Nick Bartetzko

Thanks, Gil. I’ve seen a still or brief video of the guy Summers described. It’s amazing to me how bold a few of these participants were….

I was out of town, so belated Christmas wishes and a great 2024 to all! I keep learning new and significant information here and appreciate the hard work and good research to get closer to the truth of what happened all those years ago….

I haven’t seen Thompson’s presentation on that in quite a while, but isolating the video on JFK and Connally individually at around Z 328 or so was very persuasive. I believe I’ve seen a version of Nix that depicts what could be headshot debris exiting rearward. Whether that’s an artifact of the film copy or not, I have no idea. But the timing would be very coincidental.

That is an excellent find. You mention Clint Hill telling a neighbor, but might you be confusing that with SS Agent Sam Kinney who confided the same information to his neighbor?

I have not read it and haven’t bought a new JFKA book in years. Have spent many hundreds of dollars over decades and am frankly a bit burned out. I have been planning on selling or donating virtually all of them and didn’t want to add any more to the collection. The one exception would definitely have been Lifton ‘s Final Charade. But I’ll take a look now over at Amazon since you mentioned it.

@Leslie Sharp I think your idea of a central public repository is a great idea and I would be interested in learning more. I do understand the complexities of protecting sources, having legal contracts in place, book deals, etc. Some of my post was a response in frustration because, imo, we’ve lost valuable research and historical information because researchers didn’t properly care for the research they had accumulated. You mentioned trajectories and I have yet to see a really good trajectory analysis that takes into account wound abrasion, clothing distortion, using Z186 and Z224 as key frames and body positioning at those frames, accessibility of the body from certain potential firing points, descriptions of X-ray findings and autopsy corpsman descriptions of the internal chest cavity, etc. I don’t have the skillset to do that, but I think reasonably specific firing points could be established using “reverse engineering “. I must say that the description of Hank’s book is fascinating, but the concept of using Pierre Lafitte in such an important capacity is well, unbelievable. Until there is solid verification of the authenticity of his notebook, I will remain very skeptical. Thanks for taking the time to post and reveal his work.

Thank you for posting. The idea that police misidentified a Mauser vs a Carcano and for such a long time isn’t believable. And that “mixup” is at least consistent with the pointed bullet found at Parkland by Tomlinson and Poole and the inconsistency with CE 399…..

The understanding of what happened is clearer now than ever. The back wound was indeed shallow and it was confirmed by an autopsy tech that the back probe simply pushed against intact chest tissue, but did not go through. Two SS agents claimed to have placed a bullet in Parkland. It is to me irrelevant which agent was covering for the other’s mishandling of evidence. The Pat Speer/Tink Thompson bone fragment exit theory is interesting and coincides with no metal residue being found on the front of the shirt and tie, but does not explain Dr Perry’s very specific comment to Weisberg in 1966 at Parkland that the wound had a ring of bruising that is consistent with a wound of entry. Dr Perry wiped blood from that wound and saw the ring of bruising. Unless a small, exiting fragment of bone can cause a ring of bruising, it is now a moot point. It doesn’t also explain why someone would cut such a large opening in the neck. The only conclusion is an attempt to retrieve something.

One has to be quite a unique/special individual to really pursue the JFKA. Many have done very intriguing and sometimes very good investigative work, yet hold onto their findings like a hungry dog that is guarding it’s very last bone. I understand that countless hours and lots and lots of money have been spent and there is a rightful desire to try and recoup as many of those expenses as possible by selling a book or rights to a movie or whatever…. But there is, I believe, also an obligation to the serious JFKA body of researchers to share at least some of this alleged new information to try and vet it. We have David Lifton, for example, who claimed to have incredible new revelations backed by documents and interviews. And then Mr Lifton has suddenly passed on and we’re all left to wonder whether any of these materials will ever see the light of day now so that they can be properly examined and evaluated. So that’s the problem with gatekeepers…they hold all the keys and parcel out breadcrumbs as they see fit. One moment they’re here, the next, they’re not. Over the years, I also recall Richard Case Nagel and his trunk of secret recordings and documents. The materials were very secure as only he had the key to the safe deposit box. And then he passed away and the mysterious trunk and materials had vanished. Then there are those who’d seen the real Z film that was in a secure vault somewhere in France. It was safely stored, but still too dangerous to be released after all these years, but apparently safe enough to sit in a location where it could likely quite easily be stolen. Then there’s the story of the sharpshooter who served in Vietnam, who confided to a poster here that he’d been asked to participate in Dallas, but who’s now dead. But his secrets are being held in confidence because, well, that’s much more important than trying to gather evidence to try and solve the Crime of the Century. There are other examples, but these so readily came to mind. I can only wonder what’s next…………

I’m presuming they didn’t show the Getty shirt that shows the neck shirt damage higher than the back wound shirt damage. Actually, the damage on the shirt front is likely from that of a scalpel and fibers removed for testing by the FBI….

