David Josephs

Check that number of copies again... Z kept 2 films, not just the 1... and do you you know what happens to the Phillips to Rowley film after he gets it the night of the 22nd? FWIW, I believe this was 0184.... counters don’t just skip numbers.. if 0184 is a complete and uncut film, in DC by the early morning hours of 11/23, how hard is it to get to hawkeyeworks so a sanitized version is delivered to Dino on Sat at 10pm

FWIW this is a very in-depth article about Ruby you may enjoy... https://harveyandlee.net/Ruby/Ruby.html

And I’ll ask one last time... with the FBI and USPS watching Oswald.. how is it possible that there are no contemporaneous reports, or any report prior to Nov 22 that Oswald had ordered and received a rifle and pistol. Davd... how did they miss that when we have reports all thru Feb, March and April about letters he has sent and received? Thanks.... ps... Mr. JENNER - Was there a rifle packed in the back of the car? Mrs. PAINE - No. Mr. JENNER - You didn't see any kind of weapon? Mrs. PAINE - No. Mr. JENNER - Firearm, rifle, pistol, or otherwise? Mrs. PAINE - No; I saw nothing of that nature. Mr. JENNER - Did you drive them to your home? Mrs. PAINE - Yes. Mr. JENNER - Were the materials and things in your station wagon unpacked and placed in your home? Mrs. PAINE - Yes; immediately. Mr. JENNER - Did you see that being done, were you present? Mrs. PAINE - I helped do it; yes. Mr. JENNER - Did you see any weapon on that occasion? Mrs. PAINE - No. Mr. JENNER - Whether a rifle, pistol or-- Mrs. PAINE - No. Mr. JENNER - Or any covering, any package, that looked as though it might have a weapon, pistol, or firearm? Mrs. PAINE - No. Representative BOGGS - Did you see the rifle that he had in the room in your home? Mrs. PAINE - In the garage, no. Representative BOGGS - In the garage, you never saw one? Mrs. PAINE - I never saw that rifle at all until the police showed it to me in the station on the 22d of November. Mr. LIEBELER. I see. Did you ever see Oswald sitting on the front porch? Mr. ROGERS. Oh, yes; with books, reading. Mr. LIEBELER. Did he read a lot? Mr. ROGERS. Yes. Mr. LIEBELER. Did you ever see any rifle or firearms of any type in his possession at that time? Mr. ROGERS. No; I never.

https://kennedysandking.com/content/oswald-on-november-22-1963 I wrote a piece assuming Oswald must have had a plan.... not so much... DJ

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Funny you should mention.... FWIW I see much of the problems in our world caused by something the English invented... Documented Property Rights causing the Tragedy of the Commons When this concept is extended to Sovereignty we get those WITH deciding the greatest possible outcomes for THEIR fortunes... not the betterment of humanity... JFK... after WWII, Truman and Ike/Nixon still wanted the betterment of all mankind, not just some... While some, controlled benevolence is allowed, in the end, there remains no altruistic reason for those who have the power to raise the level of everyone, rather than only a select few. ==== McCoy and Gilpatric were both partners at Cravath, Swaine and Moore while banking had been under control since the Fed Res Act of 1913 was passed using the little known Colonel House to guide Woodrow Wilson to making the right decisions... but not without reservations: “Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it.”

