Terry Adams

Ron mentions that Dallas was 'CIA controlled'. I doubt anyone on the forum would question that Chicago and Miami were CIA/Mob controlled, as well. So, as to what part Dallas played in the assassination, it was simply another place that, with the help of others such as Cabell, met the criteria, as a location, for another attempt to murder the president. If the earlier attempts were carried out by the same people, then Dallas was just a convenient location to finish the job. As president Kennedy said on the morning of the 22nd, (paraphrasing) anyone could kill him from the top of a building with a high powered rifle. My belief is that once the decision was made to kill him, if it didn't happen in one planned location then they would go on to the next, and the next, until it was done!

My father a corporal in Patton's Army in Europe. I know from his discharge papers that he fought in the Rhineland and France. Although my family has 3 Purple hearts, a Bronze Star and a Silver Star, we have no information on why those medals were presented to my father. Nor can I find out if he was exposed to any germ warfare in the areas that he fought. All I know is that he entered the Army a very healthy young man and was dead at 51 years old. I have no answers because my government told me that all records having ANY reference to my father were lost in a fire at the National Personnel Records Building in 1973.

Although some may not agree with my assessment, I think that there was only one(1) secret service man who went waaaay above and beyond his job duties that day, and his name is Clint Hill.

The CIA would not comment on the lawsuit, but the agency dismisses all accusations that it was involved in a conspiracy to kill the president.(taken from the article) “While the CIA conspiracy theories make good fodder for movies, they are pure fiction,” spokesman Edward Price said. My question here is; how would Mr. Price know anymore about CIA involvement than you or me! Does he have access to the papers that Jefferson Morley has been attempting to get through the FOIA for more than a decade. I don't think so! It is an opinion of a man who happens to be allowed to write "CIA" after his name.

"All I wanted to be was a hero and it looks like I just messed things up." According to Leavelle, this is what Ruby said to him as he was being transported to the county jail. I have not read this before as a reason for Jack Ruby shooting Oswald. Is this news to to anyone else on the forum?

In July, 1969 I was was 17 (would be 18, August 03). I was working the summer for a clothing store where I had worked, part time during my junior and senior senior year of High School. The family that owned the clothing store also had a furniture store, where I also occasionally worked as well. On Thursday, the 18th, I borrowed a 13' color television from the manager of the furniture store so that my family could watch the moon landing in color. We had a floor model B&W television. So, I was sitting with my Dad (just as I had during 4 days in November, 1963). Mom was there as well as my two brothers. We watched the landing and man walking on the moon as well as their blast off and docking with the Command Module. On Monday, I went back to work and purchased that 13" television (on payments) for a sum of $849.95. (took me all the way through community college to pay that off...lol) Yesterday I was in my Mom's house showing my wife where we all were in the living room 50 years ago! What wonderful memories!!

Ron, I totally agree with you on everything you are saying. I should have added it in my post. The fact that he would take such information given him and make it public just angered me so much I had to say something about it. When Robert Kennedy, himself, says "there are guns between me and the white house", it is because he knows this, it is not, in my opinion, speculation. With all of the respect I have for Mark Lane, and it is immense, he should have known the risk he could be putting RFK in. Obviously the Ambassador Hotel plan was already in the works, but my belief is that with Bobby saying he was going to prosecute the perpetrators of his brother's murder, it seemed that he had names. These people were not going to let him get into the position to do that!!

If it is true that Mark lane made this, obviously, very private statement by RFK public, then he had to know he was putting the Senator's life in extreme danger. And, as Tony states, Garrison was there when he said it, he obviously had no regard for RFK's safety!!

Ron, I believe this is the first time that I have heard one of the attending doctors to outright say that a member of his team was told to change his statement about a wound! This is an amazing article. What a shame that such a talented surgeon, Dr. Malcom Perry, no doubt very proud of what a career he had built for himself, had been badgered by a man, Secret Service, no less, to change his statement that the president had been shot from behind, instead of how he had believed, based on years of looking at gunshot wounds, that the shot to the throat came from the front. It is also extremely sad that a person, while holding such a prestigious job title, as Secret Service Agent, Mr. Elmer Moore, simply because of his beliefs that President John F. Kennedy was soft on communism, was okay that the president could be killed and then agree to pressure a person who is a medial doctor to lie about how he was killed (all shots from behind). Mr Moore has admitted to having been ordered by his superiors to badger Dr. Perry into changing his statement. https://crosscut.com/2017/11/john-f-kennedy-assassination-files-seattle-trump-release-shooters

Right on all points, Jim. Johnson was :biting at the bit" to get that finished. People working there have since written about the scurrying to put the final report together. Also, a point that sticks out with me, in my memory, was that Dulles slept through a great deal of the time that he was in the room. From that I had drawn a picture of an older man that may have not necessarily been in touch, but this interview, with his darting eyes, and quick responses points me back to the arguments that have been made of how Dulles was sitting over the hearings with very little interest as to what evidence was brought in front of them, as he was going to have the report written the way he wanted it anyway!

To what extent Oswald was involved, as Pamela indicates, cannot be fully known, but I concur that had he been watched, or better yet, brought in for questioning, we could very well have had a different outcome on that day. As everyone here know, the feelings on Oswald's involvement cover the whole spectrum, from patsy to shooter. I do not think that we can patently say that he had nothing to do with the assassination.

The fact that Hosty did not take his job seriously enough to, at least, verify where Oswald was on November 22, 1963 says that it is possible to place the blame for the assassination squarely at his feet!

