Joe Bauer Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 (edited) I have mentioned my surprise that this non-JFK thread has been allowed to stay on the forum as long it is has, but at the same time very appreciative because it gives us inherently political minded members at least one thread outlet to express our current political concerns along with our main JFK truth focus one. A nice "one thread" break balance if you will? With that in mind, I am certainly not advocating starting any more non-JFK threads. However, staying in this one thread, I want to at least bring up the incredibly world effecting and American news dominating coronavirus situation. I live in California. The effect this reported threat is having in our daily lives here ( even at this earliest stage ) is incredible and I think way beyond what most Americans know or imagine. I listen to radio news almost constantly when I am not home at the computer. My radio listening is confined to the largest audience 24 hour news station in Northern Calif. KCBS out of San Francisco. Expert commentary regards the most pressing news stories is a 24 hour part of the KCBS format. These commentators on the coronavirus situation are already suggesting the public consider major life style changes such as stocking up on basic need items, avoiding plane travel, avoiding attending public events and even social functions of more than a few people, and even keeping an open mind to pulling your children from school and home schooling them if the situation gets too bad ! There are so many other areas of concern I don't want to mention them to keep from scare mongering. There are so many cancellations of conventions and other large crowd venues in the Bay Area it is unprecedented. Calif. and San Francisco in particular are so dependent on tourism and large group convention business that their income revenue if this continues has to be hit hard on levels that we have never seen before. Tourism from China to Calif. over the last 20 years has grown to huge numbers. This has stopped completely. Every aspect of the hospitality industry in Calif. is already economically effected by this loss alone. The potential of devastating economic damage is real and judging from what we are already seeing in real life terms at just this early scared stage is ominous. How this is going to play out in the national political arena is the big question. One that none of us participating in this thread content can ignore or pretend isn't the big elephant in the room anymore. Edited February 29, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 Trump Makes Us Ill Going viral is not a good thing this time. By Maureen Dowd Opinion Columnist - The New York Times Feb. 29, 2020, 2:30 p.m. ET President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence at a news conference Wednesday about the coronavirus.Credit...Carlos Barria/Reuters Donald Trump was right. Germs are scary. For three decades, I talked to Trump about his fear of germs. When I interviewed him at the Trump Tower restaurant during the 2016 race, the famous germophobe had a big hospital-strength bottle of hand sanitizer on the table, next to my salad, ready to squirt. He told me about the nightmarish feeling he had when a man emerged from the bathroom in a restaurant with wet hands and shook his hand. He couldn’t eat afterward. Today, in a stunning twist of fate, germs are infecting his presidency and threatening a bad prognosis for his re-election prospects. Trump is the first president to use the stock market as a near-daily measure of his success — and his virility — and now the market is slumping. If you want to own it on the way up, you have to own it on the way down. Investors, who worried when Trump began to rise in politics, soon realized that he had their backs. He was just a corporate vessel pretending to be a populist; the stock market was his sugar high. Now Trump is learning the hard way what my fatalistic Irish mother taught me: The thing you love most is the first to go. As Mike Bloomberg points out, investors have factored in Trump’s incompetence, and that is contributing to the market cratering. The president urged the Fed to do something soon to mitigate the stock market losses. Socialism for the rich! The scaremonger in chief has been downplaying the possibility of a coronavirus pandemic and joining Fox News hosts in accusing the “anti-Trump” media and “Do Nothing Democrats” of scaremongering about the virus. At the CPAC convention, Mick Mulvaney told a cheering crowd that impeachment was the “hoax of the day” and now the press thinks the coronavirus “is going to be what brings down the president.” The media, he said, should spend more time on positive stories, like the president’s “caring” relationship with his teenage son, Barron, even though White Houses usually frown on stories about young presidential offspring. Mike Huckabee went on the attack, asserting that Trump “could personally suck the virus out of every one of the 60,000 people in the world, suck it out of their lungs, swim to the bottom of the ocean and spit it out, and he would be accused of pollution for messing up the ocean.” On Fox, Don Jr. said the