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...but Mr Russo can't be bothered to translate Spanish into English from this revelatory 'Secret Assassination File'. no entiendo!

Nice one Gil. Actually I have only ever previously watched snips of Turner's documentary series. Thought that the treatment of the Moorman photograph showing the images of Arnold & 'Badgeman' were the clearest that I've seen, much better than the printed page. However, after watching the first six in the series, I end up with more questions than answers!

Pat, Are you referring to Anita Dickason? She was at Lancer in 2013 with her book 'The Real Facts of Lee Bowers' Death'. If I recall correctly she was ex law enforcement. I spoke to her & bought her book, which she signed. Her verdict on Bowers' death was 'accident'.

Greg, I always find your posts extremely interesting and logical as well as fairly lengthy! 😅 A question that comes to my mind is:- If LHO took his rifle into Ryder's workshop and Ryder re-fitted the scope etc., while LHO waited the short time for the job to be completed, why would Ryder write out a job ticket + keep that ticket if he intended to pocket the $ without any appearance in the businesses books? Maybe your thinking is that he was mowed out with work & the ticket was an oversight. However, the info on the foreign news correspondents at the furniture shop in Irving is completely new to me! Fascinating stuff. Thanks.

Yeah, not easy these days without the check jackets & cameras!

Richard McGarrah Helms. He was there and thereabouts in U.S. Gov., during crucial years. Convicted of lying to Congress & did more or less the same to the Church Committee. It is interesting that Nixon sent Haldeman to bend Helms' arm on "that Bay of Pigs thing." Related to above, Jim Koepke in his book 'Chasing Ghosts' relates a phone call that he had with Helms when the latter was retired from intell. work, but was employed by the international consulting firm Safeer Corp. Koepke said that he told Helms that Haldeman claimed the term 'Bay of Pigs' was a code word for the Kennedy assassination, and that members of the Watergate burglary team, some of whom had CIA connections, were also involved in the Kennedy assassination. Mr Helms's answer was extraordinary. Helms sounded tired all of a sudden. He seemed to sigh and take a breath. He told me, "Yes, that is correct; that is what happened." Mr Helms continued speaking, while I sat in stunned silence. He went on to tell me he remembered the incident at the meeting as clearly as if it were yesterday, and that is "exactly what happened." Based on my description of both the incident and Mr Haldeman's allegations, it appeared to me that Mr Helms had just confirmed CIA involvement in the Kennedy assassination. Yeah, interesting. I reckon Helms could have opened that scab.

J.J.A. didn't just fly down to Mexico City to grab files. He was there after the murder of Mary Meyer to confiscate her diary. Also I think I read in Gentry's biog of J. Edgar that Angleton was seen at the rear of Hoover's house after his death in '72, carrying boxes of his 'Private & Confidential' collection into his car. Bet all this stuff never will see the light of day & I'm sure has already been deep sixed.

& if something sounds too good to be true, it probably is. My principal thought since opening the book, & a couple hundred pages on it remains my concern. Excellent synopsis in your post Greg, cheers!

How weird this looks, seen from the U.K. A poignant anniversary hijacked. Over a 100 QAnon supporters gathered at the Dealey Plaza in Texas where John F Kennedy was assassinated, with the hope that his deceased son John F Kennedy Jr will return to reinstate Donald Trump as US president. Videos also showed supporters driving cars with QAnon flags around the area with statements including “Trump won 2020” and “WWG1WGA,” which is the abbreviated QAnon slogan, “Where We Go One We Go All.” The gathering comes weeks after supporters gathered in a Q formation at the Dealey Plaza, waiting for JFK’s resurrection.

I thought the same Dan, until I learned of Chapman's background, his world wide travels on a very low security guards income, the false MSM story of him being a disgruntled Beatles fan, the mysterious stop over in Chicago for three days when travelling from Hawaii to New York, when his flight ticket found in his NY hotel room just showed a direct Hawaii-NY flight, & what's all the "John Lennon must die, says the Catcher in the Rye" chants about? Shades of Sirhan's "RFK must die." A professor of psychiatry examined Chapman and declared that "he might have been acting in response to a 'command hallucination' the day John Lennon was killed. When the cops arrive at the Dakota Chapman is strolling up and down reading his paperback copy of 'The Catcher in the Rye'. After arrest he states that he didn't want to hurt anybody.

