Ron Bulman

Reading this stunned me. When Dr. Cattell and attending nurses persisted in telling Blauer he needed the fifth injection, Blauer insisted that he did not. "Besides the last shot made me feel terrible for a week," he argued. Indeed, Institute records reveal that the fourth injection had cause Blauer great distress. "Two hours after receiving it he was trembling uncontrollably. He lay in bed for nearly two days shaking and moving his head back and forth. "I'm in an awful shape ." he told his nurse. "I feel as if something is inside my head. I don't know if I can stand it." The next step is even more so. After the reaction from the last injection why would anyone in their right mind increase the dosage, on a Human Being, by 16X? Experiment be Damned. Under the protocol Dr. (Paul) Hoch (I'm not kidding) designed for the experiments, the fifth injection of 450 mg of EA 1298, which Blauer received was sixteen times greater than his previous injections.

Regarding Lee Bowers, Belzer and Wayne reference David Perry's article "Now It Can Be Told: The Lee Bowers Story", who admits Texas Department of Public Safety aka The Highway Patrol Officer Charles Good "claims" to have investigated the accident, and concluded his friend Lee Bowers had been run off the road, into a bridge abutment. They also reference John Simkins Spartacus biography of Lee Bowers. From it. On 9th August, 1966, Lee Bowers was killed when his car left the road and crashed into a concrete abutment in Midlothian, Texas. Robert J. Groden later reported "Lee Bowers was heading west here on highway sixty-seven heading from Midlothian down to Cleburne and according to an eyewitness he was driven off the road by a black car. Drove him into this bridge abutment. He didn't die immediately, he held on for four hours and during that time he was talking to the ambulance people and told them that he felt he had been drugged when he stopped for coffee back there a few miles in Midlothian." (2) Anthony Summers, The Kennedy Conspiracy (1980). Lee Bowers was questioned by the Warren Commission but was cut off in mid-sentence when he began describing the "something out of the ordinary" he had seen. The interrogating lawyer changed the subject. (Ball). (5) Robert J. Groden, High Treason (1989)

Harold Blauer died January 8, 1953, at the age of forty-two, at the New York State Psychiatric Institute . . . a professional tennis player was, suffering from depression due to a failed marriage. Harold had known his wife Amy since childhood and they had been married seventeen years before separating. When Amy had flown to Mexico to obtain the divorce, Harold had fallen into a state of depression. He felt that divorce was tantamount to failure, and he was deeply concerned about the welfare of his two daughters. As his depression deepened, Harold was unable to sleep or eat. He lost all interest in work and grew increasingly despondent. His personal physician recommended he go to New York's Bellevue Hospital for psychiatric evaluation and help. After five weeks in Bellevue, Blauer was responding well to treatment . . . they had him moved to the New York State Psychiatric Institute (anticipating his release). Amy had returned from Mexico. She was quite concerned about Harold and had been visiting him in the hospital almost every day. Indeed, to many friends and family members, the couple appeared as if they were on the verge of reconciliation. Unknown to Harold and Amy Blauer in 1953, the NYSPI was conducting aggressive psychopharmacology experiments on patients without their consent. The day before Harold Blauer was to be discharged from NYSPI and return home, he was given an injection of a highly potent experimental mescaline derivative code-named EA-1928 by the Army's Chemical Corps. The drug had been concocted in the laboratories of Camp Detrick's SOD which since October 1952 had been under the direction of Dr. Frank Olson. NYSPI records reveal that Blauer attempted to refuse injection because four previous injections of the drug had made him extremely uncomfortable and frightened. Notes made by Dr. James P Cattel, NYSPI senior research psychiatrist and the psychiatrist who injected Blauer with the fatal dose as well as the previous four injections, reveal that Blauer was "very apprehensive" about receiving the fifth injection and that considerable persuasion [was] required" to make him accept. Additionally, Cattel's notes reveal that before the fourth injection, Blauer told the doctor he did not want to receive any additional shots, but that his protests were ignored. There is no evidence Blauer gave written consent, not required in the early 1950's. "no idea that he was being usesd a guinea pig" . . . When Dr. Cattell and attending nurses persisted in telling Blauer he needed the fifth injection, Blauer insisted that he did not. "Besides the last shot made me feel terrible for a week," he argued. Indeed, Institute records reveal that the fourth injection had cause Blauer great distress. "Two hours after receiving it he was trembling uncontrollably. He lay in bed for nearly two days shaking and moving his head back and forth. "I'm in an awful shape ." he told his nurse. "I feel as if something is inside my head. I don't know if I can stand it." Blauer continued to protest as nurses readied him for his fifth injection. Under the protocol Dr. (Paul) Hoch (I'm not kidding) designed for the experiments, the fifth injection of 450 mg of EA 1298, which Blauer received was sixteen times greater than his previous injections. I'm fine now, Blauer told Cattell. I'm going home tomorrow. I don't need to be given anything. Despite this the fifth injection was administered. Within seconds, Blauer became highly agitated. He began sweating profusely, his legs and arms flailing wildly. Attendants were summoned to restrain him. Within three minutes of the injection his body stiffened grotesquely, as though he had been electrically shocked. Thick froth poured from his mouth, covering his chin and throat. Approximately thirty minutes later he began convulsing and the lapsed into a coma. He died one hour later. The NYC medical examiner determined "a therapeutic drug admistered that aggravated a previously undetected heart problem." Amy Blauer was informed of his demise in about an hour. Troubled by little information, she sued. "Government attorneys then raised the settlement offer to $18,000." Amy and he two daughters received about $10,000. $115,500 today. "and they still didn't learn a thing about the true facts surrounding Harold Blauer's death or the USA's involvement int it." Pg's 162-165, A Terrible Mistake, Hank Albarelli. For the forums resident psychiatrist Dr Niederhut and others.

