla or any of those php/MySql based CMSs anymore as Wix and Squarespace have upped their game quite a bit. Most people can't afford to have me under the hood every month fixing hacked plug ins or replacing unsupported ones (even the premium plug ins are touch and go) so the web builders have a place. That said it sounds like he's using a free version of Wix. OMG.

Edited March 26, 2022 by Bob Ness

[James DiEugenio]

A free version of Wix?

Talk about cheap.

Its really not that expensive.  We have Joomla and its not a high fee. 

So he must have just been planning on doing a brief assault but did not know the film had this long of a window.  Which is another topic I will be addressing since its going to be even longer than anyone thought.

 

PS Ben is on to something above.

 

Edited March 27, 2022 by James DiEugenio

[James DiEugenio]

I would like to ask my question again: has anyone found any instance in which roeconsulting has been noted in any kind of function besides the JFK case?

Because I have not.  In other words, it is simply a made up moniker that is meant to give some kind of prior weight to nothing more than an edifice from which to smear JFK Revisited. 

And now the mythological roeconsulting says that he will do the same with the JFK:Destiny Betrayed version. Forgetting that he slipped on three consecutive banana peels to start the roeconsulting thing off. Here they are:

1. That maybe Elmer Lee Todd's initials really were on CE 399. 

Complete crud.  In addition to John Hunt's work, we had two witnesses on this matter.

2. That somehow the ARRB had verified the chain of custody of CE 399.

An out and out howler. Not possible.  https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-impossible-one-day-journey-of-ce-399

BTW, in the film, I advised Oliver not to deal with any kind of trajectory analysis, that is the SBT.  Instead focus on the negligible  loss of weight and the chain of custody of CE 399.  David Mamet got in touch with Oliver prior to our meeting him and commented on that issue. He said words to the effect, a bullet could do that much damage and emerge like that? Nope. I was part of a pistol team. But the work we present of Hunt, Thompson and Aguilar will now spell the end of any objective person  taking CE 399 seriously. It would be laughed out of court.

3. Roeconsulting was preposterous on Latona.  Anyone who reads his testimony will see that Latona did everything to find any prints of value that night.  He broke down the rifle into parts, and he then brought in his own photographer.  They tried sidelighting, they tried highlighting, they tried everything. No go. But further, Latona was the number one authority in the field.  He wrote a pamphlet that nearly every police department in the country used for fingerprint analysis.  Bob Tanenbaum told me that, as a DA, you felt lucky to get him at trial, because every DA wanted him.  What PBS and the late Mike Sullivan did with Latona was a disgrace, as exposed by Pat Speer and Johnny Cairns.  But that is how fatal he is to the official story.  

I stopped reading roeconsulting after these three Soupy Sales custard pies.  The idea that any business would pay money for kind of work  is ridiculous. The truth is that Oliver Stone is bringing the facts of the ARRB to a wide audience, all over the world, exposing this new calculus to millions. And roeconsulting doesn't like it because he has been misleading people for years. He is now exposed.

And BTW, Oliver is not done.  More ahead.

 

Edited March 28, 2022 by James DiEugenio

[Sean Coleman]

1 hour ago, James DiEugenio said:

I would like to ask my question again: has anyone found any instance in which roeconsulting has been noted in any kind of function besides the JFK case?

Because I have not.  In other words, it is simply a made up moniker that is meant to give some kind of prior weight to nothing more than an edifice from which to smear JFK Revisited. 

And now the mythological roeconsulting says that he will do the same with the JFK:Destiny Betrayed version. Forgetting that he slipped on three consecutive banana peels to start the roeconsulting thing off. Here they are:

1. That maybe Elmer Lee Todd's initials really were on CE 399. 

Complete crud.  In addition John Hunt's work, we had two witnesses on this matter.

2. That somehow the ARRB had verified the chain of custody of CE 399.

An out and out howler. Not possible.  https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-impossible-one-day-journey-of-ce-399

BTW, in the film, I advised Oliver not to deal with any kind of trajectory analysis, that is the SBT.  Instead focus on the negligible  loss of weight and the chain of custody.  David Mamet got in touch with Oliver prior to our meeting him and commented on that issue. He said words to the effect, a bullet could do that much damage and emerge like that? Nope. I was part of a pistol team. But the work we present of Hunt, Thompson and Aguilar will now spell the end of any objective person  taking CE 399 seriously. It would be laughed out of court.

3. Roeconsulting was preposterous on Latona.  Anyone who reads his testimony will see that Latona did everything to find any prints of value that night.  He broke down the rifle into parts, and he then brought in his own photographer.  They tried sidelighting, they tried highlighting, they tried everything. No go. But further, Latona was the number one authority in the field.  He wrote a pamphlet that nearly every police department in the country used for fingerprint analysis.  Bob Tanenbaum told me that, as a DA, you felt lucky to get him at trial, because every DA wanted him.  What PBS and the late Mike Sullivan did with Latona was a disgrace, as exposed by Pat Speer and Johnny Cairns.  But that is how fatal he is to the official story.  

I stopped reading roeconsulting after these three Soupy Sales custard pies.  The idea that any business would pay money for kind of work  is ridiculous. The truth is that Oliver Stone is bringing the facts of the ARRB to a wide audience, all over the world, exposing this new calculus to millions. And roeconsulting doesn't like it because he has been misleading people for years. He is now exposed.

And BTW, Oliver is not done.  More ahead.

 

[James DiEugenio]

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[Jeremy Bojczuk]

I think I've solved the mystery. His full name is double-barrelled: Steve Roe-Consulting. He just goes by Steve Roe for convenience. That's my theory, and until someone shows otherwise, I'm sticking with it.

Isn't Mr Roe-Consulting a member of this forum? He certainly used to be. Why did he sign up, if not to participate in debates about the ins and outs of the JFK assassination? Why isn't he here, putting forward his point of view and defending it from criticism?

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Nerd corner:

Bob is correct to say that Wix now offer a better (or at least less awful) product than they used to. These days, a Wix website probably isn't a bad choice for a small business that wants to get online cheaply.

But any reputable business would at least spend a few dollars to buy its own domain name, unlike Mr Roe-Consulting. Using Wix's free service is fine for amateurs (that's its purpose), but for a business it wouldn't give a good impression. Likewise, using the word 'consulting' wouldn't give a good impression if you didn't actually run a consulting business, or if Consulting wasn't part of your surname.

Bob is also correct to warn about using Wordpress plug-ins (and possibly Joomla plug-ins too, but I'm not familiar with that CMS). Plug-ins (additions to the basic software that provide specific extra features) are useful and easy to install, but it's also easy to get carried away and add them just for the hell of it. Wordpress sites have a reputation for getting hacked, and that's often down to using inferior or no-longer-supported plug-ins. A warning to anyone who's running a Wordpress site: keep those plug-ins to a minimum, and if you must use them, keep them up to date!