Democrats “seemingly hope” the virus kills millions to stop Trump’s winning streak. Rush Limbaugh chimed in that the media “would love for the coronavirus to be this deadly strain that wipes everybody out so they could blame Trump for it.” There are 2,800 dead worldwide and disturbing stories showing how federal criteria delayed the diagnosis of a California woman and how federal health employees interacted with Americans who had possibly been exposed to the virus in China without proper training or gear. Yet Trump seems more consumed with how the Democrats might blame him for a coronavirus recession than with the virus itself. Trump had tweet-shrieked at President Barack Obama about how he should handle Ebola. (“Obama should apologize to the American people & resign!”) Yet he was so relaxed about the coronavirus threat that he spent 45 minutes Thursday chatting in the Oval with the authors of a little play called “FBI Lovebirds: Undercovers,” inspired by the texts of Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. The play’s leads, Dean Cain of “Superman” fame and the “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” actress Kristy Swanson, were also in the meeting. Trump joked that he’d be willing to be Cain’s understudy, the actor said. The president got together the same day with a group that included his social media boosters Diamond and Silk. At the White House press conference, Trump preened: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low.” He later said that one day, like a miracle, the virus “will disappear.” His top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, pushed the crisis as an opportunity: “Stocks look pretty cheap to me.” Trump won’t be able to deflect and project and create a daft alternative narrative. The virus won’t respond to conspiracy theories from Rush Limbaugh or nasty diatribes from Sean Hannity or nicknames from Donald Trump. This will be a deus ex machina test of Trump’s authoritarian behavior. Epidemics are not well suited to authoritarian regimes and propaganda, as we saw this week when Beijing’s use of propaganda tactics to suppress information about the outbreak failed spectacularly and when Iran tamped down news about the virus for political reasons even as it ravaged top officials. The reality of the coronavirus spreading will reflect poorly on Trump — his cavalier dismantling of vital government teams for health response and his disdain for experts and science. Trump tried to make federal agencies complicit on his fabulist hogwash about the size of his inaugural crowd and the path of Hurricane Dorian. It is unlikely that he will be able to keep his insatiable and insecure ego in check long enough to give the nation the facts, reassurance and guidance it needs about the infection. Trump is already doing his orange clown pufferfish routine, acting as though he knows more about viruses than anyone, just as he has bragged that he knows more about the military, taxes, trade, infrastructure, ISIS, renewables, visas, banking, debt and “the horror of nuclear.” He appointed Mike Pence to be point man, even though, as the famously homophobic governor of Indiana, Pence helped make the H.I.V. epidemic there worse by substituting moral pronouncements for scientific knowledge. Coronavirus Czar Pence spent Friday at a $25,000-a-plate dinner in sunny Sarasota raising money to try to win back the House, The Tampa Bay Times reported. Trump’s history in business — he makes people feel good for a while and then it ends badly — could presage a stock market crash before he exits. And it’s conceivable that a crash — along with hospitals being overwhelmed by the uninsured — could lead to the election of a real populist promising Medicare for All. 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Joe Bauer Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 9 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said: Trump Makes Us Ill Trumps team just held a nationally televised damage control press conference to first: milk the Afghanistan withdrawal for political gain and secondly to present an image of great achievement in the area of coronavirus control and prevention and downplaying it's seriousness in the area of death count. Still, Trump couldn't help his inflaming political attacking self in defending and repeating his Hoax charge against the Democrats. That their blaming of him and others in his administration of mishandling this crisis, and the dem. leaning media reporting this ... is the hoax. He politicizes this crisis at the same time he says that only the Democrats are doing this. And he stated that the Fed will do whatever it takes to salvage the current Stock Market landlside. Meaning, they will do this to keep his number one political gain bragging point alive and relevant versus a negative in his run for re-election. You know Trump...whatever it takes ... for him to WIN! 9 minutes ago, Douglas Caddy said: Going viral is not a good thing this time. By Maureen Dowd Opinion Columnist - The New York Times Feb. 29, 2020, 2:30 p.m. ET President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence at a news conference Wednesday about the coronavirus.Credit...Carlos