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Losing a child is a tragic experience, for the whole family. As I can attest to.

What's your point Gerry. All his work is worthless, just a side interest? Jim can defend himself quite well. For your benefit and that of others this is what I think I know. He's been researching the assassination, initially Garrison since the early 1990's. Involved in the film JFK. He has a masters in US History or Political Science and has taught about such at the college level. Edited a quarterly paper on the subject in the late 1990's. Wrote The Assassinations with Lisa Pease, then Destiny Betrayed, Reclaiming Parkland, then the whole Oliver Stone Documentarie(s).

Well I'll be durned. I mentioned not knowing how Jim Reeves related, so I went back and re-read that section. Seems he knew Jack Ruby through Dewey Groom, of the Long Horn Ballroom (where I saw Charlie Daniels in the late 1980's). He said he also knew Oswald, telling friends about this after Ruby shot him. Other suspicion about Reeves as a government courier, he piloted his own plane which crashed in Nashville, suspicion about the crash. Belzer and Wayne conclude, Possible Sabotage, currently unclear if linked to the JFK Assassination. Way before MTV, an old favorite from one of my dad's 8-track's.

I think it has limited use as a point of reference. Some of the summations I've not seen elsewhere, some the relevance is questionable (Jim Reeves), a few are several pages, many less. I thought the one on Lee Bowers was pretty concise no longer than it is. Plus, they counter Dave Perry and Posner in the process. I think it's been discussed on the forum before, and I've probably read about it elsewhere, but the part on the six top former FBI agents dying in six months before scheduled HSCA testimony is better than I remember reading anywhere else. Too coincidental, especially three by heart attack, which can be simulated. William Sullivan's self-predicted accidental hunting accident death is very questionable, never properly investigated. I don't remember reading the detail on Hank Killam elsewhere.

That was Hank Killam, husband of Wanda who was a stripper for Jack Ruby. He reportedly knew Oswald and that Oswald knew Ruby. Officially he fell or jumped through a plate glass window as you say, and it slit his throat cutting the carotid artery. At 4:30 in the morning, blood found 4-5' inside the building, he was found 50' away on the pavement. Ruled a suicide, then an accident. More detail in the book. He was running, knew he would be killed for what he knew. Told others so.

No, we can't Cliff and Jim, can we? The entrance wound at T-3 invalidates the Magic bullet. It was not the source of an exit wound in the throat. Which was also an entrance wound in reality. Since it didn't go through JFK and wound Connally, that means, with even if only A shot to JFK's head, it was a Conspiracy, Four shots at least. T-3. The throat. JFK's head wound(s). Connally. Should we throw in Tague here and a miss?

