Attorney's file on Roger Stone, LaRouche and Russia influencing the 2016 presidential election

[Cliff Varnell]

11 hours ago, Jim Harwood said:

For years JFK buffs claimed the media was rotten "Oh it's Operation Mockingbird and the damn CIA again. You can"t believe a word they say" and yet when you have  President that calls them out , calls them "Fake News" and identifies them as a threat to the population many of the JFK buffs don't support him.  They swallow Russiagate whole.  I just don't get it.

Cable news gave Trump billions of dollars in free advertising.  The FBI helped rig the election by exaggerating the Clinton e-mail controversy beyond reason.

I don't need the CIA to convince me of Trump-Russian collusion when so much of it was conducted out in the open.

When the entire Mueller Report is finally released the case for collusion and obstruction will be just as obvious as it's always been.

[Jim Harwood]

4 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Paul, that is only on the one score about anti Semitism.  Joe Kennedy was trying to save the Jews of Europe at an earlier date than almost anyone.

Bob also does a lot of negation of the whole bootlegger angle, which people like Mark Shaw are still using.  But this has been discredited and I will go over this in my review of Shaw's latest, Denial of Justice.

But there is simply no way anyone can do anything with what Joseph Kennedy did in London as ambassador.  The best one can say is that FDR and Cordell Hull should have never let him have that job.  He simply did not have any prior diplomatic experience, did not have the right temperament, and was to used to running the show himself.  After reading Nasaw's book about him, which goes into remarkable length and depth about this, Joe Kennedy did not even want to use England as the hammer against the Nazis. Which would have made a lot of sense. Especially after Hitler made a grave military error and called off Operation Sea Lion--the invasion of the British Isles. Once Hitler called that off, the logical military option for the USA was to give Churchill all the means and money he needed to counter Germany's northward advance.  But it appears that Joe Kennedy did not even want to do that.  He wanted to wait for the Axis to attack the USA.

Hull and FDR did not agree with that. They wanted to do the destroyers for bases deal with Churchill.  At this point of disagreement, either Joe Kennedy should have resigned, or FDR should have recalled him. But Roosevelt wanted him around for the 1940 election since Wilkie looked like a real challenger.  

In reading through all of these hundred or so pages, Joe Kennedy should have never been assigned that position.

Jim- Like you told me when I presented you with the statements of Frank Savard which were covered in the New York Times in 1927 that he had invested in the liquor business of Joseph Kennedy Ltd. you said "that was another guy". But you've never told me who this other Joseph Kennedy was. Who is this historical Joe Kennedy involved in the bootleg business? I mean it was a lucrative business for the Bronfman's and it was a lucrative business for Joe Kennedy via his Somerset Importers. 

Who is this guy Joseph Kennedy  shipping British liquor from Vancouver to the mob in the United States? 

[Jim Harwood]

32 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

Cable news gave Trump billions of dollars in free advertising.  The FBI helped rig the election by exaggerating the Clinton e-mail controversy beyond reason.

I don't need the CIA to convince me of Trump-Russian collusion when so much of it was conducted out in the open.

When the entire Mueller Report is finally released the case for collusion and obstruction will be just as obvious as it's always been.

I disagree Cliff. I like your T-3 argument ----I think it's right on the money and closes off any need for other popular conspiracy stories but I cannot agree with your Trump argument.

Thanks.

[Cliff Varnell]

Just now, Jim Harwood said:

I disagree Cliff. I like your T-3 argument ----I think it's right on the money and closes off any need for other popular conspiracy stories but I cannot agree with your Trump argument.

Thanks.

1 outta 2 ain't bad.

Thanks.

[Jim Harwood]

12 minutes ago, Cliff Varnell said:

1 outta 2 ain't bad.

Thanks.

You're welcome Cliff and I do agree with your argument. T3 breaks the lone nut case wide open. There is no need to write a single additional book on conspiracy. 

And I cant attack Trump--anyone that calls out CNN, CBS, ABC New York Times as "fake news" has my admiration. Any President that has ex felons in the White House and gives them a new chance plus a chance to address the nation from that same White House has my admiration. 

[Cliff Varnell]

12 minutes ago, Jim Harwood said:

You're welcome Cliff and I do agree with your argument. T3 breaks the lone nut case wide open. There is no need to write a single additional book on conspiracy. 