Barria/Reuters Donald Trump was right. Germs are scary. For three decades, I talked to Trump about his fear of germs. When I interviewed him at the Trump Tower restaurant during the 2016 race, the famous germophobe had a big hospital-strength bottle of hand sanitizer on the table, next to my salad, ready to squirt. He told me about the nightmarish feeling he had when a man emerged from the bathroom in a restaurant with wet hands and shook his hand. He couldn’t eat afterward. Today, in a stunning twist of fate, germs are infecting his presidency and threatening a bad prognosis for his re-election prospects. Trump is the first president to use the stock market as a near-daily measure of his success — and his virility — and now the market is slumping. If you want to own it on the way up, you have to own it on the way down. Investors, who worried when Trump began to rise in politics, soon realized that he had their backs. He was just a corporate vessel pretending to be a populist; the stock market was his sugar high. Now Trump is learning the hard way what my fatalistic Irish mother taught me: The thing you love most is the first to go. As Mike Bloomberg points out, investors have factored in Trump’s incompetence, and that is contributing to the market cratering. The president urged the Fed to do something soon to mitigate the stock market losses. Socialism for the rich! The scaremonger in chief has been downplaying the possibility of a coronavirus pandemic and joining Fox News hosts in accusing the “anti-Trump” media and “Do Nothing Democrats” of scaremongering about the virus. At the CPAC convention, Mick Mulvaney told a cheering crowd that impeachment was the “hoax of the day” and now the press thinks the coronavirus “is going to be what brings down the president.” The media, he said, should spend more time on positive stories, like the president’s “caring” relationship with his teenage son, Barron, even though White Houses usually frown on stories about young presidential offspring. Mike Huckabee went on the attack, asserting that Trump “could personally suck the virus out of every one of the 60,000 people in the world, suck it out of their lungs, swim to the bottom of the ocean and spit it out, and he would be accused of pollution for messing up the ocean.” On Fox, Don Jr. said the Democrats “seemingly hope” the virus kills millions to stop Trump’s winning streak. Rush Limbaugh chimed in that the media “would love for the coronavirus to be this deadly strain that wipes everybody out so they could blame Trump for it.” There are 2,800 dead worldwide and disturbing stories showing how federal criteria delayed the diagnosis of a California woman and how federal health employees interacted with Americans who had possibly been exposed to the virus in China without proper training or gear. Yet Trump seems more consumed with how the Democrats might blame him for a coronavirus recession than with the virus itself. Trump had tweet-shrieked at President Barack Obama about how he should handle Ebola. (“Obama should apologize to the American people & resign!”) Yet he was so relaxed about the coronavirus threat that he spent 45 minutes Thursday chatting in the Oval with the authors of a little play called “FBI Lovebirds: Undercovers,” inspired by the texts of Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. The play’s leads, Dean Cain of “Superman” fame and the “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” actress Kristy Swanson, were also in the meeting. Trump joked that he’d be willing to be Cain’s understudy, the actor said. The president got together the same day with a group that included his social media boosters Diamond and Silk. At the White House press conference, Trump preened: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low.” He later said that one day, like a miracle, the virus “will disappear.” His top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, pushed the crisis as an opportunity: “Stocks look pretty cheap to me.” Trump won’t be able to deflect and project and create a daft alternative narrative. The virus won’t respond to conspiracy theories from Rush Limbaugh or nasty diatribes from Sean Hannity or nicknames from Donald Trump. This will be a deus ex machina test of Trump’s authoritarian behavior. Epidemics are not well suited to authoritarian regimes and propaganda, as we saw this week when Beijing’s use of propaganda tactics to suppress information about the outbreak failed spectacularly and when Iran tamped down news about the virus for political reasons even as it ravaged top officials. The reality of the coronavirus spreading will reflect poorly on Trump — his cavalier dismantling of vital government teams for health response and his disdain for experts and science. Trump tried to make federal agencies complicit on his fabulist hogwash about the size of his inaugural crowd and the path of Hurricane Dorian. It is unlikely that he will be able to keep his insatiable and insecure ego in check long enough to give the nation the facts, reassurance and guidance it needs about the infection. Trump is already doing his orange clown pufferfish routine, acting as though he knows more about viruses