Another name on the list I was surprised at I mentioned in the original thread was Dr. William Joseph Bryan. I still wonder how he might be connected to the JFKA but am not surprised that he could have been. I'm familiar with him primarily from Lias Pease's "A Lie Too Big To Fail", about the RFKA as most know. I think nine pages about or related to him in it. A few samples from it. "someone could be hypnotized to do something against their will. Two frequent media voices on this point included one person who has long been associated with the CIA' mind control programs: Dr. Martin T. Orne. The other was Dr. William J. Bryan, who told prostitutes he worked for the CIA. Bryan, then president of the American Institute of Hypnosis and living in Los Angeles was even more emphatic on this matter: "The instant a hypnotist suggests something contrary to your moral code, the rapport between you will be broken. You'll snap out of the trance." (reporter) Shaw added Bryan became infuriated at the notion that someone could be made to do something against their will under hypnosis: "I'm the best hypnotist in the world," he shouts. "Don't you think I'd hypnotize me a bank president and make him give me a couple of million dollars if I could?" Beyond any possible CIA motive, Bryan 's comments were also provably self-serving. Just three months later, Bryan was placed on probation by the California State Board of Medical Examiners "after having been found guilty of having sexual relations" with four women he had hypnotized." That's rape folks, he should have went to prison. He later told two of his regular hookers (per the FBI (?), I think) that he had hypnotized Sirhan. He had no contact with Sirhan after the RFKA. Even though he was the best in the world, they brought in a guy from San Fran Frisco. A little fishy? Again, I don't doubt the possibility, but any evidence of how he might be connected to the JFKA? As an aside. I don't remember the name of Dr. Jolyon West on the list. He might warrant consideration. CIA also, see OD'ing the elephant on LSD in OKC. Drove or flew down to volunteer his services immediately regarding Ruby after he shot Oswald. Judge Joe Brown refused the Dean of the OU Psychiatry Program (with no teaching experience himself). After Ruby's trial he fired all but one, an attorney/psychiatrist for his appeal. Who immediately brought in Jolyon West to see Ruby. Who then had a mental breakdown, per West and others.

It's hard to tell with Mick a lot of the time but switch he for she in this song (my wife insists he's gay (so what if he is?), I re-explain, no, he may be bisexual but he's had multiple female wives and children by them). Anyway the key related line is "no one will ever know."

Yes, I've read of the phones not working in Washington in particular immediately or shortly after the assassination. Not sure where I read such. Maybe Dallas too, even say NYC? It seems like one explanation afterwards was so many people were calling each other over the JFKA it jammed up/overloaded the lines. IDK if that was a possibility in 1963 or not. Larry Hancock probably would, he's an expert on telephone systems as a former employee in that field.

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From my post on the other thread about this, about the first guy on the list. IDK if this was under Tech/Log but bingo. Secret Service Second in command. Paul Paterni, I've suspected for many years now. For good reason. The chain of command may have been skipped through. Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon, in turn head of The SS then, Paterni, Emory Roberts. Maybe one more in between, a few others aware. Roberts, Rybka at Love Field, the lead press car, Agent Ready stepping off the running board during the shooting - get back on. Much more. I'd forgotten, Paterni started with the SS in the 1930's, while still in it in WWII he was OSS. Serving in Italy with James Jesus Angleton. So, if he was used to alter SS protection it could been lateral, straight from Angleton or vertical from Dillon. I lean to Angleton, they could leave Dillon out of that loop. Someone had to plan the security stripping in advance, it was not happenstance. Either way, one degree of separation from Allen Dulles.

Leslie, you know this better than I, as this is from your essay "Caretaker Analysis" in Coup in Dallas. You did allude to this a while back in another thread, but I don't think others out there are aware of his family ties, I.E. two of his three brothers. "His (oldest) brother, Harold G. Odum, was a well-known Presbyterian minister in San Angelo, Texas, from 1967 to his retirement in 1986 . . . , who spent weeks at a time on an annual basis proselytizing in Russa," Regarding younger brother Arthur: "According to Arthur's 2017 obituary, "At the height of the Cold War, with the Cuban missile crisis barely in the rearview mirror, The President of the United States was looking for a person to administer a highly classified interagency intelligence-sharing program. After careful consideration, the President appointed a young, up and coming United States Foreign Service officer who had just returned from a State Department assignment in Venezuela. . . . Prior to entering the Foreign Service, Arthur, had served four years in the US Navy as custodian of classified intelligence on Soviet nuclear capabilities . . . Arthur quickly impressed the intelligence community in Washington with his ability to serve as the intelligence liaison between the director of the CIA, the Secretary of Defense and the White House. . . . The moment Arthur departed Venezuela for D.C., he was immersed in Russian language training, presumably a skill set required for his new, highly classified intelligence-sharing assignment. . Details of that assignment remain elusive, however, we do know that Arthur eventually joined Ambassador Llewellyn Thompson for Thompson's second stint in Moscow. In a twist of fate, it was under Ambassador Thompson's watch in 1962 that Marina Oswald had been issued a passport to emigrate with Lee to the US. Thompson was called to testify before the Warren Commission, shining additional light on Oswald's time in the Soviet Union. Arthur's brother, AS Bard Odum, who was on the ground in Dallas at the time of the assassination, was not." Pgs. 520-522, CID.

