Karl Kinaski

That's the same segment I started the thread with, retweeted by Robert F. Kennedy Jr whose comments are the interesting thing here. RFK jr, a couple of years ago came to the conclution that Eugene Thane Caear murdered his father. He planed to interview him and Caesar died. Now he says openly on Twitter, that the killing of his uncle JFK was a successfull coup d'état and I do understand that RFK Jr. is no rightwinger.

Well yes, but actually no ...

Maybe ... maybe The Times the ar A-Changin'

Tucker Carlson @TuckerCarlson Today we spoke to someone who had access to the still-hidden JFK files, and is deeply familiar with their contents. We asked this person directly: did the CIA have a hand in the murder of John F. Kennedy? Here’s the reply: "The answer is yes. I believe they were involved." https://twitter.com/i/status/1603558942558359553

With him a big part of JFKA research-history died. He knew friend and foe, CTers of the first hour as well as the creators of the cover up. He was the only person who confronted Dulles with diametrical evidence to the WC findings in an open discussion. Quote from BEST EVIDENCE, by David Lifton. Young Lifton had the privilige to be in one room with one of the greatest li..ars of the 20. Century. Quote James Jesus Angleton: Close quote Maybe David Lifton is choosing to visit hell right now to meet them and figure out the final truth of the JFKA. RIP

Myers has Tippit driving NORTH after Tippit radioed his location "Lancaster and 8th" LOL, quote from WITH MALICE: "The last twenty minutes of Tippit’s life are a little unclear. It is believed that shortly after Tippit gave his location as “Lancaster and 8th,” he drove a little less than a mile to the Gloco gas station, located at the south end of the Houston Street viaduct, arriving at about 12:57 p.m. This is where fellow officer Ron Nelson had reported from, eight minutes earlier. Photographer Al Volkland and his wife Lou, both of whom reportedly knew Tippit, drove by the service station and waved at Tippit, who was sitting in his squad car watching traffic coming out of downtown Dallas over the viaduct. Three employees of the gas station, Tom Mullins, Emmett Hollingshead and J.B. “Shorty” Lewis, all of whom claimed they knew Tippit, confirmed the Volklands’ story. They said that Tippit remained at the Gloco gas station for about ten minutes. " Close qute () Then acc. to Myers Tippit turned 180 degrees and drove south. Myers has Tippit in the Top Ten Record Shop at 1.11 pm ... In the real world at 1.11 pm Tippit was dead and in the ambulance on it's way to Methodist Hospital. Quote, WITH MALICE: "At about this time, dispatcher Murray Jackson was trying to raise J.D. Tippit on the police radio. “I called him to ask him his location, so I could keep track of him, where he was, in my mind, but he didn’t answer.” While it is commonly believed that Tippit missed the call at 1:03 p.m., there is a possibility that Tippit did in fact respond to Jackson’s location check. Dallas police radio recordings show that twenty-two seconds after Jackson’s request for Tippit’s location, a garbled transmission was made that has the tonal characteristics of other known transmissions made by Tippit, although it was impossible to determine with any degree of certainty whether it was in fact his voice. The exact words are indecipherable. The transmission was made while the dispatcher was engaged in attempting to ascertain the location of another patrol car, Unit 48, A.D. Duncan, which may explain why dispatcher Jackson missed what may have been Tippit’s return call. Evidence indicates that Officer Tippit was at the Gloco gas station during this period. At about 1:07 p.m. — four minutes after the location request from dispatcher Jackson — witnesses at the service station saw Tippit pull out and head south on Lancaster at a high rate of speed. There were no radio transmissions broadcast on either police channel at this time that would explain Tippit’s course of action. Whatever caused J.D. Tippit to speed out of the Gloco gas station remains a mystery. Five minutes later, at about 1:11 p.m., two men claimed to have seen Tippit come into a record store in Oak Cliff. According to the store owner J.W. “Dub” Stark and his clerk, Luis G. Cortinas, Officer Tippit hurried into the Top Ten Record Shop on Jefferson at Bishop. Stark, who ran a flower shop in Oak Cliff in the mid-1980’s, said that they recognized Tippit, who used to come in to buy records. In his haste, Tippit asked several customers to step aside as he made his way to the telephone. He estimated that Tippit let the phone ring about 7 or 8 times, and without saying a word, hung up, and hustled out the front door. Clsoe quote

