Joe Bauer

No one can logically dismiss the reality that half a dozen, salt-of-the-Earth railroad workers on the railroad overpass looking right at the GK up to it's higher ground all said the exact same thing. They saw a "puff of smoke" drift out from the trees above the grassy area just as the shots rang out. A puff of smoke no cigarette smoker could have exhaled. Way too large and thick in it's make up. This multi-witness observation reality will always be there in the official record.

Not a researcher by any means. Side interest that has taken up years of my time in my retired years...oh for sure. Too much of my time? Debatably yes/no? From a child's age, I felt a personal connection to JFK. JFK/Jackie had connected to Americans ( especially younger ones ) more than perhaps any other modern day presidents and first ladies due to many factors. I was one such enamored young American. JFK's brutal slaying was a traumatic event for me and most of America. It was a shocking wake-up call to the harsher, darker, corrupt realities of life. What was that Guy Banister line in the Oliver Stone film JFK ... "Camelot in smitherings."? Watching Jack Ruby blow Oswald's guts out right inside the Dallas Police Department building basement while Oswald was handcuffed to two big side guards live on national TV was also traumatizing. The improbability of it all shook my sense of trust in well...so many things and ways regards life all around us. From the second Ruby blasted Oswald away...tens of millions of America instantly also felt that loss of trust. They ( like me ) felt a gut instinct that something was very wrong with the whole affair. And our government has been totally unsuccessful in relieving that sense of doubt, mistrust and suspicion in the minds of the majority of Americans for 60 years now. I've been a sideline "encourager" of the JFKA truth seeking research movement and community all my life. Much more so in my retirement years. Yelling ( posting ) support when I can. Keeping discussion and interest going in my uneducated but well meaning way. Keeping the truth seeking torch light aflame in my small way? I have always "cared" about the JFKA truth mission. Enough to toss little pebbles into the truth mission lake waters from time to time if for any reason just to keep at least some ripples going to catch people's eyes noticing them and asking...why are they there?

With massive resources and efforts we could never get Castro? Yet, lowest minimum wage book sorter Lee Harvey Oswald ( all by his angry little self ) defeats an army of JFK security and takes out JFK and almost JC using the cheapest rifle from a perch which happens to be a perfect one due to the planning of JFK motorcade route with two 90 degree turns right below him, no one watching open higher floor windows and an entire building floor available and vacated to set up his perch without notice? In a building full of workers? Then after pulling off the crime of the century he just hustles down some stairs ( stops to buy and drink a Dr. Pepper in the building lunch room ) then saunters out to get a bus and taxi... and...well Gerald Posner has it all figured out. Just dumb, innocent luck. Jack Ruby's preposterous access into the DPD basement during the highest security alert time in their history ( by a factor of 10X? ) to take out the most important criminal suspect in American history while he is handcuffed to two side guarding officers ... same thing. Case Closed. And just dismiss LBJ's interview comments to Walter Cronkite where LBJ himself says he " can't be totally sure of Oswald's motives...or others who could have been involved." 1:29NOW PLAYING LBJ Speaks on a conspiracy in JFK Murder 91K views13 years ago montycombs In September 1969, Walter Cronkite conducted an interview with former President, Lyndon B. Johnson. Cronkite asked

Greatly agree with your take Pat. "Unfortunately or fortunately" ( Trump's latest gift to the American Lexicon ) the truth is often cynical by nature of the reality of life. A continuous struggle from birth to death...oui?

What a sordid marriage. Mafia/CIA/ex-Naz** war criminals. Talk about dealing with the devil. World's richest men Texas Oil, nation wide segregationist organizations, most extreme far right military men convinced JFK was too commie, JFK fired Ex-CIA bosses, hot headed Cubans, power and position threatened by JFK - LBJ, Hoover, jilted ex-husband Cord Meyer...all tied together with one common bond... hatred of JFK and RFK to murderous level degrees. They didn't have a chance against that massive machine.