than anyone, just as he has bragged that he knows more about the military, taxes, trade, infrastructure, ISIS, renewables, visas, banking, debt and “the horror of nuclear.” He appointed Mike Pence to be point man, even though, as the famously homophobic governor of Indiana, Pence helped make the H.I.V. epidemic there worse by substituting moral pronouncements for scientific knowledge. Coronavirus Czar Pence spent Friday at a $25,000-a-plate dinner in sunny Sarasota raising money to try to win back the House, The Tampa Bay Times reported. Trump’s history in business — he makes people feel good for a while and then it ends badly — could presage a stock market crash before he exits. And it’s conceivable that a crash — along with hospitals being overwhelmed by the uninsured — could lead to the election of a real populist promising Medicare for All. 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Jeff Carter Posted February 29, 2020 Share Posted February 29, 2020 3 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: Expert commentary regards the most pressing news stories is a 24 hour part of the KCBS format. These commentators on the coronavirus situation are already suggesting the public consider major life style changes such as stocking up on basic need items, avoiding plane travel, avoiding attending public events and even social functions of more than a few people, and even keeping an open mind to pulling your children from school and home schooling them if the situation gets too bad ! Apocalyptic fear-mongering is entirely irresponsible. A rational systematic approach such as currently practiced by South Korea can successfully contain the outbreak and provide proper medical attention for those unfortunately afflicted. Has the "expert commentary" discussed successful containment strategies? The issue for the U.S. is how to provide testing to identify those who will need to be quarantined and treated without infecting others. Recognizing there will be economic factors inhibiting persons from seeking out the test - such as being unable to afford the test in the first place (a $3200 bill handed to a man in Florida), unable to withstand a quarantine period without facing ruin, or undocumented persons who will avoid testing in fear of being deported - needs to be addressed immediately. Offering, at the least, subsidized testing, assistance to those facing quarantine, and promises not to deport the undocumented is in the best interests of everyone as a contained outbreak will consume far less resources than a situation out of control. Are the "expert commentators" addressing that? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted February 29, 2020 Author Share Posted February 29, 2020 This is another reason we keep this thread alive: https://www.bing.com/videos/search?view=detail&mid=0B214B2753A17A38E5ED0B214B2753A17A38E5ED&shtp=Facebook&shid=d613813e-83cc-4f32-9bb8-c4b43530d0f7&shtk=Sm9obiBGIEtlbm5lZHkgYXJndWVzIGZvciB1bml2ZXJzYWwgaGVhbHRoY2FyZQ%3D%3D&shdk=SkZLIG1ha2VzIGFuIGFyZ3VtZW50IGZvciB1bml2ZXJzYWwgaGVhbHRoIGNhcmUgYXQgTWFkaXNvbiBzcXVhcmUgZ2FyZGVuLCBOWS4%3D&shhk=1PDIln0CUyOThQkPuGlYLOaNBascwLiecjGtLCfeIsY%3D&form=VDSHFB&shth=OSH.xMmKbosRBuwueKDU3k4vEw&fbclid=IwAR2jbwXzF1DTNbAN6l8E6XvDhxuZWLrYcgmqqEzIaOfBZc9Sp7nhV8pn53k And to this day, we do not have it. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 BTW, Bernie's ads in California feature JFK. Except its the moon speech. Does anyone have any in with him? They should be about universal healthcare. The results today were predictable. The one surprise was how bad Warren did. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 Really interesting posts. Thanks Jim for the memories. The hype on Corona is enormous. Is it really so dangerous? Or is the danger as Jeff says insufficient government action? The latter surely. But the hype has me worried. The effects of over dramatic and non factual fear mongering could be huge. As Joe says, we have 24/7 news coverage which is in danger of, perhaps already fueling a public reaction that is worse by far than the disease itself. A friend of mine said today that Wall Street hates uncertainty. About what? The spread of a pathogen that is not particularly deadly? Or the overreaction to the threat? Wall Street loves a correction, and they got one. Something about this story smells bad. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 I tend to agree with that Paul. News: Steyer is out. We are down to one billionaire. Except its the one with way more billions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 12 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: I tend to agree with that Paul. News: Steyer is out. We are down to one billionaire. Except its the one with way more billions. That's the thing about Bloomberg-- the guy is so immensely wealthy that his fortune dwarfs that of minor GOP plutocrats like Trump and his Mar-a-Lago massage parlor buddies. He seems to be running primarily to defeat the progressives-- Sanders and Warren. Andrew Yang told CNN recently that Bloomberg has been calling his fellow tycoons and telling them to stop donating to any money to Democratic presidential candidates. I'm wondering if Bloomberg is planning to pull a Ross Perot and run as a third party candidate this year if he loses the Democratic nomination. Meanwhile, the Democratic establishment and the corporate media moguls are trumpeting Joe Biden's South Carolina primary win bigly, as predicted-- as if Democrats should be impressed by the primary in a Red Hat state that will vote overwhelmingly for Il Douche in November, and where Repubs are allowed to vote in the Democratic primary. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 The turnout in South Carolina is near 2008 totals — north of a half million. Good sign for Dems. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 Isn't that hysterical William? This was the first state to break away from the union. Its always been the heart and soul of the Lost Cause myth. Remember Fort Sumter and all of that? And somehow this is supposed to be significant? Biden's first primary win in three tries? Please. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 3 hours ago, Paul Brancato said: Really interesting posts. Thanks Jim for the memories. The hype on Corona is enormous. Is it really so dangerous? Or is the danger as Jeff says insufficient government action? The latter surely. But the hype has me worried. The effects of over dramatic and non factual fear mongering could be huge. As Joe says, we have 24/7 news coverage which is in danger of, perhaps already fueling a public reaction that is worse by far than the disease itself. A friend of mine said today that Wall Street hates uncertainty. About what? The spread of a pathogen that is not particularly deadly? Or the overreaction to the threat? Wall Street loves a correction, and they got one. Something about this story smells bad. Inside Trump’s frantic attempts to minimize the coronavirus crisis http://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/inside-trumps-frantic-attempts-to-minimize-the-coronavirus-crisis/ar-BB10zgPE?li=BBnb7Kz&ocid=UE07DHP Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 9 hours ago, Douglas Caddy said: Trump Makes Us Ill Going viral is not a good thing this time. By Maureen Dowd Opinion Columnist - The New York Times Feb. 29, 2020, 2:30 p.m. ET President Trump and Vice President Mike Pence at a news conference Wednesday about the coronavirus.Credit...Carlos Barria/Reuters Donald Trump was right. Germs are scary. For three decades, I talked to Trump about his fear of germs. When I interviewed him at the Trump Tower restaurant during the 2016 race, the famous germophobe had a big hospital-strength bottle of hand sanitizer on the table, next to my salad, ready to squirt. He told me about the nightmarish feeling he had when a man emerged from the bathroom in a restaurant with wet hands and shook his hand. He couldn’t eat afterward. Today, in a stunning twist of fate, germs are infecting his presidency and threatening a bad prognosis for his re-election prospects. Trump is the first president to use the stock market as a near-daily measure of his success — and his virility — and now the market is slumping. If you want to own it on the way up, you have to own it on the way down. Investors, who worried when Trump began to rise in politics, soon realized that he had their backs. He was just a corporate vessel pretending to be a populist; the stock market was his sugar high. Now Trump is learning the hard way what my fatalistic Irish mother taught me: The thing you love most is the first to go. As Mike Bloomberg points out, investors have factored in Trump’s incompetence, and that is contributing to the market cratering. The president urged the Fed to do something soon to mitigate the stock market losses. Socialism for the rich! The scaremonger in chief has been downplaying the possibility of a coronavirus pandemic and joining Fox News hosts in accusing the “anti-Trump” media and “Do Nothing Democrats” of scaremongering about the virus. At the CPAC convention, Mick Mulvaney told a cheering crowd that impeachment was the “hoax of the day” and now the press thinks the coronavirus “is going to be what brings down the president.” The media, he said, should spend more time on positive stories, like the president’s “caring” relationship with his teenage son, Barron, even though White Houses usually frown on stories about young presidential offspring. Mike Huckabee went on the attack, asserting that Trump “could personally suck the virus out of every one of the 60,000 people in the world, suck it out of their lungs, swim to the bottom of the ocean and spit it out, and he would be accused of pollution for messing up the ocean.” On Fox, Don Jr. said the Democrats “seemingly hope” the virus kills millions to stop Trump’s winning streak. Rush Limbaugh chimed in that the media “would love for the coronavirus to be this deadly strain that wipes everybody out so they could blame Trump for it.” There are 2,800 dead worldwide and disturbing stories showing how federal criteria delayed the diagnosis of a California woman and how federal health employees interacted with Americans who had possibly been exposed to the virus in China without proper training or gear. Yet Trump seems more consumed with how the Democrats might