If the Mary Ferrell Foundation is so eager to disclose all JFK Docs, the MFF should stop tampering with documents in the first plase. CAN WE TRUST THE FERRELL FOUNDATION KK

This the Lone Nutter Max Boot, in his book " Edward Lansdale and the American tragedy in Vietnam" has to say about Oliver Stone and Fletcher Prouty. It is a bunch of claims, lies and errors. One thing: The statement that the "Churchill gang" murdered FDR is not a quote from Prouty. Let's nProuty speak for himself, quote from his book about JFK and Vietnam ...) Max Boot don't know what he is talking about, when it comes to Stone and Prouty ... KK

Eric Hunley and Mark Groubert about Mac Wallace. After a little small talk topic starts at 17min30se. WHO WAS MALCOLM "MAC" WALLACE?

Quote, TEXAS IN THE MORNING by Madeleine Duncan Brown, p. 189 ff. (Madeleine claimed staying with her lover Lyndon Johnson at the Hotel Driskill in Houston from 31.12 1963 to 1.1. 1964) "Lyndon, (said Madeleine D Brown) you know that a lot of people believe you had some­ thing to do with President Kennedy's assassination." He shot up out of the bed and began pacing and waving his arms screaming like a madman. I was scared! "That's bullshit, Madeleine Brown!" he yelled. "Don't tell me you believe that crap!" "Of course not." I answered meekly, trying to cool his tern- per. "It was Texas oil and those xxxxing renegade intelligence bas­ tards in Washington." "What are you talking about?" I asked, my eyes bulging. "Hell, that son-of-a-bitch Irish mafia Kennedy-with advice from the Invisible Govern ment-came out for suicidal cuts in the oil depletion allowance. More than two hundred eighty million dollars per year! He stopped half a dozen mergers under the anti-trust act. In '62s sag, the market dropped one hundred and thirty-seven billion xxxxing dollars. Steel fell fi fty percent, and he had the impertinence to talk about 'rollback' of prices, or worse a freeze. This was war, Madeleine, to some rich, fat cats in Texas you and I both know. He campaigned on an increased defense budget. Then he made plans to close fi fty-two military bases in twenty-fi ve states, plus twenty-fi ve overseas bases, and he was getting ready to quit in Southeast Asia. And for th e fi rst time in history, he had sent in one intelligence agency, the FBI, to dismember another agency, the CIA. America simply could not have this! "Goddamn it, Madeleine, in the last fi ft een years we've lost eight hundred million people to the Communist conspiracy-and price­ less resources and markets-and not a single Russian soldier has been killed. We're being nibbled to death in Vietnam, and now in our own hemisphere, our oil boys and the intelligence boys didn't lik e Kennedy's talk about 'disarmament' or the 'Peace Corps.' They believed that the only thing the goddamned Communists understand is power! " Close Quote

It is the judicial swamp around file sharing that swallowed this great online library ... where one could download some otherwise not available JFKA books ... there were no charges ...

@David G. Healy said I guess there are still some authentic hunting trophies out there: The original Zappi film, the Harper-fragment, Kennedy's brain ... one of the men participating in Patrice Lumumbas murder kept his dental bridge as a trophy ...

Shushkevich was a CTer. 🙂 At the end of his 2013 interview he said:

@james Di Eugenio, wrote: PLUS, believe it or not, this was the "young naiv's" Russian teacher in Minsk: https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stanislav_Shushkevich

That reminds my on some HSCA member who said: The fact that to men shot at Kennedy at the same time doesn't mean there was a conspiracy. 🙂 You can't do historiography as an aggressiv agnostic.

It's a little bit like "FAHRENHEIT 451", isn't it? Where the FBI provides the book burning firemen on behalf of a New York Judge who ordered this. Opening z-library the former biggest free library of this planet in TOR you got this message: KK The "FAHRENHEIT 451 Lady" seems Honorable Margo K. Brodie, Chief Judge of the United States District Court Eastern District of New York. I am sure she never heard of Ray Bradbury ...