Like most baby boomers who were not born until after WWII was ended, I never really had much understanding of the true state of our nation from 1941 as it was mobilized into a massive military machine with everything geared toward one priority over all others. As were every industrialized nation on Earth we were in an all-out battle with two nations whose armies had already been so massively built up and deployed in a campaign of world domination. And these two armies had already achieved so much in that goal that one had taken over most of Europe and the other most of Southeast Asia, the Pacific islands West of Hawaii, even China itself. If not for America's massive mobilization and all-out commitment in arms and fighting forces the Japanese would have become the rulers of that huge part of the world. And with the natural resources of their conquered lands feeding their power continuously, each year they would have become even more powerful and difficult to confront. In my older age with more time to study this part of our history, I am blown away at what it took for America to turn itself into a military force so powerful it was able to confront and defeat the massive Japanese expansion effort. My appreciation for that achievement is enormous. With that, just last night I watched a History Channel episode on General Curtis LeMay. He lead the air war against Japan. His super aggressive tactics in bombing the island of Japan literally brought them to their knees. Yet, amazingly, even that kind of destruction still couldn't get their military leaders to surrender. Only the use of two atomic bombs directly upon populated regions of Japan finally undid the fanatic " fight to the last man, women and child death" grip those military mad men had on their nation. Military men like LeMay had been given enormous status, power and respect. Our victory over the Japanese made them revered hero icons. More than later generations could truly understand. Our top WWII generals and admirals were revered by most of our citizenry on levels equal to our own presidents. And they knew it. And many of them basked in that hero limelight. Their egos pumped up to levels where they felt even presidents should abide them as equals. MacArthur/Truman. Generals like LeMay as well? One can imagine what Patton would have been like in that milieu. Within 7 years we elected our top WWII general as president. 8 years later JFK changed that WWII general hero worship status situation. To the bitterest chagrin of LeMay, Lemnitzer etc. This rich kid, low level WW II Navy officer punk. How dare he tell us to stand down and do things his way. Same with the WW II heads of our vastly built-up intelligence agencies. After the "Bay Of Pigs" fiasco the spoiled rich kid punk JFK tells the CIA hierarchy Dulles, Cabel and Bissell...you're all fired!? Holy mackerel ! What was it Dulles once said about JFK? "He ( JFK ) thought he was a little God." ? Just sharing some contemplations about what seems to me to be a reasonable assessment regards the true nature of the power and respect conflict between the massive ego older WWII hero guard and JFK. Was that conflict so deeply personal it could have inspired at least some talk of a coup such as the film "Seven Days In May" portrayed? With the "Bay Of Pigs" tipping such seditious sentiment into the darkest realm possible territory? This contemplation is a common one. Just repeating it here.

And we aren't even including the bullet hole size and shape indentation in the upper inner side of the hard steel windshield frame. Which one can see was made by a projectile coming in from the general direction of the other shots. The bullet that shattered JFK's skull was fragmented into pieces much smaller than the indentation hole diameter and the other one was supposedly found on a stretcher 95% intact? Two shot sounds reported by hundreds, 3 bullet damage? Think about that for a minute Barn. Gosh, your right Andy! Oh boy...we've got a real humdinger whodunit criminal mystery right here in Mayberry!

VP...without question and debate you are truly one of the top JFKA research historical figure icons. Your hundreds of heretofore unknown JFK secret service security history facts were/are groundbreaking. As well as many other areas of JFKA related research areas such as the Parkland Hospital revelations you cite above. If there was ever a JFKA truth mission research museum built to house, display and honor it's founding fathers and most influential contributors, I could see your own wing with your bust on an entrance located pedestal. Perhaps wearing a Duquesne University ball cap and a Pittsburg brew loving lapel button? Saluto mio amico.

Excellent point. Anti-Semitism was rampant in our own country for a long, long time before and even up through WWII. Millions of Americans could care less that Hitler was brutalizing them to unfathomable degrees. Didn't we turn away thousands of them fleeing for their lives on an arriving ocean liner? Including children? Yet, we provided refuge and financial assistance to thousands of war crime committing former Na**s right after the war? Shameless hypocrisy...in the least. Didn't much of our elitist corporate and Eastern Establishment wealth set hold off fully stopping their support of Hitler in various ways only until years after millions of European Jews had already been disenfranchised, incarcerated and were already being diabolically, brutally tortured, slaughtered and cleansed from the face of the earth? Their rational being that the Jew mass murderer devil himself Hitler might be the best chance to finally removing "their biggest fear" threat...the Russian commies? Was Hitler's mass Jew slaughter given too much of a tolerating held off pass for this American wealthy higher interest threat agenda? Jews were historically treated horribly in our own country. The KKK directed their hate toward blacks and jews. I always wondered why? Was it partially because of Jewish liberalism on social issues and race? Fletcher Prouty is not "the" bad guy here. Powerful highest position American policy dictating players way beyond and above his pay grade and going back decades before Prouty's supposed post military career Jewish suffering denying deserve far more critical focus and bashing...imo anyways.

Of course I was being sarcastic DJ. Looks like you missed this as MG did earlier.

LH...will you be viewing the new movie on Oppenheimer coming out into the main theaters soon? Would like to read your review of it.