And I cant attack Trump--anyone that calls out CNN, CBS, ABC New York Times as "fake news" has my admiration. Any President that has ex felons in the White House and gives them a new chance plus a chance to address the nation from that same White House has my admiration. 

It's the future felons in the White House we need to watch out for.

[Jim Harwood]

5 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Paul, that is only on the one score about anti Semitism.  Joe Kennedy was trying to save the Jews of Europe at an earlier date than almost anyone.

Bob also does a lot of negation of the whole bootlegger angle, which people like Mark Shaw are still using.  But this has been discredited and I will go over this in my review of Shaw's latest, Denial of Justice.

But there is simply no way anyone can do anything with what Joseph Kennedy did in London as ambassador.  The best one can say is that FDR and Cordell Hull should have never let him have that job.  He simply did not have any prior diplomatic experience, did not have the right temperament, and was to used to running the show himself.  After reading Nasaw's book about him, which goes into remarkable length and depth about this, Joe Kennedy did not even want to use England as the hammer against the Nazis. Which would have made a lot of sense. Especially after Hitler made a grave military error and called off Operation Sea Lion--the invasion of the British Isles. Once Hitler called that off, the logical military option for the USA was to give Churchill all the means and money he needed to counter Germany's northward advance.  But it appears that Joe Kennedy did not even want to do that.  He wanted to wait for the Axis to attack the USA.

Hull and FDR did not agree with that. They wanted to do the destroyers for bases deal with Churchill.  At this point of disagreement, either Joe Kennedy should have resigned, or FDR should have recalled him. But Roosevelt wanted him around for the 1940 election since Wilkie looked like a real challenger.  

In reading through all of these hundred or so pages, Joe Kennedy should have never been assigned that position.

I sent this New York Times (1927) article to Jimmy D, His comment was " that's another guy". Meaning I had the wrong Joe Kennedy. That's fine by me but who is this historical Joe Kennedy in the bootlegging business? The Bronfman family was in the illegal business and they're wealthy and have gone "legit". The late Joseph Lindsey who was Ted Kennedy's major financial contributor was a bootlegger and he went legit but we cannot find this Joe Kennedy that was in the booze business during prohibition. What gives?

I most recently discovered Kennedy staff members including Pierre Salinger involved with Robert Vesco and Bernie Cornfield running these off shore hot money funds. The company was called GRAMCO Management Ltd for those that want to check it out. Included on it's staff besides Pierre Salinger and five of JFK's former WH staff advisors at GRAMCO was Prince Borghese , the Black Prince that has been implicated in the murder of JFK as well as terrorism . What's with the Kennedy family are they really organized crime? 

 

FrankSavard.pdf

[Jim Harwood]

8 hours ago, Paul Brancato said:

Robert Kennedy Jr’s book ‘American Values’ corrects the record on Joseph Kennedy. Jim - read it.

Paul, does he also explain how he drove his wife to suicide and how he kicked his heroin habit? RFK Jr. is not my cup of tea.

[Ron Bulman]

On 4/4/2019 at 12:19 AM, Kirk Gallaway said:

Ron says:

The bigger picture was ignored or suppressed, paying off porn stars, screwing one while his wife's pregnant.

 

Suppressed?  So you're saying that story wasn't wasn't splattered everywhere in the MSM?  Everybody knows the Stormy Daniel story Ron. She actually had a lawyer who was on every major network every day (where were you?, Do you own a TV ?) exploiting the story with such success , he actually was considering running for President as a Democrat in 2020 but just last week got indicted for trying to extort Nike.

I find it ironic that somebody so completely out of touch with what was going on would be continually opining about, of all things,  the MSM.

I own a couple of TV's  but take them with a grain of salt.  Yeah the Pussy Grabber tape was exploited.  But Stormy Daniels and Karen Mc Dougal were suppressed at the time by chump's buddy at the ultra reliable source National Enquirer buying their stories and squelching them.  Sitting on them at this time of importance.  His prior infidelities and party switching were ignored, by the MSM.  

Regarding your prior assertion of me brown nosing Jim.  I respect his work.  And his efforts in spite of criticism to publicize the Truth.  I don't think he walks on water.  He knows more than most of us on the subject which deserves our questions.  But what do you ever ask or discuss about details of the assassination?  

[Kirk Gallaway]

Ron says: But what do you ever ask or discuss about details of the assassination?   

Quite a bit before you came around. But I've got more pressing things on my mind right now.