“I told the FBI what I had heard [two shots from behind the grassy knoll fence], but they said it couldn’t have happened that way and that I must have been imagining things. So I testified the way they wanted me to. I just didn’t want to stir up any more pain and trouble for the family.”– Kennedy aide Kenneth O’Donnell, quoted by House Speaker Thomas P. “Tip” O’Neill Jr. in “Man of the House,” p. 178. O’Donnell was riding in the Secret Service follow-up car with Dave Powers, who was present and told O’Neill he had the same recollection. (this is a post made by Goban Saor on the 'Reopen the Kennedy Case' forum)

Abraham Lincoln was quoted during the height of the civil war , at a cabinet meeting, saying; “Gentlemen, why don’t you laugh? With the fearful strain that is upon me night and day, if I did not laugh I should die, and you need this medicine as much as I do.”

I am at a loss as to why Lisa would ascertain that Sirhan was shooting blanks. There were 5 other people shot along with Bobby Kennedy!

I also don't believe that Hoover and the FBI would have immediately jumped in of their own volition and almost immediately start covering up a crime that they didn't know the truth about. Denny Zartman. That has always been my problem with the whole case. It just never made sense to me that people in powerful positions would start creating the 'single shooter' story before they had done any investigation. Hoover was talking to Johnson on the phone, literally hours after the assassination, saying it was this man, Oswald. At the same time, many people in Dealey Plaza were telling the police they saw smoke in the trees of the grassy knoll, plus Senator Yarborough said he smelled gunpowder( this at ground level). So, without question, the people that needed to know, knew!!

The author was asked what kind of feedback did he receive from people in the audience ,and his answer was the same as my reaction; SILENCE! I am blown away by this matter of fact, no holds barred, step by step description of the assassination of John F. Kennedy. I certainly look forward to what will be posted about this book on this forum.

James, I like the idea of auto pay as well. I am guilty of forgetting to pay on time, occasionally. If you can set that up through credit card payments, I believe that will solve our problems. I think that most will agree that with me, because we won't have to remember it each month. Whatever you come up with, I will try to send something each month. This is a wonderful forum and it would be a terrible loss of valuable information, as well as the opportunity to talk with like minded individuals, if it had to close. I started on Lancer back in the day, and have been here for years. In my opinion, it is the premiere forum on JFK, as well as many other subjects!

Mr. Jenkins says he saw a hole in the back of the head, with brains, skull and skin gone, seemingly at the same place the Parkland doctors said it was located!

Just as he did with the blockade during the missle crisis, President Kennedy would have also had those words of wisdom," do not fight a land war in Asia" in the back of his mind and the Unites States would not have put large numbers of troops in Viet Nam. We have the president on tape with Walter Cronkite, saying that it is their (the Vietnamese) war. The U. S. can help them, but in the end, they have to fight it. (paraphrasing). There would not have been a Viet Nam war if John F. Kennedy had lived!!

Thank you Mr. McBride. I have always known that it was a George Bernard Shaw quote, but it was just my way, and as you pointed out, so do many others, of putting a signature statement to Robert Kennedy, whom I, obviously, have tremendous respect for. I was not, and would not, in any way, take away from Mr. Shaw's words. Back, all those years ago, when I wrote the signature statement, I should have put his name in parenthesis! But, to the post that I have put up for comment, I know that it is old information to most of us here, but I felt that, particularly, if two of JFK's closest friends/advisors would immediately go with the "official" story, there had to be powerful reasons for them to do so! So, I hoped that some of our long time contributors, as well as any other member would weigh in on this.

“I told the FBI what I had heard [two shots from behind the grassy knoll fence], but they said it couldn’t have happened that way and that I must have been imagining things. So I testified the way they wanted me to. I just didn’t want to stir up any more pain and trouble for the family.”– Kennedy aide Kenneth O’Donnell, quoted by House Speaker Thomas P. “Tip” O’Neill Jr. in “Man of the House,” p. 178. O’Donnell was riding in the Secret Service follow-up car with Dave Powers, who was present and told O’Neill he had the same recollection. (this is a post made by Goban Saor on the 'Reopen the Kennedy Case' forum)

Mr. Parnell, I agree with the terminology, "killing Castro business." I am sure that a tremendous amount of money was spent by the U. S. Government and others to "kill" Castro. The fact that he was not assassinated shows that he may well have been a story from a bad novel. If I am correct, I think that Castro himself claimed that over 100 attempts had been made on his life. It was just great politics on all sides to keep him alive. I'm sure that the little people involved were trying their best to get the job done, when all the time, there were actions, over their heads, that kept anything "real" from happening. I am sure that many, many people (powers that be) got rich in the "killing Castro business." This is somewhat off course, but if that had really been an effort to allow someone such as Veciana and his people to have removed Castro, the tragic events of Nov. 22, 1963 may have been averted.

Pat, you are absolutely right on the money. People under 30 look at JFK as they do Abraham Lincoln. He was one of our past presidents who was also assassinated! End of discussion.

Paul, Are you saying that the CIA did not kill, or have JFK killed? I thought that was a given among the CTers! I know that everyone, including, but not limited to, LBJ, Jimmy Hoffa and Edwin Walker, to name a few, have been blamed. I have been under the obviously mistaken impression, according to you, that basically anyone connected with the assassination were connected, somehow, with the CIA! I have been believing the government did it since my Dad and I watched Oswald murdered on live television! So, I would greatly appreciate it if you will tell me what to tell the people I talk with, and have been talking with most of my life, about that horrible tragedy on November 22, 1963, NOW! And Paul, I am not really speaking directly to you, I am just trying to grasp onto something real after almost 54 years .