Nick Bartetzko

@Denny Zartman Didn’t Jack White have a collage of photos he did years ago of the Mannlicher photographed in Dallas vs the one in the National Archives today wherein he alleged discrepancies as to the length and a slight variation in the font of the C2766? Any recollection of that? Nick

Wow….amazing…. I’m just stunned in your ability to dismiss or ignore the incredible amount of materials that have been accumulated that contradict your lone nut position.

Hi Vince, Hmmm…more good stuff in another book 🤔 Works for me!

Vince, Was there not was a Secret Service agent…I forgot which one…who claimed he had copies of the Secret Service records for the Chicago trip and promised to make them available? Is my memory correct on that, and if so, did he do that and were you able to get access to those documents for your book? Nick

Joe, That was part of my question as I don’t recall any of the three saying they smelled gunpowder. I’m aware of Senator Yarborough’s comment, but I can’t see how the smell of gunpowder from the 6th floor can be reconciled with someone detecting it at street level. The smell at street level was likely from the sewer drain and/or knoll.

Thanks for your comment, BC. Yes, am aware of the numerous witnesses who saw a rifle projecting from the 6th floor window and pointing downward. Can’t recall any specifically who saw smoke being discharged from the barrel and who smelled gunpowder as well. I think it’s very likely (two) shots were fired from the window, just wasn’t 100% convinced. We do have one or more witnesses who also saw an individual with a rifle at the opposite end of the 6th floor.

Having been to Dealey Plaza twice and having stood in each location, both sites were definitely deliberate diversions. I am not 100% convinced that shots were fired from the “Oswald window”. Can anyone answer whether or not there would be any detectible scent of gunpowder on the 6th floor when reporters and police got up there? How long could the scent of gunpowder linger inside if a rifle had been fired?

You could be right. But for me, that would stretch credulity a bit for a bone fragment to cause that perception. But my recollection is also that she may be the only witness in her area to claim a bullet struck the street. A few witnesses were on the overpass and then we have the DPD motorcyclist. I don’t ever recall seeing a witness plat that showed their locations and where they claim bullets struck.

Thanks for your diligent work. It’s also interesting to see where Virginia Rachley was and as it relates to her testimony about a bullet striking the street.

There is no way to reconcile this issue. There is such a huge discrepancy with what is shown on the Z film vs what virtually all the Parkland and Bethesda witnesses saw. The stare of death photo coincides with the eyewitness accounts, although I’ve often wondered why that photo was taken with the various pieces of gauze in place. I don’t know how it would technically be possible to show the cavernous wound on the Z film if it were not true. The black patch on the rear of the head in the high resolution scan is so obvious I don’t see how anyone could dispute it. Has that same amount of scrutiny been applied to the cavernous head wound? It probably has, but I’ve not seen it discussed. I think there was a frontal and rear head shot which coincides with evidence and the appearance of the inside of the limousine and coincides with the descriptions as well of the flanking motorcyclists at the rear of the vehicle.

I heard about the Dog Days at the White House book decades ago. Tried to buy a used copy back then, but it was a bit too pricey. It was the first glimpse of marijuana, unclothed pool parties etc etc. We have the Fiddle and Faddle girls, the book by Mimi Alford, the interviews with some of the Secret Service guys describing some of these events. It seems there’s quite a damning record of these liaisons. It seems a well documented part of JFKs life and could have contributed to what I believe is likely Secret Service involvement to a certain…or large…extent.

If Seaton is correct, this coincides with what Dino Brugnioni claims he saw.

After all these year, finally learned the identity of this witness. Thanks to all for posting

I don’t disagree with you at all on that. It’s a piece of a large puzzle the points to Ozzy not being a real defector. I just wish there was much more than just one letter from Mr Lord.

Thanks for posting, but this letter is of limited value. Unless there is another letter or interview that gives a physical description of Oswald, details why he believes/knows that Oswald was CIA and FBI, then it amounts only to allegations. I have no idea if there is a list of passengers available for that trip. But even if there is, it is still of little value imo.

I’ve never been able to reconcile the picture(s) of Lee in Robert Oswald’s book…which I’ve not read and don’t have either. There are so many conflicts that have to be explained away to say it’s only one individual that I’m inclined to believe there were two Oswald’s, at least for a while. The concept of having two individuals sharing one identity being used by certain agencies back in those days in quite believable to me. Are you aware of actual proof of sets of individuals that have either come out and admitted being part of such programs or that researchers were able to uncover? I mean hard proof like birth certificates, mother and father details, photos from school days etc.?

That was some years ago as Rich passed away in 2010. My recollection is that Rich told me he didn’t…or no longer … needed it. Whether Greg then later received it to do filming, I have no idea. It would have been a waste not to use it as was in such good condition.

I sent an excellent condition film of the exact type that Zapruder used to Rich Della Rosa that could have been used for that purpose. Rich passed away and I have no idea what happened to that film

Laffite sure had some interesting aliases including John and Jack Martin, Martino, Mertz and Hidell… Great info once more

I don’t have the time to look this up, but it sure sounds like the Robert Morningstar theory of using JD Tippit’s body and that Tippit looked like JFK. I thought Morningstar was a member here as well….

I very much respect all the work you’ve done on the JFKA over the years and your different conclusions. But in order to do so, you and fellow WC supporters have had to ignore/dismiss so very many credible witness statements, ignore very important missing evidence, claim that many individuals were mistaken etc etc. I truly wonder if part of your support of the WC and anything considered anti conspiratorial is based at least in part that your faith in the government and our system would be crushed if a conspiracy were ever proven to your satisfaction ….

BC i absolutely agree with you that if indeed a false flag op existed and the perpetrators piggybacked onto it to kill JFK, then there had to be one or two locations where shots were intended to miss….and pin the attempt onto Castro/Cuba. I believe that would explain deliberate misses from the fence and 6th floor. I don’t believe the angle, injuries to JFK, debris, blood splatter can logically point to a shot(s) from the corner of the fence and very likely to the Depository as well….

Huh? Not one shred of evidence? Ok, then cumulatively, I’ll list what I feel is “suspicious “….. The Tague curb strike and his injury, the reports by a motorcyclist and 5-6 witnesses of a bullet striking the street, witnesses reporting a puff of smoke and movement behind the picket fence, Malcolm Summers encounter with trench coat man at the picket fence, a witness report of a bullet(s) striking the grass, the smell of gun powder at street level, the Harper fragment in the street and a bone fragment in the follow up secret service car, blood splatter on the motorcycle cops to the rear of the limo, Doug Horne’s work on NPIC and Hawkeyeworks and the two different briefing boards, no nitrate residue on Oswald’s cheek, the crimped bullet casing on the 6th floor, the huge discrepancies between the wounds as described at Parkland vs Bethesda, missing X-rays and photographs from the autopsy, the burnt original autopsy, a Bethesda eyewitness describing a right temple wound…. I think I’ll stop as I’m sure you have plausible explanations for everything that I’ve listed… To paraphrase a famous line out of a well known 50s sitcom… “you got some ‘splainin’ to do”….

Thanks, Ron. I may read one or two of the Albarelli books after all….

@Ron BulmanThanks for this very interesting thread and it makes me give much more credibility to to the possible involvement of Laffite. The reference to New Orleans and William Reilly are fascinating and so is Albarelli’s communication with Hemming. I’m unclear what book this interview with Hemming is in. Pls advise. It’s been years since I’ve read any JFKA books, but I may need to read one or two more…