Paul Bacon

I've barely got a grasp on this, but I'm fascinated. Could this explain why there was so little movement in "manequin row" during the passage of the limo in the extant film?! ...because what we see (the crowd) was actually filmed before the limo entered Elm St.?

Minor point here, but maybe the Oak Cliff office was closed on Sunday.

Joe, Mt. Katahdin, I believe, is the tallest mountin in Maine. But you were right--all those low temp readings were on Mt. Washington. The news reports were all over the map with record temperatures reporting. I heard our local tv. station say the low temp early Saturday morning, with wind chill, was -147, and that the record low was -155 in the late 1800's. I wondered who was up there taking measurements?!

Joe--minor correction. Mount Washington is in New Hampshire, but you're right about the temperature!! It was -14* here on the ground :>)

Fiona Hill would agree with you.

I completely agree. It doesn't fit Trump's profile in many ways.

Gil, you've misinterpreted that post. It was about finding the truth, not about Lifton going to hell!!

Kilduff pointed to the entrance wound in his press conference announcing Kennedy's death. That was the location of the "right temple area". He was not pointing to indicate that ridiculous amorphous blob we see in the Zap film.

You're a "cognitive dissident"!

W.- I learned Duane's solo in IMOER about 8 or so years ago. His solo was a compilation of two night's recordings, and I found the splice area. For several measures there are actually 3 guitars you can hear. I feel the same as you about that song--absolutely my favorite ABB song. I too, was a Jerry Brown fan. A very authentic man ...like Jimmy Carter.

Ha! Orange Sunshine and the Allman Brothers ...I had that exact trip the summer after "Live at the Fillmore East" was released!

...as well as the tiny glass particles whizzing by (and maybe brushing) his left ear.

You've left me a little unclear. Do you not buy the speculation that the original intent of the conspiritors, was to pin the blame on Cuba/Russia?

Richard, David has suggested that altering medical evidence and the Z film was planned in advance. If the assassination was to look like the Cubans did it, there would have been no need to do the alterations, and so not planned in advance. The fact that these alterations were done, makes me think that the alterations weren't planned in advance and were hastily done. I'm just wondering what David thinks about that idea.

Many speculate that the murder of JFK was supposed to implicate the Cuban government in the triangulated fire with a few participants and that it was after-the-fact that the conspiritors changed the plan to then implicate a lone wolf. If the original plan was to implicate the Cuban government, then controlling the body and all bystander films would not have been necessary. So, I'm going to guess that those things were not planned in advance and were done in great haste after-the-fact. What are your thoughts on that DL?

I, too, am having trouble following your points Chris...

Chris, that rise, to me, looks more like an 8" than a 7", but I don't have the ability to measure it--just going by eye. 30 or more years ago it was quite common to have risers higher than what is usual these days (7"-7.5")--especially on exterior stairs. Don't know how that may effect your thinking... If I remember correctly, Andrej may have taken the measurements used to create the model from a document listing dimensions of the doorway area.

Andrej, Chris Davidson is probably the only one in this thread who can appreciate the capabilities that the program you've used provide. He does measurements inside photographs all the time. I would love to see him corroberate your findings using his own methods. I completely agree with you that the Prayerman figure is male. A side note: I was a small time remodeling contractor and I "photo-matched" (using the program) pictures I'd taken of potential jobs a lot of times. It took time, but it was worth it because I could virtually build the whole addition (or deck, etc.) sitting at home on my computer. It was accurate enough that I could pre-cut parts without resorting to tape measures and plumb bobs hanging in thin air. Sketchup--architects use it all the time--is very accurate. You've done great work.

Once again, great history lesson Jim Di. Your posts have filled in a lot of blanks for me...

Andrej, I just want to make sure we're all talking about the same figure here. The figure everyone's talking about is the figure between pink-dressed lady and the cop in front of her. This figure would be on the inside of the glass doorway assembly. We all agree with this, right? Or am I wrong? BTW, I agree with you that the Darnell still is different than the still photo Alan Ford posted--particularly the angle of the arm holding something in front...

Long live the King....

I'm suprised and disappointed that you're not seeing it. I'm guilty of having had you on a pedastal. Achitects and Engineers for 9/11 Truth would be a good place for you to start. It doesn't take a Physics degree to see that something doesn't add up.

Great history lesson Gentlemen! Thank you.

Yeah Pat, I do understand that you've put yourself out there for many years and have taken a lot of heat. And that, because of your independance and tenacity, you end up asking uncomfortable questions that piss some people off. I want you to know I have huge respect for your knowledge and independance. I think what you do is important. Mostly I'm very curious about the information regarding the clearer version of Darnell (or was it Weigman, or both?). I'd never heard this story before and I find it fascinating. When Andrej posted his work, about a year ago, with the program Sketchup (I used to be versed in it having been a building contractor), I was very taken with it. The 3D capability gives us a lot of information that we wouldn't otherwise have. Adding to it a clearer version of the photos he worked with, I believe, will give us even more circumstantial information, as Andrej suggests above. Maybe the clearer version won't give us conclusive proof that Prayerman is Oswald, but it could go a long way in improving our understanding of the circumstances out on the front steps. Keep up your good work Pat.

The way you've worded this sentance raises a question for me Pat. The only people I've seen "pissed off" by your questioning the evidence, are right here on this forum. Are you saying the people who have the capability to receive and share the access are right here on this forum? Who is bitching about you?