@ Joe Bauer According to Judyth Baker it wasn't the NOLA public library card that put Ferrie in alarm-mode, but his (Ferries) library card from the Tulane Medical school. On Friday 22.11. 1963, after Oswalds cover was blown and Ferrie was abolut to drive to Texas to see what he could do for Oswald, Ferrie was still in phone-contact with Judyth V. Baker. Here is her account, quote from her book ME AND LEE. Quote: (ME AND LEE) Close quote KK

@Andrej Stancak: I always thought that Ferrie knew that his friend Oswald did't shot Kennedy, but blew his cover by killing Tippit ( in affect)... IMO that's the meaning of Ferries words: " ... and that it was only because Oswald had fouled up that he was killed." About Oswalds foreknowledge: According to Tosh Plumlee and Judyth Baker there not only were kill-teams in Dallas but abort teams too ... groups with the mandate to prevent the kill-teams to became operational ... IMO Oswald was infliltrating both sides ... according to Judyth Baker Oswald was part of an abort team and intended to sabotage his part in the plot if used by a kill-team ... KK

Ferrie and Shaw. A nice couple. My favourite story about the two is this. (Source Garrrison ON THE TRAIL OF THE ASSASSINS ...) quote: ... in September 1967, a man who had spent a number of evenings being courted for his services by Shaw and Ferrie found his way to my office (Garrison's) and gave an extensive statement about the pair’s activities to Jim Alcock. Edward Whalen, from Philadelphia, Pennsylvania, was a professional criminal. He had spent most of his adult life in the penitentiary. A friend he would not name got Ferrie on the phone with Whalen in early 1967 in Columbus, Ohio, where Whalen was at least temporarily “at liberty.” Ferrie asked Whalen to join him in New Orleans. Whalen learned that big money was to be made by hitting the Jung Hotel and the small jewelry store at the intersection of Baronne and Gravier streets. Whalen, having recently stolen a new car in Columbus, drove down to New Orleans. He abandoned his recent acquisition on some side street and met Ferrie at the Absinthe House on Bourbon Street. Ferrie, who was wearing his usual eye-catching second-hand threads, appeared intoxicated to Whalen. Whalen pulled up a chair and joined him at the table. Ferrie began the meeting with a discussion of his flying ability. Not a sentimental man, Whalen cut Ferrie short and said that he needed money because he was on the run from the police. Ferrie assured him that he could earn a large sum of money and, if need be, he himself would fly Whalen out of the country. In this first conversation, which lasted about half an hour, Ferrie did not tell Whalen the details of his plan. After this meeting, Whalen spent the night at an apartment provided by Ferrie. Ferrie also provided Whalen with a black Ford, a little the worse for wear, for his use while he was in town. It was agreed that the next night Whalen was to meet Ferrie and someone else at the Absinthe House. Whalen arrived at the Absinthe House first. Shortly thereafter, Ferrie arrived with another man, who was introduced as Clay Bertrand. Ferrie did most of the talking, while Whalen, sizing him up, remained silent. From time to time Ferrie referred to the other man, who from the description was obviously Clay Shaw, as Clay Bertrand. Shaw became nettled but said nothing directly to Ferrie. Upon leaving the Absinthe House, the three of them drove to Ferrie’s apartment on Louisiana Avenue Parkway, which Whalen accurately described down to the shabby furniture. There Ferrie finally got around to the point. He and Shaw wanted someone killed. Shaw was going to advance $10,000 to Whalen before the job. After it was completed, Whalen would receive another $15,000, Shaw would provide him with a phony passport, and Ferrie would fly him to Mexico. Shaw said the intended victim was going to be a witness against him for something that had been done in the past and that if this man was not stopped, Shaw would end up in the penitentiary for a long time. The victim’s name was not mentioned at this time. Whalen was wary of the deal, but he pretended to string along. Before he left, Shaw gave him $300 spending money. Whalen spent that night at a motel on Tulane Avenue. He did not use his real name on the register but could not remember the one he used. The next day Ferrie met Whalen at Moran’s restaurant. After breakfast Ferrie suggested they take a ride. While they were in the car, Ferrie asked him if he had ever heard of Jim Garrison. Whalen said he had not. Ferrie then told Whalen that Garrison was the district attorney and that this was the man they wanted killed. Now Whalen finally told Ferrie he wanted nothing to do with the deal. Ferrie attempted to talk him into going through with the plan, but Whalen refused. They parted with the agreement to meet the next night at the Absinthe House. Whalen spent that night at a motel on Airline Highway. He did not remember the name of the motel or the name under which he had registered. Whalen and Ferrie met at the Absinthe House the next night as planned. From there, they went directly to Shaw’s apartment on Dauphine Street. Whalen recalled that the apartment was on the first floor and that the interior was extremely lavish. At first only Shaw, Ferrie, and Whalen were in the apartment, and Shaw and Ferrie were trying to persuade Whalen to go through with the plan. After about a half hour, a short fat man wearing dark glasses wandered in. Shaw introduced him as Dean Andrews. Andrews and Shaw conversed for a while away from Ferrie and Whalen, and shortly thereafter Andrews left the apartment. Shaw then turned to Whalen and continued to try to persuade him. Shaw said he had done some checking on Whalen and he knew that Whalen’s daughter suffered from polio. Shaw said that if Whalen would go through with the plan, he would get Whalen’s daughter the finest medical treatment money could buy and also see to it that she was sent to college. However, Whalen insisted that he would not kill a district attorney, and he and Ferrie left. Once outside, Ferrie told Whalen he was making a mistake; Clay Bertrand, he said, could do a lot for him. Also, Ferrie spoke of Lee Oswald for the first time. He said that Bertrand had done a lot for Oswald and that it was only because Oswald had fouled up that he was killed. Oswald was an agent of the Central Intelligence Agency, Ferrie claimed, and had received money from him and Shaw at one time. Ferrie also said that they had been given “inside” information from Dean Andrews that Jim Garrison was about to start an investigation into the assassination of President Kennedy. Ferrie boasted that he had set up the assassination of Kennedy and mentioned the names of other important people he claimed to know. Whalen said he did not believe these statements, which he regarded as name-dropping in an attempt to get him to change his mind. Whalen insisted he wanted nothing to do with the plan, and he left. Except for a tendency to be vague about dates and times, Edward Whalen, in my judgment, had given a very accurate statement to Jim Alcock. Particularly persuasive to me was Whalen’s knowledge that Dean Andrews had tipped off Shaw and Ferrie about my impending investigation. At the time of Whalen’s meetings with Shaw and Ferrie, the only person outside of my immediate staff whom I had told about the investigation was none other than Dean Andrews at our memorable lunch. I was surprised to learn that I had become a target for removal. " Close quote