Internal bleeding must have been massive. And it seemed to me that it was an excruciating delay of time before they finally threw an unconscious Oswald into the back of one of those ridiculously small, tight space and poorly equipped 1963 ambulances compared to ones of today. And don't forget Dr. Crenshaw's account of LBJ's call to him to allow the ominous Oliver Hardy look-alike man hovering in the back of the surgical room to try to extract a confession from Oswald.

Okay MG. Just want to mention though that all of em...Republican and Democrats grab all that unethical payoff money as much as they can. They all cash in. I'm calling them "all" out on this scam. Carter only got $50,000 a talk? Guess he didn't do very many favors for the big boys downtown when he was Prez. Yeah, the Obamas live large. He golfs here at Pebble Beach and at one of the top five most exclusive clubs in the world here also...Cypress Point. Finest hotel stays. Finest restaurants. Clinton does the same thing. Now, back to the JFKA research debate!

Sounds like a Jack Ruby police buddy reunion that day in the basement. Pierce, Vaughn, Harrison, Dean...who else?

I think it's pretty obvious that huge book advance monies have often actually been laundered payoffs to political players. Huge speaking fees, same thing. Hundreds of thousands of dollars paid even before the books are publisehed and sent off to retailers and available on line? What percentage of writers get deals like that, except a very small number of proven sales great ones? And these office leaving pols are almost all not even the writers of their own books! G.W.Bush? Outrageously huge speaking fees. Now there's a scam if there ever was one. Hillary Clinton got what ... $650,000 dollars to make three little talk appearances to Goldman Sach's execs? $650,000 dollars? Enough money for a typical middle to lower class income American worker to retire on very well indeed. For just a few hours of talking? Please! Reagan pocketed 2 MILLION bucks just for making a flight to Japan and giving 3 talks there immediately following his leaving office? These speaking fee payouts are so crazily large they don't make sense. It's pretty obvious they are too large to not be looked upon with valid payoff suspicion.

Other suspicious facts to consider regards Ruby's improbable access to the basement as well as the front of the press line just when Oswald was presented so openly just feet away from him: Seconds before Ruby jumps to the press line front he's on film hiding right behind Dallas PD officer big "Blackie" Harrison. Within inches! Croy was right there as well! Just a couple of feet to Harrison's side. Of the 25 or so Dallas PD officers "who even knew Jack Ruby" according to DPD Chief Jessie Curry, big "Blackie" happened to be one of the closest PD friends of Jack Ruby for years! Blackie is seen smoking one of his signature cigars right up until he leaps to help subdue Ruby. You can still see that cigar in his mouth as he is wrestling with Jack Ruby! Security duty protocal be damned. Did anyone see any other security or even press person in that basement smoking while Oswald is being brought in? None-the-less, of all the security persons in that basement, Ruby just gets lucky in finding the one hulking police buddy to hide behind right up to his final leap who happens to be one of his most well known long time DPD friends? There was a cigarette dispensing machine near the allyway entrance to the basement. I read that Harrison used to get his cigars from that machine. Obviously he bought some before his Oswald transfer basement security duty. Who knows what to speculate about in that regards? A local TV station technical equipment crew and their van was parked right outside the front of the DPD building most all of 36 hours until Oswald was shot in the basement. If you've read their statements regarding their seeing a man whose face and build highly resembled Jack Ruby walk up and down the sidewalk there next to their van at times directly contradicting the WC's findings, they certainly sound quite believable. This man actually tapped on their van window and spoke to two of the three men. Asking about Oswald's transfer time. His face just a couple of feet away! All but a few press persons with ID were allowed on that sidewalk even hours before Oswald's transfer. The DPD made sure all others were moved to the other side of the street. A crowd had developed there which we all know about. Yet, a man fitting Ruby's description and without press ID is allowed to walk back and forth on the police cleared sidewalk up until mid-morning?

Post Hill Press. They also published Kayleigh McEnany's just released memoir. Sounds like a huge book advance front company for right wing / Trumpophant type players. Are they the ones who rewarded Kellyann Conway too? Heck, I might as well submit to them a JFKA tome pasting together God knows what from who knows who and where ( years of National Enquirer articles? ) and with a mouth agape gobsmacked title like " 11,22,1963 THE SHOCKING TRUTH ...TOP SECRET GOVERNMENT REMOTE VIEWER SEES JFK'S REAL KILLER!" and see what happens. I could sure use the dough.

