Steve Roe Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 8 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: I really do not know how else one can explain the Clinton/Jackson incident or Jessie Core --Shaw's aide de camp-- and the Oswald flyers. As that incident indicates--and Paul elucidates some of it--Shaw and Core were aware of what Banister was doing with Oswald for the anti FPCC crusade in New Orleans. (See Joe McBride's nice post above on that.) Mr. DiEugenio, Shaw and Core were not aware of what Banister was doing. That's a complete myth. In fact, Jesse Core called the FBI and reported Oswald's picketing. So how do you explain that? https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=10477#relPageId=696&search="Jesse_Core" Also Mr. Bleau, as well as yourself, repeat the nonsense about Oswald's leaflets stamped with "544 Camp Street". The cold hard facts are only the Corliss Lamont pamphlets had the 544 Camp Street stamped, not the leaflets. The leaflets had Oswald's Magazine Street and P.O. Box stamped. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1142#relPageId=819 Another important item you and Bleau apparently do not address was Oswald handing out pamphlets in Dallas. In fact, he ordered more pamphlets while in Dallas. Of course, this doesn't square with your FPCC Banister-Oswald-Shaw-Core fantasy. https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=1137#relPageId=531 Fred Litwin explains this huge blunder. https://www.onthetrailofdelusion.com/post/jfk-destiny-betrayed-misleads-viewers-on-oswald-s-hands-off-cuba-handbills Mr. DiEugenio you and Mr. Bleau are making this harder than it really should be, with all these crazy sub-plots and Cecil B. DeMille "Cast of Thousands" conspirators. In my opinion, you are really confusing people with these extremely dubious speculative claims. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Sandy Larsen Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 1 hour ago, Steve Roe said: Also Mr. Bleau, as well as yourself, repeat the nonsense about Oswald's leaflets stamped with "544 Camp Street". The cold hard facts are only the Corliss Lamont pamphlets had the 544 Camp Street stamped, not the leaflets. Posted by David Boylan: Doh! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Roe Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 41 minutes ago, David Boylan said: JFK Oliver Stone movie prop. Read Fred Litwin's article. This stuff has been floating around for years. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gerry Down Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 8 minutes ago, Steve Roe said: JFK Oliver Stone movie prop. Read Fred Litwin's article. This stuff has been floating around for years. Yup. Look at the size of the 544 Camp Street font compared to the font of a PO Box 30016 one. The font of the latter is much smaller. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Roe Posted September 21, 2022 Share Posted September 21, 2022 5 minutes ago, Gerry Down said: Yup. Look at the size of the 544 Camp Street font compared to the font of a PO Box 30016 one. The font of the latter is much smaller. Yes Gerry, you are correct. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) This is utterly silly. And its typical of these two clowns. As Bill Davy and others have proven, the whole ITM episode appears to have been a rehearsed playlet. 1. As noted above, Core knew about the faux pas LHO pulled on Canal Street and sent it to the FBI with a warning note. This was from Shaw's office. (Armstrong, Harvey and Lee, p. 568) 2. Oswald hired helpers from the UE office to leaflet with him since his FPCC group was a sham. (This was proven at Shaw's trial.) 3. Quiroga aided this event by supplying flyers for it, which he lied about. (Davy, pp. 38-39) 4. Core called for the cameras. (Davy, p. 38) Now, I suppose you could say its just a coincidence that these films get on TV after the assassination, along with other shots from New Orleans. Thereby incriminating Oswald in the public mind as the lonely, social misfit, handing out pro communist literature in New Orleans and therefore supplying a motive to the murder. But in light of the above facts, I would beg to disagree--just a little. In light of the above it looks more like a well disguised charade to me. Edited September 21, 2022 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 And make no mistake, the FBI appreciated Core's notation. Because, after the assassination, FBI agent Harry Maynor sent a message to headquarters: "Several Fair Play for Cuba pamphlets contained address 544 Camp Street." That message was scratched out. But the writing was still legible. And recall this is an internal communication. (John Newman, Oswald and the CIA, p. 310) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) As Newman notes in his book, Oswald was delivering these flyers for months. He first did this undercover and secretly. In an attempt to smoke out Castro sympathizers at local colleges like Dr. Leonard Reismann. (Newman, p. 331) He then broke out from this undercover role and took to the streets to create a bit of public theater. But he was having these flyers printed first by a print shop and then he put stamps on them himself out of the room at the Newman building. Banister was pretty upset about that address. (DiEugenio, Destiny Betrayed, second edition, p.111, p.114) James Arthus, the 544 Camp Street custodian, had disposed of Oswald's paraphernalia after the assassination. (ibid, p. 180) PS: please note Dave Boylan's valuable post above as an example of what Oswald was doing that got Banister upset. That does not look like the Lamont pamphlet to me. Edited September 21, 2022 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted September 21, 2022 Author Share Posted September 21, 2022 (edited) I interviewed Core down at his New Orleans apartment in about 1994. I could have busted him pretty good, but at that time I just did not have the information we had just a few years later. He was basically giving me a snowjob about Shaw, Oswald and the whole ITM operation. I didn't know any better at that time, especially about him. I regret not being able to confront him with the proper information and documents. Edited September 21, 2022 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Gene Kelly Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 Reading Part 3 of Paul Bleu's work, he ends by mentioning one member of this network that has not been discussed yet ... a muscular Latino who was often seen accompanying Oswald, or perhaps an Oswald double. He was considered so suspicious that the whole Garrison team was on the look-out for him. He was never identified. He was seen so often and described in corroborative terms that can leave no doubt that Oswald, the supposed lone-nut drifter, had at least one escort. Why the suspense ... who was this person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 minute ago, Gene Kelly said: Reading Part 3 of Paul Bleu's work, he ends by mentioning one member of this network that has not been discussed yet ... a muscular Latino who was often seen accompanying Oswald, or perhaps an Oswald double. He was considered so suspicious that the whole Garrison team was on the look-out for him. He was never identified. He was seen so often and described in corroborative terms that can leave no doubt that Oswald, the supposed lone-nut drifter, had at least one escort. Why the suspense ... who was this person? Thanks Gene - I think we all want to know who he was. Anyone? David Morales? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted September 22, 2022 Author Share Posted September 22, 2022 That is coming up in a separate section fairly soon. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Cummings Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 1 hour ago, Paul Brancato said: Thanks Gene - I think we all want to know who he was. Anyone? David Morales? Maybe the Nash Rambler driver or perhaps it's the same person? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Boylan Posted September 22, 2022 Share Posted September 22, 2022 (edited) HSCA report on the 544 Camp St address - https://www.aarclibrary.org/publib/jfk/hsca/reportvols/vol10/pdf/HSCA_Vol10_AC_13_544Camp.pdf Edited October 17, 2022 by David Boylan Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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