Karl Kinaski

You can't argue with ole Thompson: He believes since his entrance into the debate (SIX SECONDS IN DALLAS c 1967) that the Zapruder film ( now stored in the National Archives) is genuine. It is not. It's a 18 million dollar piece of fabricated crap.

IMO the best documentary about the RFK murder-case. Quote, Y-Tube-Text of the video: "The groundbreaking Golden Globe-nominated documentary about the RFK assassination by the late Ted Charach and Gerard Alcan" https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bjOjsOKS4gs ----------------- And another Video YT-Channel: Firing Line with William Buckley 56.500 Abonnenten Episode S0181, Recorded on April 11, 1975 Guest: Allard K. Lowenstein Lowenstein was shot to dead in his office five years after his brave appearance in Buckleys FIRING LINE Episode. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TZQXrwSjbMQ Are judges watching y-tube? I hope so.

Jack White was fooled by two "researchers": Gary Mack, who started as a CTer (in the shadows of the HSCA) and morphed (which White could not understand) into a staunch LNter as chief-gravedigger of the truth of the 6th Floor Mausoleum and John Armstrong, who made White a true believer in his HARVEY&LEE-sermon ... BTW: White survived an assassination attempt by a naked assassin, who tried to stab him to dead in his home in Dallas ...

https://www.microplexnews.com/2021/04/15/donald-wayne-house/?fbclid=IwAR0LISH3Od0v8jsyEczjMlOGL3mAudAS4WeAZgTwBW7CmVAAS7aYIYAyP7A Some footage of the Oswald Lookalike detained the same hour Oswald was detained ... there was a big show in Forth Worth too that evening on Nov. 22.1963. (Not only in Dallas.) Was Donald Wayne House acting as one of several Oswald doubles? Was he (unknowingly) a "track two" scapegot in case should anything "unscheduled" happend to Oswald? Donald Wayne House took the answer to his grave. https://www.criticalpast.com/video/65675033710_Police-Headquarters_Lee-Harvey-Oswald_flags-half-staff_K-N-Howard

BOT: Since Stone believes Judyth Vary Baker, is there some of her stuff in the Cannes Doku-Premiere?

Prouty also claimed that he personaly knew the three IC-individuals which where responsible for the Powers hoax: The staged U-2 Crash on May 1st 1960 for the purpose to crash the Paris-summit and Ike's "Crusade for peace." He claimed he knew their names. But he never gave them. KK

OT: I remember I ordered the book FINAL CHARADE back in 2001 in an Austrian book shop. It was listed in the computer as about to be published in a few weeks. A month later it disappeared from the computer. 20 years later, were is it? The book-project FINAL CHARADE is one of the most funny things in the JFK assassination mess. KK Regarding the coffin. I think the coffin with Kennedys remains was hijacked in front of the Bethesda Tower, as Hugh Clark described it in an interview with Brent Holland in THIS video at 23min54sec ... after the ambulance disappeared into the dark grounds of Bethesda, there was time enough for the conspirators to perform their first autopsy, which was rather a body stripping to blame Oswald. (No need to hijack the coffin in Dallas, for a secret tunnel and stuff like that ... IMO)

Back in 2000 Shakelford, Platzman, Conway and Baker were close. Since Conway and Lifton had a book project called FINAL CHARADE, and Lifton was a early Judyth hater, Conway was in a fix. She sided with Lifton, but they never published their book FINAL CHARADE while Judyth published her book, despite all the obstacles a bunch of Judyth haters throw her in the way ... NOLA January 2000. Platzman, JVB, Conway, Shakelford, Anna Lewis in 2000 ... Quote from -- that -- side: In early January 2000, Debra Conway (owner and co-founder of JFK Lancer) volunteered to video-tape Anna Lewis in New Orleans. In the videotape, Anna said that she and her husband David Lewis had socialized frequently with Judy Baker and Lee Oswald in New Orleans in the Summer of 1963, including a visit to The Five Hundred Club, where they met with Carlos Marcello. Anna stressed that she thought Judy and Lee were lovers at that time. Anna's filmed testimony was witnessed by Anna's daughter Sondra, Dr. Joseph Riehl, Dr. Howard Platzman, historian Martin Shackelford, Judyth Baker, and Debra Conway who asked Anna questions as she filmed her. Close quote

@Ron Bulman. You are right. To ignore her, is the only way to get around her ... 🙂

I have the Walt Brown book. It is a complete and IMO deliberate distortion of JVB's complex account ... KK

@D. Josephs: @Anna Lewis Interview ... "1962" ..."1963" ... that we call a lapse ... you can't disprove anything because of a lapse ... cheap to do so, isn't it? Fact is: There are hundreds of rebuttals regarding HARVEY AND LEE or RECLAIMING HISTRORY, and not a single one (except some, dealing with minor errors, but errare humanum est) regarding ME AND LEE out there in the www. You know, why? JVB was in NOLA in the summer of 63 ... and her critics were not. BTW: When you dump JVB you dump Haslam too. They are in the same boat. KK

To shift all those repetitive and tiring H&L Topics (about 10 or more) to a subforum would unburden the JFK assassination debate forum a lot, IMO... everyone who is obsessed with H&L could go there for endless debates ... KK

"HARVEY AND LEE" and the "Oswald in NOLA eyewitness" Judyth Vary Baker book "ME AND LEE" are not compatible. That's why Armstrong is refusing to meet Baker to discus the subject. (James Files, the Steven Louis Wittt of the grassy knoll, as I call him, also refuses to meet Baker ... Read how Baker dismantles some of Armstrongs claims brought forward by Athe late Armstrong-Fan Jack White:

BTW: There is a whole sub-forum devoted to HARVEY AND LEE at ROCK. And a FB page dealing with that book. Enough is enough? I think so.