I would think "hello love" would be to a girl that you knew, rather than to a stranger. Love could also be replaced with "dear" or "pet". These terms of endearment were very prevalent back then, perhaps not as common today. Do Americans lose their accents when they sing? Not to my ears. Sinatra, Presley, Dylan, Springsteen etc. & I love singers like John Prine & Lucinda Williams & Leslie Feist (yes I know she's Canadian) & thousands of other American artists singing with many regional accents. It's us Brits that seem to lose their accents when singing, Mick Jagger being a prime example.

Sandy, your 'ello love' greeting sounds very northern England, not a 'come on', just normal alternative to hello, so your 'hi' reply was about right.

Yeah, I'm with you & Ray. Read Fenton Bresler's book years back & smelled an MK/Ultra rat....with possibly a CIA doorman.

My copy in book form purchased from Amazon U.K. is scheduled to arrive on Friday 19th.

& in the U.K. via Altitude Films. JFK REVISITED: THROUGH THE LOOKING GLASS. The documentary will be released in cinemas on Nov 26th in the UK. Also, it will be available on our VOD channel from next Friday. https://www.altitude.film/page/home

What a great thread this is. Kudos to Gil, Greg and Pat for this great work. It's why I lurk on this forum on almost a daily basis.

Denny, I'm no ballistics or film expert & nothing from the autopsy X-rays or photographs prove anything to me of bullet trajectories...but I've always dismissed the Hickey AR-15 theory simply on the Queen Mary seating positions of O'Donnell and Powers, who were right in front of Hickey. Their ears would have been ringing if any firearm was discharged. 'While we both stared at the President, the third shot took the side of his head off. We saw pieces of bone and brain tissue and bits of his reddish hair flying through the air. The impact lifted him and shook him limply, as if he was a rag doll, and then he dropped out of our sight, sprawled across the back seat of the car. I said to Dave, "He's dead." A Secret Service agent beside me, probably Tim McIntyre who was standing behind Clint Hill on the left running board, pulled his gun and I reached for it, pushing it down, thinking that if he fired, he might hit somebody in the crowd.' (Johnny, We Hardly Knew Ye) Kennedy aide Dave Powers said, "Someone a foot away from me or two feet away from me couldn't fire a gun without me hearing it."

Cheers Pat....how you doin'? I did the same thing from the film. Long been intrigued by this image & now in the process of painting oil on canvas.