Between the 2nd back shot and 3rd head shot, Oswald's scope aiming would have been in a constant micro-second state of adjustment. With JFK's head as a target, between the second and third shot JFK's head was constantly moving. In the two seconds plus time period starting with JFK being hit in the back with his fists involuntarily rising up to his throat, his then turning his head toward Jackie in agonal distress and then Jackie grabbing and pulling him close to her, JFK's head and upper body is constantly moving. The distance of JFK's upper body movement from his straight up sitting position to leaning down next to Jackie is 2 full feet. And all during JFK's 2nd to 3rd shot shifting left movement his limo is also moving farther away forward and on a downward grade to boot. That's 3 different movement dynamics of Oswald's JFK head target. Oswald had to continually adjust his scope aim for all three? And in how much time? When the top marksmen were trying to duplicate Oswald's JFK head shot...was their target moving left two feet as JFK's upper body was in the 2 seconds right before their shot, as well as the target holder moving farther away from them at a downward angle at the very same time? And remember, that right after the 2nd JFK back shot Oswald would have to eject that spent cartridge and reload another one which would have taken what...another second or two? Which meant that Oswald would have had even less time ( one second or less? ) to re-sight his scope aim. All with JFK's upper body moving 3 different ways the entire time? Like I said earlier, JFK's near bullseye head shot was a target hitting achievement for the ages. One top marksmen had a difficult time replicating even without the full 3 way JFK head and upper body movement Oswald had to adjust for and with only one stressful second to this as well.

After years of "who did it" contemplation frustration to the point of feeling it's not worth it and letting it go, I am pretty much content now with just knowing the following factual truth. America was just an incredibly corrupted nation in 1963. Way more than our history books even acknowledged and most all our citizens could even imagine. Corrupt groups and individuals had secured so much influence all the way to the highest levels of our government from cities, counties and states to the federal level. And they for sure used extreme measures to keep that power that included murder and constitutional law breaking when necessary. The Mafia had immense wealth, power and influence. Way more than reported. RFK tried to enlighten and warn America to the true extent of this threat in his book "The Enemy Within." And starting near the end of WWII our own intel agencies and military had formed a devil's pact with them when both their interests co-mingled. This just gave the Mafia more power than ever. The richest men on Earth at that time were Texas Oil barons. They would back and fund anyone who promoted their never enough wealth obsessed interest no matter their ethical standards. Some organized crime elements there as well. Extreme right groups were funded by Texas Oil. Segregationist had organized into a massive entity. Guy's like Joseph Milteer. Wealthy and super aggressive. Right wing ( war would be acceptable ) military leaders who felt JFK was soft on the threat of Communist expansion. Here is a very important fact to acknowledge. One, all these groups had immense wealth and national influence. And they were all home grown. They were all American based. And they all shared a powerful common bond. They hated JFK and RFK and probably MLK to extreme degrees as much as any foreign power did. Many of them wanted JFK and RFK dead! Their murders were celebrated by these corrupt "American" based groups. Celebrated! With millions of Americans who felt more aligned to these corrupted groups than our own constitution abiding parts of our government and society. I feel this American corruption assessment at least gives a logical foundation of the power depth reality of these JFK/RFK hating groups when considering who had the most to gain by their removal even though we may never know who actually pulled the trigger in Dealey Plaza on 11,22,1963. Great American corruption killed JFK and RFK. Those brothers underestimated the lengths and ability these evil American corrupt groups would go to and had at their disposal to stop them from threatening their grip on our nation from top to bottom. IMO anyways.

TC has done so much deep national polarizing and Trump enabling damage in his career that these fleeting thoughts of some still unsure shame now regards Trump's Brown Shirts pummeling Trump's detractors is meaningless imo. Far too little...and far too late to start giving him remorse credit empathy. Carlson's cynical divisive legacy is fixed. It may not be even possible for Fox News itself to ever rid itself of the nasal burning false news reporting for profit scandal stink they have been rightfully saddled with due to their own unethical doings.

Hillary Clinton always promoted herself as a champion of social disparity injustices. "It takes a village." Greedy, 1% wealth protecting and promoting Wall Street has always been the opposite mentality and policy agenda big bad wolf in that social injustice scenario. So it was surprising when, on Wednesday, Clinton seemed like she'd been caught off guard when asked during a CNN Democratic town hall why she had accepted $675,000 in speaking fees from Goldman Sachs. Here's the exchange between Clinton and the host, Anderson Cooper:

I haven't read "a ton" of military combat memoirs by foot soldiers who went through the true "heat of battle" experience. I have however always found TV shows and on-line stories of such very interesting and it's one of my main watching subjects. Still, I recall many accounts shared where the soldiers in these direct fire battles said they just shot their weapons at anything that moved. In a desperate self defense way. That the random barrage itself was the best thing they could think of to keep the enemy at bay. In Oswald's case...the immediate death threat enemy would have been hyper-frantic police forces who could have discovered his shooting location at any minute and come in guns a blazing to make mince meat of his person. If Oswald wasn't sweating by the time of his last JFK head shot firing after two loud location revealing ones seconds earlier...the man was a non-human "Terminator" movie robot or a brainwashed "Manchurian Candidate" ...imo anyways.

