Ron Bulman Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 (edited) 6 hours ago, Jeff Carter said: This is a detailed analysis of the current situation, advocating strict social-distancing and shelter at home policies https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56 Thank you for this Jeff. Possibly the most enlightening thing I've read on the big picture. I've shared it with three Biology professors I work with having expertise in Physiology and advising medical students, statistical and quantitative analysis and Microbiology, Immunology and Virology respectively. I await their opinions but am inclined to sign the petition and promote it on facebook etc. As it states Time is of the Essence. We should be testing Everybody, tracking and isolating/quarantining Yesterday. Or well before. Edited March 23, 2020 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 4 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: I actually got a package of TP, but that is because they are rationing it. No more than one to customer. Plus they do not put it out all at once, its staggered. Were we debating the fine line between research and conspiracy theory last night? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 ?? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 The comments of the governor are relevant. "throwing tantrums from the back seat... Get off twitter and do your job". https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/trump-tells-governors-to-stop-blaming-him-after-they-request-more-help-from-feds/ar-BB11y4Yu?li=BBnbcA1 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 23, 2020 Share Posted March 23, 2020 https://medium.com/@tomaspueyo/coronavirus-the-hammer-and-the-dance-be9337092b56 Take time to read, soon, maybe real soon. Think about it. Sign the petition if you feel inclined. What else can We do, stock up everything? Isolate for a year or more? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 I guess by now all those in the UK are aware of this missive today. https://www.upi.com/Top_News/World-News/2020/03/23/Coronavirus-British-PM-Johnson-issues-sweeping-stay-at-home-order/1841584997476/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 Denver Mayor Michael Hancock issued a stay-at-home order for the metro area today. The liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries will close at 5 PM tomorrow. Hmmm... 🤨 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 28 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Denver Mayor Michael Hancock issued a stay-at-home order for the metro area today. The liquor stores and marijuana dispensaries will close at 5 PM tomorrow. Hmmm... 🤨 What time do they close tonight? If your in line before they do can you still get in? They may be out tomorrow. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=john+denver+rocky+mountain+high+youtube&view=detail&mid=B6E90043FE5E6D2ACDF4B6E90043FE5E6D2ACDF4&FORM=VIRE0&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3djohn%2bdenver%2brocky%2bmountain%2bhigh%2byoutube%26form%3dPRUSEN%26mkt%3den-us%26httpsmsn%3d1%26msnews%3d1%26rec_search%3d1%26refig%3d1d81b7f0909e4a38a84319f4c2851d00%26sp%3d2%26qs%3dLS%26pq%3djohn%2bdenver%2brocky%2b%26sk%3dPRES1LS1%26sc%3d8-18%26cvid%3d1d81b7f0909e4a38a84319f4c2851d00 Edited March 24, 2020 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 An important article? https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/coronavirus/the-most-important-lesson-of-the-1918-influenza-pandemic-tell-the-damn-truth/ar-BB11sAOM?ocid=msn360 The government lied? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) Like Texas governor Patrick, I tend to think we quarantined the country too early, taking the first ditch instead of the last. But I wonder if he should be held to his promise, as Caligula did the senators who offered their lives to the gods for his recovery: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/24/older-people-would-rather-die-than-let-covid-19-lockdown-harm-us-economy-texas-official-dan-patrick Some Englishmen who may have felt otherwise: https://www.theguardian.com/world/2020/mar/18/not-ready-to-go-tributes-paid-to-uk-first-named-victims-of-coronavirus Edited March 24, 2020 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted March 24, 2020 Author Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 12 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: What time do they close tonight? If your in line before they do can you still get in? They may be out tomorrow. https://www.bing.com/videos/search?q=john+denver+rocky+mountain+high+youtube&view=detail&mid=B6E90043FE5E6D2ACDF4B6E90043FE5E6D2ACDF4&FORM=VIRE0&ru=%2fsearch%3fq%3djohn%2bdenver%2brocky%2bmountain%2bhigh%2byoutube%26form%3dPRUSEN%26mkt%3den-us%26httpsmsn%3d1%26msnews%3d1%26rec_search%3d1%26refig%3d1d81b7f0909e4a38a84319f4c2851d00%26sp%3d2%26qs%3dLS%26pq%3djohn%2bdenver%2brocky%2b%26sk%3dPRES1LS1%26sc%3d8-18%26cvid%3d1d81b7f0909e4a38a84319f4c2851d00 Well, so much for the mayor's shut down order... 