John Butler Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 11 hours ago, Sandy Larsen said: It was Ron Ecker who nominated Gerald Posner. That surely was one of Ron's famous one-liners. (And don't call me Shirley.) I just checked this list and your name is not there. It should be one of the first entries for your great work on the dental patterns of the two Oswalds. Sorry, I will add your name. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Butler Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) This is the list so far. If you think someone needs to be added please advise. If you think something needs to be changed please advise. As you can see I haven't added all of the descriptions yet. I feel inadequate to this task so, if someone wants to add a brief description please do. This list of people involved with researching the Kennedy Assassination may be valuable for a person new to the subject. It may help with where to seek information. And, it may jog the memory of us old timers. Please note any misspellings or errors and let me know for correction. Jim Garrison- James Carothers Garrison (born Earling Carothers Garrison; November 20, 1921 – October 21, 1992) - District Attorney in New Orleans from 1962 to 1973. He is best known for his investigations into the assassination of President John F. Kennedy by trying Clay Shaw as an assassination co-conspirator. Wrote a best-seller in 1988, On The Trail Of The Assassins. Mark Lane- is best known as a leading Kennedy Assassination researcher and author. Lane wrote many books on the assassination. The best known is The Warren Commission, Rush to Judgement. His last book was Last Word: My Indictment of the CIA in the Murder of JFK, published in 2011. John Armstrong and Jim Hargrove: John Armstrong was the author of Harvey and Lee. Jim Hargrove has been a major supporter and over the years kept the Harvey and Lee notion alive. The 2003 Fetzner Symposium: Taken from the internet- The Zapruder Film Symposium, which was organized and moderated by Dr. James H. Fetzer on the Duluth Campus of the University of Minnesota, 9-11 May 2003, may well prove to have been among the most important conferences in the history of the study of the death of JFK. James Fetzner- Dr. Fetzer published over 100 articles and 20 books on philosophy of science and philosophy of cognitive science, especially of artificial intelligence and computer science. He wrote Assassination Science and Murder In Dealey Plaza. Jack White- John Costella David Healey Scott Lederer David Mantik Gaeton Fonzi John Newman Sylvia Meagher Mae Brussell Anthony Summers Cyril Wecht Penn Jones Robert Tanenbaum Robert Groden David Lifton L. Fletcher Prouty Oliver Stone Harold Weisberg Judith Baker William Weston David Josephs John Kowalski Bart Kamp Jim DiEugenio John Hunt Cliff Varnell David Talbot Doug Horne Michael Chesser - A Review of the JFK Cranial x-Rays and Photographs- 2015- A Review of the JFK Cranial x-Rays and Photographs, was prepared and delivered by neurologist, Dr. Michael Chesser, at the 2015 JFK Lancer Conference in Dallas, Texas. His work also supports the findings of Dr. David Mantik. Walt Brown Ed Tatro- The JFK Conference- The Big Event. Edgar F. Tatro is one of the pre-eminent experts on the Kennedy Assassination. Greg Burnham Vincent Salandria Peter Dale Scott Robert Charles-Dunne Michael Hogan Ron Ecker E. Martin Schotz- The Waters of Knowledge versus the Waters of Uncertainty: Mass Denial in the Assassination of President Kennedy- Coalition on Political Assassinations Conference Dallas, Texas 20 November 1998. Anna Marie Kuhns Walko Jerry Rose Shirley Martin Maggie Field Gary Shaw Wallace Milam Debra Conway Malcolm Blunt Rex Bradford Bill Simpich Bob Dorff Stu Wexler Jim Lesar Mary Ferrell Gary Murr Larry Hancock Joseph McBride Dick Russell Josiah Thompson Barry Ernst Tom Wilson James Douglas Noel Twyman Larry Harris Sandy Larsen Edited April 15, 2020 by John Butler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Zartman Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I too am slightly uncomfortable with the title hero being given to anyone who has done any research on the assassination. This is only my opinion. Perhaps "pioneers" or "figures of note" or some other title would be more appropriate. In my view, the title of hero should be applied mostly to those who showed bravery in the face of danger. No doubt many researchers and authors have been pressured and threatened over the decades, and then continued to work. Their courage should be recognized and saluted. Of course the efforts of so many people contributing their time researching the assassination and sharing the results are greatly appreciated and also should be respectfully acknowledged as well. In my personal opinion, the witnesses and researchers that had information that indicated a conspiracy and resisted pressure to change their stories or were threatened to remain silent but spoke up regardless, especially when there was little for them to gain and much to lose - those, to me, are the true heroes. Some of them did die at the hands of assailants looking to keep them quiet. It seems to me those are the names that are the most likely to fall through the cracks and be forgotten. Either way, it's an interesting idea for a project that will help recognize the major figures in assassination research. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 I appreciate Cory Santos nominating me but I don’t belong on this list. Spending 23 years tilting at windmills on the Internet doesn’t qualify. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Butler Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) Thanks Denny, You make many good and interesting points. I would like to say that it is hard to agree on a definition of hero. Others have different views. This has been brought up several times. I think this list will be categorized later as it becomes more complete. There are several options here. There could be a category of "True Heroes" or a similar title to indicate these people were killed, likely by the government, for what they knew and their effort to report what they knew. Work has been done on this and I would like to include that in this list. Jim Marrs lists 103 deaths of Kennedy Assassination connected people from the years 1963 to 1976. He put an asterisk near suspicious deaths. A list like that could be included. Some people think some folks should not be on the list for various reasons. From their point of view their reasoning is the correct view. I think controversial people should be included and the reader will make the judgement on suitability and exclude whoever they wish. This is currently in the form of a Word doc and can easily be changed to suit someone's interest. Edited April 15, 2020 by John Butler Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Butler Posted April 15, 2020 Author Share Posted April 15, 2020 4 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said: I appreciate Cory Santos nominating me but I don’t belong on this list. Spending 23 years tilting at windmills on the Internet doesn’t qualify. I beg to differ. Even though we disagree from time to time, your work does need to be recognized and remembered. As I said to Denny Zartman there are many definitions of hero. Hero may have not been the right choice of words, but that is the way I look at it. Others look at it differently. I think we need to give the reader the option to decide. IMO, your work can't be ignored. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Rob Clark Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 46 minutes ago, John Butler said: If you think something needs to be changed please advise. James Fetzner- Dr. Fetzer published over 100 articles and 20 books on philosophy of science and philosophy of cognitive science, especially of artificial intelligence and computer science. He wrote Assassination Science and Murder In Dealey Plaza. He didn't "write" either book. They are compilations from various authors. He merely compiled and published other peoples work. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Sandy Larsen Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 Wow, thanks for putting me on the list John. I've never been on "a list" before. But really my name doesn't belong among those who have dedicated their lives to doing this work. I'm just a babe in the woods. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 (edited) Joseph McBride reminded us of the witnesses who came forward at great personal risk to tell what they saw, heard and experienced as true heroes. How true. A stand alone list of many of their names would make for another interesting, informative and inspiring thread and study guide. Would even make a good JFK assassination book imo. I'd like to see McBride's list of the most notable and credible ones in his opinion and research. Even I ( like most of us ) know a few off the top of my JFK research layman head. Roger Dean Craig, Julia Ann Mercer, Carolyn Walther, Victoria Adams, Sylvia Odio, etc. Edited April 15, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Colm Byrne Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 On 4/13/2020 at 3:10 PM, John Butler said: I recently posted on Jack White and Jim Marrs being my heroes of the Kennedy Research effort. I would like to add to the list: Jim Garrison Mark Lane John Armstrong and Jim Hargrove The 2003 Fetzner Symposium: James Fetzner Jack White John Costella David Healey Scott Lederer David Mantik I have left out many good and able men and women who have contributed to our understanding of the Kennedy Assassination. If possible could you add more names to this list? I would like to add myself Colm Stephen Byrne for my exceptional theory of the shot being fired from the tower which once was on top of the Dal-Tex roof, and the bullets following the same trajectory , as that established by the W.C via the TSBD 6th floor window. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Ecker Posted April 15, 2020 Share Posted April 15, 2020 4 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: Would even make a good JFK assassination book imo. I think we're talking about two different categories here. Generally speaking, witnesses and researchers. I agree that witnesses who took great risks about what they experienced can rightly be called heroes. There's already a couple of Who's Who books on the assassination that includes such folks. What I think would really be useful with regard to researchers would be a Who's Who in JFK Assassination Research, with each entry summarizing what that person contributed to or covered in research. Examples: Sherry Fiester on trajectories, Vince Palamara on the Secret Service, Cliff Varnell on the holes in the clothes. To make it easy, each person could write his or her own entry. Those deceased, of course, would have to let someone else do it. And the whole thing would then need an editor, in case some entrants go overboard about their own work (using Trumpian adjectives like "incredible," "huge," and "fantastic"). Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Pretty brave of Louisiana State Police officer Frances Fruge in taking Rose Cherami's claims so seriously he committed serious time and effort into trying to verify them. And then later, working with Jim Garrison also. Dorothy Kilgallen paid the ultimate price for committing herself into her full blown investigation of Ruby and the assassination. Now "there" is a hero. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) 11 hours ago, John Butler said: I beg to differ. Even though we disagree from time to time, your work does need to be recognized and remembered. As I said to Denny Zartman there are many definitions of hero. Hero may have not been the right choice of words, but that is the way I look at it. Others look at it differently. I think we need to give the reader the option to decide. IMO, your work can't be ignored. Bless you, John. Great to hear! I’d be comfortable in a category like: Notable Internet Hobbyists Drop the hero bit. I nominate the late great Bernice Moore in this category. Edited April 16, 2020 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 Ray Marcus Jefferson Morley George Michael Evica Len Osanic Don Jeffries Greg Parker Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Cliff Varnell Posted April 16, 2020 Share Posted April 16, 2020 (edited) Mort Sahl Dick Gregory Richard Belzer Bill Hicks Bob Dylan John Kelin Edited April 16, 2020 by Cliff Varnell Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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