Just reread some of Marina's 1964 WC testimony regards Lee and his rifle. She mentions seeing the rifle disassembled in one of her and Lee's apartments they rented. Obviously, she knew that the rifle could be broken down like that. Just a curious admission by her imo.

MG...you missed my take. I was being absurd humor sarcastic in citing Oswald's rifle shooting practice. Marina stating Lee shot at leaves in a public park? Ridiculous. The cops would have been called in a minute seeing someone doing such. Lee going to "Lopfield" ( Love Field) to shoot his rifle? Same thing. One shot at Walker...that missed! Play aiming and shooting his rifle at home like some kid with a BB gun? I cite the disparities of Oswald's "alleged" shooting feat at JFK that defied the abilities of the top marksmen in the country. I mention the added elements of target movement, and life and death pressure stress that Oswald was most assuredly experiencing while shooting, especially during the last near bullseye shot into JFK's 8 inch wide skull. My post point was the absurdity of Oswald being the lone shooter at JFK and how he could perform shooting skills beyond those of master marksmen shooting at targets with less movement and under non-life and death fearing conditions.

Oswald did a lot of target practice in the months before 11,22,1963. In her Warren Commission testimony, Marina said he shot his rifle at leaves in park visits in New Orleans. She also said he later went to Lop Field in Dallas to practice. And he did get one practice shot at Walker. Also according to Marina, Lee would spend hours alone in their various apartments cleaning his rifle and one assumes pretend aiming and firing at imaginary targets. Oswald may have missed hitting rabbits at 10 feet away with a shotgun in Russia but he was reportedly only along for the fun time with his new Minsk buddies. Seems Oswald just didn't care about making his marksman rating while on the Marine range with Delgado...hence just going through the motions? Oswald also reportedly spent hours leafing through gun magazines in the parking garage office next to Reilly's Coffee company in New Orleans while he was supposed to be in the main production building cleaning coffee machines. His brazen neglect of his work place duties to do so ( despite Judyth Vary Baker altering his time cards ) resulted in his being canned. His downtown NO, broad daylight "Fair Play/Hands Off Cuba" leaflet passing may have also contributed to his firing. David Ferrie himself said Oswald was a poor shot? Never heard that statement before. In that Ferry and Oswald together Air Cadet camp out photo which shamed "Case Closed" book author Gerald Posner, it looks as if short statured Lee was assigned pot and pan washing duties more than rifle shooting practice. Deputy Constable Seymour Weitzman ( a gun buff/sporting goods store owner ) mis-identified the Texas School Book Depository building found rifle as a Mauser. It was many hours if not days later that he realized his mistake. He later ended up in long term confinement in a mental ward in his 50's. He was a WWII Army/Air Force combat vet and actually spent time as a prisoner of war. Surely, Post Traumatic Stress Syndrome from his prisoner of war experience could explain his mental breakdown in his 50's. Yet, could his hugely reported TXSBD found rifle misidentification screw up on 11,22,1963 have haunted his mind as well? It is very surprising that so many top world-class expert rifle marksmen mostly missed the target hits that Oswald made in a 6 and 1/2 second span. Oswald's JFK's 8 inch wide skull target bullseye hit at 265 feet away, all while JFK himself was moving his head two feet to his left and while his limo was also moving down and away was a bullseye hit for the ages. Was the target the marksmen were shooting at only 8 inches wide and moving sideways as well as away and down at 5 to 11 MPH? Unlike the JFK kill shot re-creation marksmen, Oswald's final shot was under life and death stress. Oswald was surely aware that his first 2 loud shots would probably draw some attention and looks up toward his extremely illuminated mid-day sun open window position. He knew that he could have been stormed at any second by wild-eyed gun wielding officers and been blown apart. That last shot would have been lined up and taken with as much anxiety as a combat soldier in the heat of battle and with the enemy charging in. One last second chance to change history? Talk about cojones! His sweaty hands trying to steady his defective sight aim at such a small and 3 way moving target...and hitting it within inches of dead center is one of the most remarkable target bullseye hits in history. And under life and death stress.