Might be considered right wing by some, but I appreciate them citing their sources and allowing me to make up my own mind. Very good coverage by them on the JFKA….

Cory, I thought I was the Lone Ranger out here…. Nice to know a couple of guys are close by

I have never considered the possibility that the pointy nosed bullet was anything but JFKA related. No other gunshot cases at the time and the stretcher probably was that of the youngster, Ronny Fuller. Speaking of bullets, whatever happened to the Connolly bullet that was given by the nurse to the Texas Ranger? And whatever happened to the bullet found in the car that the White House physician Dr Young spoke of?

Huh…some guys are in the Vegas area? I thought everyone was back east. I’m an hour outside of Vegas. None of the Vegas folks I know like having the F1 race there

I’ve always thought it was Shelley. No question in my mind.

We have 2 Secret Service agents (Landis and Kinney) who say they found a bullet in the car and then placed it in Parkland. After giving this a lot of thought, I think that’s actually what happened. I think Kinney just wanted it known that a bullet was indeed found and did not want to publicly point the finger at his fellow agent Landis. That’s the reason he told his neighbor. I also think it was not a round tip 6.5 mm type, rather a pointed tip as described by Tomlinson and Poole. As I recall, but could not quickly find a reference to, I believe a SS Agent ..or maybe FBI… named Johnson would/could not confirm that CE 399 was the bullet he saw. That Zapruder video clip is quite interesting as well. I don’t think the dented cartridge belongs with the short charged bullet. The firing striations aren’t the same as the other 2 cartridges. Maybe Hemming was actually telling the truth when he said it was a deliberately underpowered round and its purpose was to be a “meat shot”. It very likely wasn’t CE399 and then we have the Mauser vs Carcano “confusion” that should have been cleared up within hours, not much later.

I’ve been intrigued with this guy ever since he was pointed out on this forum. Not quite as suspicious, but similar to my thoughts on the umbrella man and DCM. Your comments about him and the floor laying crew are very thought provoking.

Very thought provoking. Thanks. Are you aware if any paperwork/invoices exist for this plywood laying job or was there ever a mention of any contractor name?

One of the many interesting characters in the JFKA was Richard Case Nagell. I had no idea he lived in Los Angeles in the 90s, the same time that I did and I knew the area where it was reported that he had lived. It would have been interesting to knock on his door and see if he would have spoken with me. It's my guess that his tapes and other items were likely compromised while he was still alive. The other very interesting character was Claude Capehart, who according to his girlfriend, admitted to being in the school book depository. Now Capehart is linked to the Glomar Explorer and the CIA. I had read an article in Jim D's Probe journal and it discussed a local judge and sheriff up in the Fresno area in California. Apparently there was a copy of Capehart drivers license, but the sheriff wasn't able to find it. When I called up there a couple of decades ago and spoke with the sheriff, he told me I was the second guy who inquired about it and if he ever found it, he would give me a call. Well, I never did receive that phone call. It would've been interesting to see what photographs were published by the HSCA in 1976 or 77 in the Fresno Newspaper that caused Capehart to panic and tell the story to his girlfriend. I think Capehart's information would've been even more interesting than Nagell's....

Dr Duke was quite interesting indeed.... Heard about him years ago and it's interesting to me how the doctors careers morphed like Dr Perry ending up in Washington state, Dr Salyer becoming a craniofacial plastic surgeon etc

I have always thought the storm drain by the stairs was the probable source of the temple shot for the reasons just listed. Couple that with the brain/bone tissue disbursement .... bone fragment in the Queen Mary per Sam Kinney.... and the physical movement of the body and description of the sound by a couple of witnesses and it just seems that location makes the most sense. This storm drain theory was investigated by a guy named Jack Brazil years ago. Iirc, he crawled through the drain which emptied into the Trinity River. There were pics showing all this. I gave the Brazil written materials to a guy here named Dean Hagerman who lived on the west coast. Found out later that wasn't his actual name. In my opinion, shots from the GK were diversionary only and likely what the Hartmans saw and described.

Mr Cohen....see link....

I never got around to reading Kantor's book. Still have if after all these years....

Yes, checked and good here

Jim, This came up years ago. I believe Dr Burkley's daughter was married to Farmers Insurance Group CEO Leo Dunlea in Los Angeles. I worked for Farmers in Los Angeles for 25 years and was right across the street from the Home Office. I met him a couple of times over the years. He was a quiet, distinguished man and it's my opinion that he convinced his wife to change her mind as he did not want his name in public and associated in any way to the JFKA. Again, I have nothing to base this on other than his quiet leadership style and my impressions after very brief interactions with him. Nick