Ditto.

Joe, I'm not sure what the wink means, a joke? Robert's work is very comprehensive, some may think overly so. I'm still open about much of it.

Ha, W. I'm certainly no scientist, though I know a few. Nor a philosopher, though I passed the initial course. But the Warren Commision is the ultimate theory to have been refuted by facts in history imho. The Magic Pristine bullet, Ruby no underworld contacts, much more. Who can prove Oswald guilty or completely innocent? Then again, have the scientists or philosophers (I believe in the work of both) ever proven, which came first, the chicken or the egg? Or, if a tree falls in a forest . . . well, that one could be proven with a pretty simple experiment now days if it hasn't already.

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I'm sorry to see Robert delete his post and apparently leave again. I too had questions I hoped to ask, hoping he'd have a little more information on some on the list. There are a lot of people on the list I've read of, some in some depth. Several people on it I've never heard of, which doesn't mean much. I've never claimed to be a researcher myself. The only files I've dug in are on line, not a lot of that compared to many. I have been to Dealy Plaza multiple times. Walked all over it, GK, parking lot/tower. Over the overpass. Up the other side to where Ruby reportedly watched it. Anyway, I saw the thread and began reading the list(s). Seeing its length, I began scanning it. I was stunned by the scope and the people I didn't know of. I went back later and re read most of the names on the lists and the short descriptions of their positions/service and made a few notes. Then I was going to re-read it one more time in even greater depth before posting, but it was gone. From my limited notes. Technological/Logistics. Right off the bat, bam. Dr. William Joseph Bryan, known to me via the RFKA, possibly involved in hypnotizing Sirhan. Previously somehow involved in the JFKA? Not unbelievable to me but how? Then there's Ruby, who I've thought probably was a facilitator in some capacity before the assassination for a few years now. Adding in Paul Roland Jones and Lewis McWillie surprised me initially, but not so much after thinking about it (rides/ routes/safehouses/more). Then Alexandar Haig, in 1963. IDK about him then. Krulak? How, I know he was in a position to do such, but how? Irwin Weiner, mob . . .? money? IDK if this was under Tech/Log but bingo. Secret Service Second in command. Paul Paterni, I've suspected for many years now. For good reason. The chain of command may have been skipped through. Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillon, in turn head of The SS then, Paterni, Emory Roberts. Maybe one more in between, a few others aware. Roberts, Rybka at Love Field, the lead press car, Agent Ready stepping off the running board during the shooting - get back on. Much more. Under planners, many here many here might suspect. Dulles, Bissell, LeMay, Lemnitzer, Crichfield, Willoughby, Helms, Harvey. A few more some might not suspect, Lodge, Gottlieb (how?), Sheffield Edwards, Esterline, Bill Bundy. Then we get to Prescott Bush (not a stretch for me), Averill Harriman, and Nixon(?). Under Cover Up/Mass Media. Hal Hendrix, but not Hugh Aynesworth or did I miss him? Several others could be included here. Prouty? and yes of course, James Jesus Angleton with his connections. A few names I've read of but don't really remember/know anything about. Mario Kohly, Charles Nonte, Red Dorfman - mob? Harold Metzler surprised me. As did George Hunter White, but not really after thinking about it. I understand this is too much for many to wrap their heads around. I wonder about how many more mentioned may have been involved, and in fact of those mentioned here in several cases, how?

Yeah, we hit 93 here I think it was last Tuesday. In February! That blew my mind. Makes me wonder about July-August-September. More records to be broken?

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W, I also agree it was a coalition. But who at what level? The CIA and Military on an operational level, assets of theirs? Above them? Wall Street. David Rockefeller (Dulles still worked for him), the Chairman John J. McCloy, Secretary of the Treasury C. Douglas Dillion, many more. Angleton still in effect worked for Dulles. More later.

Yes sir. Decker reportedly told Walthers to take them to Fritz/Curry/the DPD, he wanted nothing to do with them. The SS was working with the DPD that night. They knew what to do with them.