blame him for a coronavirus recession than with the virus itself. Trump had tweet-shrieked at President Barack Obama about how he should handle Ebola. (“Obama should apologize to the American people & resign!”) Yet he was so relaxed about the coronavirus threat that he spent 45 minutes Thursday chatting in the Oval with the authors of a little play called “FBI Lovebirds: Undercovers,” inspired by the texts of Peter Strzok and Lisa Page. The play’s leads, Dean Cain of “Superman” fame and the “Buffy the Vampire Slayer” actress Kristy Swanson, were also in the meeting. Trump joked that he’d be willing to be Cain’s understudy, the actor said. The president got together the same day with a group that included his social media boosters Diamond and Silk. At the White House press conference, Trump preened: “Because of all we’ve done, the risk to the American people remains very low.” He later said that one day, like a miracle, the virus “will disappear.” His top economic adviser, Larry Kudlow, pushed the crisis as an opportunity: “Stocks look pretty cheap to me.” Trump won’t be able to deflect and project and create a daft alternative narrative. The virus won’t respond to conspiracy theories from Rush Limbaugh or nasty diatribes from Sean Hannity or nicknames from Donald Trump. This will be a deus ex machina test of Trump’s authoritarian behavior. Epidemics are not well suited to authoritarian regimes and propaganda, as we saw this week when Beijing’s use of propaganda tactics to suppress information about the outbreak failed spectacularly and when Iran tamped down news about the virus for political reasons even as it ravaged top officials. The reality of the coronavirus spreading will reflect poorly on Trump — his cavalier dismantling of vital government teams for health response and his disdain for experts and science. Trump tried to make federal agencies complicit on his fabulist hogwash about the size of his inaugural crowd and the path of Hurricane Dorian. It is unlikely that he will be able to keep his insatiable and insecure ego in check long enough to give the nation the facts, reassurance and guidance it needs about the infection. Trump is already doing his orange clown pufferfish routine, acting as though he knows more about viruses than anyone, just as he has bragged that he knows more about the military, taxes, trade, infrastructure, ISIS, renewables, visas, banking, debt and “the horror of nuclear.” He appointed Mike Pence to be point man, even though, as the famously homophobic governor of Indiana, Pence helped make the H.I.V. epidemic there worse by substituting moral pronouncements for scientific knowledge. Coronavirus Czar Pence spent Friday at a $25,000-a-plate dinner in sunny Sarasota raising money to try to win back the House, The Tampa Bay Times reported. Trump’s history in business — he makes people feel good for a while and then it ends badly — could presage a stock market crash before he exits. And it’s conceivable that a crash — along with hospitals being overwhelmed by the uninsured — could lead to the election of a real populist promising Medicare for All. And that would be a very Trumpian arc indeed. This lady is good. I've never read her. Thanks. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 1, 2020 Author Share Posted March 1, 2020 WN: Meanwhile, the Democratic establishment and the corporate media moguls are trumpeting Joe Biden's South Carolina primary win bigly, as predicted-- as if Democrats should be impressed by the primary in a Red Hat state that will vote overwhelmingly for Il Douche in November, and where Repubs are allowed to vote in the Democratic primary. The last time a Democrat took South Carolina was 1976. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted March 1, 2020 Share Posted March 1, 2020 (edited) 9 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: Isn't that hysterical William? This was the first state to break away from the union. Its always been the heart and soul of the Lost Cause myth. Remember Fort Sumter and all of that? And somehow this is supposed to be significant? Biden's first primary win in three tries? Please. Yes, historically, there hasn't been a more reactionary state in the country, with the possible exceptions of Mississippi and Louisiana. The Palmetto State was the locus of the Nullification Crisis during Andrew Jackson's presidency-- when John C. Calhoun and the slave-owning planter aristocracy threatened to break with the Union over tariffs. (They quickly backed down when Jackson threatened to send in U.S. troops.) Charleston was the main slave port on the East coast, and slaves comprised 60% of South Carolina's population by 1860, if I recall correctly. No accident that Wade Hampton and the slave-owning aristocracy of South Carolina launched the Secession and the Civil War. As for 2020-- prominent front page headlines about Biden winning S.C. today and "reviving his campaign"-- just before Super Tuesday! The people who own the corporate U.S. media are, obviously, doing everything in their power to stop Bernie Sanders. Edited March 1, 2020 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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