Why again do you choose to accept what the CIA's Sr. Staff tells the WC about Oswald and Mexico... when they are the perpetrators of the crime? How can DURAN testify to this Oswald character NOT COMING BACK SATURDAY... when we have the CIA transcripts of the calls? "NOT WITHSTANDING THE HOILIDAY SCHEDULE..." TIRADO - No. I read yesterday, an article in the Reader's digest, and they say he was at the Consulate on three occasions. He was in Friday, Saturday, and Monday...That's not true, that's false. CORNWELL - All right. Let's try a different hypothetical. If the one in the Reader's Digest is definitely wrong, is it possible that he first came on like a Thursday, and then came back on a Friday?TIRADO - No, because I am positively sure about it. That he came in the same day. CORNWELL - During this period was your normal work week, did it include Saturdays? Tirado - Yes. Cornwell - Is it possible that, in addition to his visits on Friday, he also came back the following day on Saturday mourning?TIRADO - No.CORNWELL - How can you be sure of that?TIRADO - Because, uh, I told you before, that it was easy to remember, because not all the Americans that came there were married with a Russian woman, they have live(d) in Russian and uh, we didn't used to fight with those people because if you, they came for going to Cuba, so apparently they were friends, no? So we were nice to them with this man we fight, I mean we had a hard discussion so we didn't want to have anything to do with him.CORNWELL - Okay. I understand that but I don't understand how that really answers the question. In other words, the question is, what is it about the events that makes you sure that he did not come back on Saturday, and have another conversation with you?TIRADO - Because I remember the fight. So if he (come) back, I would have remembered. This CIA report states Oswald and DURAN are at the Cuban Embassy on Sat the 28th, despite testimony to the contrary, despite all the signs pointing to it not being possible that Oswald was there... you still want to use RAY ROCCA as your unimpeachable source? What about the ALVARADO situation do you not "get" Karl.... the faked plot to kill Castro involves false flag stories FROM a CIA asset... Maybe you've heard of George Joannides and the activities of the mid 70's regarding the CIA, the lies they told the WC and the disappearing of witnesses as the HSCA gets into full swing? George Efythron Joannides was a Central Intelligence Agency officer who in 1963 was the chief of the Psychological Warfare branch of the agency's JMWAVE station in Miami, and in 1978 was the agency's liaison to the United States House Select Committee on Assassinations

I also wanted to add that AMMUG/1 worked inside the Cuban Embassy and was one of the most valuable of CIA assets... He, like LITAMIL/9 would be aware of any visits or subsequent talk of visits by Oswald to the Cuban Embassy... and like all the others, he does not know of OSWALD until after 11/22...

What KK is talking about is the BS Phillips/Alvarado story Despite all the activity and denials and lie detectors, etc... Phillips used an asset from Nicaragua... Helms explains... "D" = Alvarado

lol... that's just me trying to understand who reports to who at Bethesda... thought I'd share it - maybe would help someone else put things into perspective...

Yes, supposedly from Cuba. The claim Marina never saw it was, I believe, to reinforce it was taken in Mexico. We do not know what the original images may have looked like... Duran was never shown the application after 11/22.

Yes... the only one close is the 1963 June Visa photo.. I'd have to look thru the images of his clothing from DPD... which is woefully incomplete...

the VISA APP is from New Orleans... I only found the way the WCR photos it, they cut off the bottom in one and the top in the other.... the App from MX

This is according to Paul O'Connor... the testimony from KNUDSEN suggests the same thing as he talked about the probes thru the body from both back and front. Mr. Purdy. Where did the probes go through the body? Mr. Knudsen. From the point where the projectile entered to the point where the projectile left. Mr. Purdy. Where were those two points? Mr. Knudsen. I did not say they were two points Mr. Purdy. Was there one probe that you saw through the body, or were there more than one? Mr. Knudsen. More than one. Mr. Knudsen. Right about where the neck-tie is. That would be somewhere in that vicinity. Mr. Purdy. Approximately how much lower than that would you say the other probe, which went through the chest cavity? Mr. Knudsen. I would put it six, seven inches. Mr. Purdy. The probe that you said you could see coming out of the neck, the front of the neck, where was it out of the back of the neck? How high up would you say that one was. Mr. Knudsen. About the base of the neck. ... so if we remember our Bethesda details... Lipsey who flew over with Wehle claims THEY took JFK to Bethesda Yet Lipsey's depiction does not include the hole lower in the back.. while describing 3 bullets hitting JFK.. right-side head, lower head and upper neck... "Part blown away - would #1" "entrance of Bullet #2" "-entrance of Bullet #3" (not in order) After the assassination, Lipsey said that he and Wehle met the body at Andrews Air Force Base and placed it in a hearst-to be transported to Bethesda Naval Hospital. Lipsey mentioned that he and Wehle then flew by helicopter to Bethesda and took JFK into the back of Bethesda. A decoy hearst had been driven to the front. After bringing the body into Bethesda, Lipsey said that Jackie Kennedy and the family entered the front of Bethesda and travelled to the "Presidential suite." (DJ-so who was in the decoy?) (see bottom for Bethesda Org Chart) After the assassination, Lipsey said that he and Wehle met the body at Andrews Air Force Base and placed it in a hearst-to be transported to Bethesda Naval Hospital. Lipsey mentioned that he and Wehle then flew by helicopter to Bethesda and took JFK into the back of Bethesda. A decoy hearst had been driven to the front. After bringing the body into Bethesda, Lipsey said that Jackie Kennedy and the family entered the front of Bethesda and travelled to the "Presidential suite." and you may have seen this - yet another of the missing bullets that were fired into the limo.. this is DURING the autopsy in DC