From another thread of this forum dealing with HARVEY AND LEE. (I think there are about ten threads dealing with that book ... Now go to page 288 of HARVEY AND LEE, quote: Quote HARVEY AND LEE: p. 288 It is clear that Oswald understood and spoke Russian prior his arrival in Mos­cow, although the extent of his proficiency remains unknown. It is also clear that after he arrived in the Soviet Union, he dared not let anyone know that he spoke Russian, especially the people with whom he spent the most time, the Zigers, who he probably assumed were report into the KGB. Close quote KK

Edit: double post

@David Josephs: At last your Huston pic shows a lot of motorcycles flanking the limo ... had you read my post, than you would know, that my claim is, that it was a combination of deliberate security flaws which lead to the "siting duck" situation. -- No motorcycles beside the limo -- Two secret service men recalled at Love field, therefore no SS men on beack of the limo -- Stand clear of the Limo -- No additional security provided by the sheriffs in Dallas and army Intelligence -- Low speed at Elm --And last but not least : Breaking the Motorcade into three pieces, Elm, Huston and Main, so that the motorcade participants at one piece can not see what is happening at the other piece ... especially the front piece with the Pres. Limo and the Queen Mary, the kill zone ... BTW Your pic is a highway pic ... where the motorcade travels with higher speed ... and each driver is supposed to stand clear of the car in front of him on a highway ... you and me too ... posting a low speed Huston down-town pic of the Huston Motorcade would have been more fair and appropriate ... KK

There are already six other treads dealing with that particular book HARVEY AND LEE http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/12175-donation-of-harvey-and-lee/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/18963-harvey-and-lee/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/22928-my-review-of-john-armstrongs-harvey-and-lee/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/6924-john-armstrong-hold-the-harvey-and-lee/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/24454-pdf-harvey-and-lee-cd-rom-john-armstrong/ http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/23677-a-couple-of-real-gems-from-the-harvey-and-lee-website/ Plus the "Judyth Vary Baker in Exile" tread, where James Fetzer and Judyth Baker are showing some flaws of that book ... http://educationforum.ipbhost.com/topic/15559-judyth-vary-baker-living-in-exile/ Why another thread about HARVEY AND LEE? KK

Robert Weldon Hargis, the southernmost motorcycle cop at the rear of the pres. limo, was of the opinion, Greer hit the breaks to make it easier for the SS men to jump onto the limo to do their job ... but nobody jumped ... and a second later Hargis was hit in the face with bone fragments, blood and brain-matter, that he thought he was hit too ...

I consider James Files a trained Disinformant. Maybe he is the only jailed person on earth who was paroled after confessing a murder. Files was a "gift-pill" for Wim Dankbaar. This otherwise respectable JFK researcher bought the Files-Tale 100 Percent. Files is a IC creation to muddy the waters ... The Louis Steven Witt of the grassy knoll. Or another Roscoe White ... to put him on trial would be a lose lose situation for the prosecution: If the verdict is guilty, that means conspiracy. If the verdict is not guilty, that means Files is what he is: A fraud ... and the prosecution would appear kinda gullible and naive to take this man seriously. KK

Marita Lorenz, who died recently, testified, she saw Howard Hunt in Dallas the day before the assassination. Whom should we believe? Plumlee or Lorenz? Quote, Spartacus Educational, Marita Lorenz: Marita Lorenz gave sworn testimony that Lee Harvey Oswald, American mercenaries Frank Sturgis and Gerry Patrick Hemming, and Cuban exiles including Orlando Bosch, Pedro Diaz Lanz, and the brothers Guillermo and Ignacio Novo Sampol, had met one November midnight in 1963 at the Miami home of Orlando Bosch and had studied Dallas street maps. She also swore that she and Sturgis were at that time in the employ of the CIA and that they received payment from Howard Hunt under the name "Eduardo," … They arrived in Dallas on 21 November 1963, and stayed at a motel, where the group met Howard Hunt. Hunt stayed for about forty-five minutes and at one point handed an envelope of cash to Sturgis. About an hour after Hunt left, Jack Ruby came to the door. Lorenz says that this was the first time she had seen Ruby. By this time, she said, it was early evening. Close Quote

Conein in his own words: What a timbre ... KK

Plus: The four Motorcycle Cops Hargis, Chaney, Jackson and Martin were told to ride behind the Limo ... Plus: The Dallas Sheriffs were told not to participate in the security of the motorcade ... Plus: Colonel Reichs 112th Army intelligence men were told, they would not provide additional security for the motorcade in Dallas ... Plus: At the last second Secret Service agents Henry Rybka and Don Lawton were recalled at Love Field by fellow agent Emory Roberts And plus, my guess: The driver of the Johnson car was told to stand clear of the Queen Mary and the Presidential Limo, plus William Greer, driver of the Pres. Limo was told to stand clear of the Lead Car (with Curry, Lawson, Decker and Sorrels in it.) Effect: In that particular motorcade Kennedy was presented to his killers like a sitting duck ...

@John Butler. Thx for the info .. ... ... It is my understanding, that there were several Oswald doubles around that days in Dallas, and nobody can say if the Cargo plane double was the Texas Theater double ... . it is therefore one of those interesting story's surroundings the assassination where one can see the fingerprints of intelligence, leading to nowhere ... as intended by the plotters, I guess ... KK

Another "stand clear" pic, IMO ... And another one