@ Joe Bauer: Both men pretended to be researchers and turned out to be lone-nut "Ossi did it alone" prayer mills ... I see a pattern ...

My 2 cents Posted March 25, 2017 Tunheim is another Gary Mack. quote (From a COPA article) ... it is not even funny anymore. KK

William Newman told Joshia Thompson in 1966, quote: SIX SECONS INDALLAS, by J. Thompson. Dan Rather said exact the opposite. "Foward with considerable violence." In the late 60ties, when the Zapruder film (which shows the backward motion) has been seen by a lot of people, students where mocking Dan Rather when he appeared in public by shouting: "Forward, with considerable violence ..."

IMO one should always bear in mind that all the assassination films are tampered with. These films are snippets and fragments of copies from copies blurred and cut and damaged in an odd way ...

Clint Hills memories were fading in the direction of the lone assassin ... this memory-adjustment of the eye-witness is a widespread phenomenon in the jfka ... and of course none of the headwounds-witness were shown the autopsy pics ... to refresh their memory ... to cruel to show them? But they all have seen these wounds in reality.

They took away the body, they took away the limousine, they were destroying the crime scene by letting the traffic flow just like as nothing had happened. In the very first seconds after the shooting they started sterilizazing the crime scene by collecting evidence to let it dissapeare(bullet behind curb south side Elm) and began to brainwash eyewittness in the county courts building. (Jean Hill's book:THE LAST DISSENTING WITNESS) ...to make room for their pre planned lone- nut coverstory ... ... what "they" didn't know then: By doing so they created the biggest public-relations desaster in US history ... I would say in the world.