TIRADO - Yeah. I think that I already explained (to) him where he could take the photographs.CORNWELL - You told him some locations in town where ge could go? Were there some right in the neighborhood of the Consulate there?TIRADO - That I don't remember.

"Dr. Humes said that no major blood vessels were struck by the bullet passing through the President's neck." -Pierre Finck. A 6.75mm bullet is about .25" in diameter which in turn would leave a .25" channel thru the body - not counting the shock waves or any tumbling... Thanks Adam... 1st) the two wounds did not connect and 2nd) the bullt RISES from back to front.... you're not really suggesting it's possible.. right?

3 men John...Keep It Simple.... although it is strange that he hardly moves as shots are fired...

Simple the exhibit, the application and a blowup of the stapled image.... and yes, they match another set of signatures... guess where? the bottom signature looks an awful lot like the signatures from the trip to Russia in 1959. The signature at the top of the image on the bottom is a COPY OF THE SIGNATURE by one "Brian S" on an application that we rewritten for exhibit 496 - see below... Doesn't seem too hard to forge his signature effectively... one has to wonder why it is even necessary to duplicate so many original items of evidence...

Speaking of staples... So, you think the visa application in the WCR is the same as the one sent to Cuba (or the one we supposedly got from them)? Where did the WCR get the exact image without the staples?

Digging around in the minutia... Azcue puts him there a few days earlier...

Once again Dave... We do not buy into YOUR explanation for Mexico... so providing REASONS for your own misconceptions is a waste of time... If you weren't choking so hard on government pabulum maybe you'd have time to come up for air and see what this was all about...

Never, ever believe anything until officially denied... Then you can take it to the bank....

CORNWELL - So, from all the circumstances, did it appear to your that he just went somewhere locally and had the pictures made?TIRADO - Yeah. I think that I already explained (to) him where he could take the photographs.CORNWELL - You told him some locations in town where ge could go? Were there some right in the neighborhood of the Consulate there?TIRADO - That I don't remember. CORNWELL - Just one. The ... I believe I asked you this, but just to be sure, although the application was typed with a carbon to make two copies with one typing, did he have to sign both independently? Or did you allow them to use a carbon to sign the paper?TIRADO - No, no. It was the original.CORNWELL - Two original signatures. All right.TIRADO - Yes.

Cause it didn’t happen... the rifle was created as an item of evidence against Ozzie. So there had to be paperwork related as well... The Evidence IS the Conspiracy.

Think it had more to do with Lee HENRY.... than anything else.... That comes from HQ, not MX... whoever created the tapes for transcribing (cough, Phillips, cough) controlled the Op. Why Duran insists Oswald did not return Sat, Azcue claims someone did... and those calls made.... I think it only fair to mention Simpich’s State Secret... for more detail as to what MAY have been the mole hunt trap... The LIENVOY summary reports are only interested in English speaking Americans which is why contemporaneously we get no reporting of these calls... They did not occur.... yknow, like the FBI not noticing a rifle delivery to their fav little commie...