🤥 After panicked crowds swarm Denver liquor stores and dispensaries, mayor reverses order to close both It only took three hours for the city of Denver to change course on listing liquor stores and recreational dispensaries as “non-essential” https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/23/liquor-stores-dispensaries-closing-denver-shelter-in-place/ Edited March 24, 2020 by W. Niederhut Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted March 24, 2020 Share Posted March 24, 2020 (edited) 18 minutes ago, W. Niederhut said: Well, so much for the mayor's shut down order... 🤥 After panicked crowds swarm Denver liquor stores and dispensaries, mayor reverses order to close both It only took three hours for the city of Denver to change course on listing liquor stores and recreational dispensaries as “non-essential” https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/23/liquor-stores-dispensaries-closing-denver-shelter-in-place/ Fortunately, we're wiser in New York. Watch quarantine turn into a horror movie when you pile Prohibition on it. I'd call all this a test of the American character, but I wouldn't want Caligula to hear. (See my previous post.) Edited March 24, 2020 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 11 hours ago, W. Niederhut said: Well, so much for the mayor's shut down order... 🤥 After panicked crowds swarm Denver liquor stores and dispensaries, mayor reverses order to close both It only took three hours for the city of Denver to change course on listing liquor stores and recreational dispensaries as “non-essential” https://www.denverpost.com/2020/03/23/liquor-stores-dispensaries-closing-denver-shelter-in-place/ Wish I could have raided one of those dispensaries if we're facing possible multiple weeks of lock down to quarters. Calming of anxiety with a plant in it's natural form shouldn't be illegal in this situation . But it is in Texas. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted March 25, 2020 Share Posted March 25, 2020 http://nautil.us/issue/83/intelligence/to-beat-covid_19-think-like-a-fighter-pilot To Beat COVID-19, Think Like a Fighter Pilot “COVID-19 is now squarely inside our collective OODA loop.” OBSERVE ORIENT DECIDE ACT "Boyd’s main strategic argument was that a faster, more maneuverable plane flown by pilots with quick reactions can overcome more powerful adversaries by “getting inside” their loop, changing the facts of the engagement so quickly the opponent can’t keep up. Boyd’s theories were integral to the development of the highly successful F-16 and F/A-18 aircraft, and the OODA loop model has since spread to other strategic realms like sports, politics, litigation, business, and crisis management.” Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted March 25, 2020 Author Share Posted March 25, 2020 Can't go skiing. Can't play golf-- the city courses are all closed, with menacing NO TRESPASSING/VIOLATORS WILL BE PROSECUTED signs. Can't play tennis, or even hit tennis balls against the wall -- the city courts are now locked. Drove to Wal-Mart this morning to buy a replacement basketball backboard/hoop for my garage roof (I threw out the old one when my garage roof was repaired two years ago.) Hadn't been to a Wal-Mart in years--but the store was open for business and surprisingly empty! But NO.... no basketball backboards in stock-- except for the ones with the goofy-looking poles on a stand. So, I bought a pickle-ball starter set for the backyard for $20. Then I listened to NPR on the way home from Wal-Mart. This was the story, as I recall it... NPR interviews the Chief of Epidemiology at UCSF-- one of the top 5 medical schools in the U.S. Trump repeatedly bungled the U.S. response to the COVID-19 pandemic, beginning in January. He ignored expert intelligence briefings and advice from top public health officials-- refusing to authorize the acquisition of accurate test kits that were effectively deployed in countries like South Korea. The U.S. and South Korea both identified their first COVID-19 patients on the same day, but South Korea was able to dramatically prevent the severity of the epidemic in their densely populated country by aggressive use of testing and quarantine measures. Russia has had even greater success in preventing the epidemic, through aggressive testing and quarantine measures. Meanwhile, Trump ignored the experts and made a series of disastrous, poorly-informed decisions that cost the U.S. an estimated four weeks-- and will ultimately result in massively high U.S. mortality rates. Trump and John Bolton also terminated the U.S. pandemic response team in 2018. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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