Over fifteen years ago, while beginning to research a book on the odd death of U.S. Army biochemist, Dr. Frank R. Olson, I became aware of the existence of an enigmatic character with the unlikely name Jean Pierre Lafitte. The origins of my awareness came from my perusal of the 1952 and 1953 diaries of Federal Bureau of Narcotics official George Hunter White; a September 20, 1977 article in the New York Times by investigative journalists John M. Crewdson and Jo Thomas; and the private notes and correspondence of James R. Phelan, an investigative journalist and writer, who, in the 1950s through the 1960s, was quite close to both Lafitte and White. Later, during the year 2000, my knowledge about Lafitte grew considerably greater after I was consulted on Frank Olson’s murder by investigators for New York City District Attorney Robert Morgenthau’s office. Spurred by these meetings, I made about a dozen trips to northern New England and southern Florida to interview several individuals who were close to Pierre Lafitte. About 18 months ago, while researching a forthcoming biography of George Hunter White, these interviews resulted in my gaining access to some of the personal writings of Lafitte, including his private date books, which stylistically are quite similar to those of FBN official and CIA consultant, George White. Suffice it to say, I became intrigued with the life and activities of the man known as Jean Pierre Lafitte, who beginning in 1952, through to about 1978, covertly work for the FBN, CIA, FBI, Secret Service, and INS. Lafitte also managed to carry out a number of major, international swindling schemes and operated a number of well-known restaurants. In June 1952, according to a letter by George White, the CIA officially recruited Lafitte as a “special employee” after he was summoned to Washington, D.C. to meet with CIA officials, Dr. Sidney Gottlieb and James Jesus Angleton. Wrote White: “Expecting to be at CIA only a day, Lafitte was held over for a few days. I hope to hell they know what they are in for. I suspect even to that crew that he’s one of a kind.” While at CIA headquarters, Lafitte also met Agency Security Chief, Sheffield Edwards, Frank Wisner, and Richard Helms. Subsequently, Lafitte undertook a number of covert domestic and international assignments for the CIA, including a trip to the Republic of the Congo in December 1960, which coincided with the January 1961 CIA-assisted assassination of Patrice Lumumba. Lafitte’s work for the CIA lasted until about 1978. While writing my book on Olson’s murder, A TERRIBLE MISTAKE: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA’s Secret Cold War Experiments [Trine Day, 2009], of which Lafitte played an integral and deadly role, I could not avoid learning about a number of provocative connections between Monsieur Lafitte and Lee Harvey Oswald and the assassination of President John F. Kennedy. Not the least of these connections was that Lafitte, using an assumed named, throughout the 1960s lived in New Orleans. Indeed, in an incident that caused a flap at CIA headquarters in December 1969, the FBI arrested Lafitte in New Orleans. Briefly detained, he was released after a number of discrete phone calls from Capitol Hill were made to FBI headquarters. At the time of his arrest, Lafitte worked as the head chef at the Plimsoll Club, then part of the International Trade Mart. Portions of Lafitte’s date books for his New Orleans years are revealing of his dealings with various CIA officials, including at least 3 apparent meetings with CIA Western Hemisphere Division employee, George Efythron Joannides. Interestingly, Lafitte’s second encounter with Joannides occurred the second week of August 1963, just days after Lee Harvey Oswald’s Friday, August 9 arrest for provoking a disturbance through leafleting for his Fair Play for Cuba Committee New Orleans chapter. Lafitte’s handwritten notations for Friday, August 16, 1963 read: “… at Antoines room— Martello, Joanides [sic] & Labadie. Quigly [sic] interview Oswald over street demonstration. Call Holdout.” Another notation, made 6 days later reads: “Talk Joanides Cuba—refers to K Organization in Mexico— similar setup now. [D]iscuss with King, ask George and Charles about Havana, Mexico trips…” NOTES: “Antoines room” is thought to be Antoine’s, a well-known New Orleans restaurant that hosted meetings and gatherings in a number of private rooms. There are several references to Antoine’s in the date books. “Martello” appears to be a reference to New Orleans Police Department officer, Lt. Francis L. Martello; not to be confused with Francis “Monk” Martello. Lt. Martello interviewed Oswald in the New Orleans lockup on August 10, 1963. “Quigly” is perhaps a misspelling of the name Quigley. FBI SA John L. Quigley also interviewed Oswald in New Orleans jail. “Labadie” is a known alias, as in Jean Labadie, that Lafitte used often in New York City, but it is also the surname of Stephen J. Labadie, a special agent for the FBI. “Holdout” is unknown; perhaps it is a code-name for a program or confidential informer. “King” is most likely J.C. King, CIA Western Hemisphere director, but could possibly be William Harvey, as some CIA associated people occasionally and mockingly referred to Harvey as “King.” “George and Charlie” are believed to be FBN officials.

Paul, Many points that I beg to differ. However, Greg's thread here refers to the Odio visit & we are Another time maybe.

Amazon lists a publication date of November 16th 2021 for 'Coup in Dallas: The Decisive Investigation into Who Killed JFK' in hardcover.

Not just on the assassination. I believe Sahl also contributed to some of JFK's speeches!

Paul, I believe John Howard Bowen was involved in a car accident and died from his injuries in January 1962. The passenger on the Flecha Roja bus, using the alias of John Bowen, was in fact Albert Osborne, a British national. Osborne was using the Bowen alias (not for the first time) perhaps because Osborne had been ordered to leave Mexico as an undesirable alien back in 1958. The two men had known each other as far back as the 1920's in N. Carolina. Osborne was portraying himself as a missionary or itinerant preacher and met Bowen when he was involved in the Methodist church and YMCA in Hamlet, N.Carolina. Osborne's sister Ada, who lived in Gary, Indiana told the FBI that she had sent her brother money back in the 1920's under the name of John Howard Bowen. I would be interested to know just when the 'Soviet spy' tag was attached to Osborne. That tag is still used in British newspapers. He travelled around U.S. & Mexico for decades without known means of finance, adding various epithets and titles to his name. Osborne's name is linked in many books. Some state as part of a 'hit team' in Dallas as per Torbitt's 'Nomenclature of an Assassination Cabal.' Or McDonald/Moore's 'Appointment in Dallas' which purports a Soviet assassination plot involving LBJ and Osborne. Then there is 'Oswald & the Doppelgangers' by Dov Ivry that states that "Albert Osborne was an ersatz clergyman, domiciled in Mexico, whom the FBI knew when he lived in the U.S. during WWII as a poopoo collaborator."

More of Phil Nelson's rebuttals of 'Faustian Bargains. REFRAMING HISTORY with More Myths: Mellen’s “Faustian Bargains” — Wrong on Many Levels – LBJ: Master of Deceit (lbjthemasterofdeceit.com)