************

Jim H. said:

Talk about addressing the "Forgotten man" President Trump addresses the "least of the least of us".

 

I can't imagine a more. pedestrian superficial,  a more misguided "outsider"assessment of Trump. I see a lot of rather slimy sensational  stories about powerful families.  But  no understanding of where any of the real power lies in the 21st Century.

 

Trump is an half witting multi national corporate shill, that has delivered for the Republican party agenda as no candidate in  the party's 150 year history.

He's tied his fortune to  Wall Street  to the point that the insiders  joke that the market a has a "Trump put under it."  He's actually trying to cut interest rates at the time of an expansion (complete ass backwards economic sense) and pack the Fed with cronies because he sees the sugar rush to the economy from this tax cuts to the wealthy are starting to fizzle out before the 2020 election..

 

The only departure (as I say , "half witting") is his tariff war with China, but Wall Street's confident if they make a stink  and sell off, Trump will eventually capitulate if he has to and just claim victory and no one will be the wiser but them, because absolutely no President in American history has so completely  tied his entire electoral fortunes  to them.

 

However, They still sense the tenuousness of the  Trump ragtag coalition of the largely   forgotten blue collar people, (and small groups of bigots, racists, tax dodging grifters,  and various know nothing whacko conspiracy nuts), he has brought to the their nucleus, because they are still quite content to continue their marginalization that they have been  successfully perpetrating  on the greater blue color forgotten group since the 80's and have no intention of doing anything different in the future. To them, Trump is a convenient figurehead, and they are very happy  to be coasting in this never never land now where  Trump's minions haven't noticed that Trump has completely ignored them, while doing they're bidding.Yes Mum's the word.  But still to them there's always this impending feeling that they're walking on eggshells, and I think they are.

 

Edited April 5, 2019 by Kirk Gallaway

[Ray Mitcham]

Shameless comment.

You know he drove his wife to suicide? Did she tell you before she hanged herself, Jim?

And yes he kicked his heroin habit he had when he was 29. Lots of people do. Maybe you have a blameless past. But as a Trump supporter, you don't seem to have a blameless present..

He was certainly right in his condemnation of the Bushes.

[Jim Harwood]

1 hour ago, Ray Mitcham said:

Shameless comment.

You know he drove his wife to suicide? Did she tell you before she hanged herself, Jim?

And yes he kicked his heroin habit he had when he was 29. Lots of people do. Maybe you have a blameless past. But as a Trump supporter, you don't seem to have a blameless present..

He was certainly right in his condemnation of the Bushes.

Maybe she killed herself due to terminal hang nails? And as far as RFK Jr. "never trust a junkie" . And outside of JFK's 1,000 days as our President is there really much difference politically plus adding in the "slime factor" between the Bush and Kennedy political machine? 

Edited April 5, 2019 by Jim Harwood

[Jim Harwood]

4 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

Ron says: But what do you ever ask or discuss about details of the assassination?   

Quite a bit before you came around. But I've got more pressing things on my mind right now.

************

Jim H. said:

Talk about addressing the "Forgotten man" President Trump addresses the "least of the least of us".

 

I can't imagine a more. pedestrian superficial,  a more misguided "outsider"assessment of Trump. I see a lot of rather slimy sensational  stories about powerful families.  But  no understanding of where any of the real power lies in the 21st Century.

 

Trump is an half witting multi national corporate shill, that has delivered for the Republican party agenda as no candidate in  the party's 150 year history.

He's tied his fortune to  Wall Street  to the point that the insiders  joke that the market a has a "Trump put under it."  He's actually trying to cut interest rates at the time of an expansion (complete ass backwards economic sense) and pack the Fed with cronies because he sees the sugar rush to the economy from this tax cuts to the wealthy are starting to fizzle out before the 2020 election..

 

The only departure (as I say , "half witting") is his tariff war with China, but Wall Street's confident if they make a stink  and sell off, Trump will eventually capitulate if he has to and just claim victory and no one will be the wiser but them, because absolutely no President in American history has so completely  tied his entire electoral fortunes  to them.

 

However, They still sense the tenuousness of the  Trump ragtag coalition of the largely   forgotten blue collar people, (and small groups of bigots, racists, tax dodging grifters,  and various know nothing whacko conspiracy nuts), he has brought to the their nucleus, because they are still quite content to continue their marginalization that they have been  successfully perpetrating  on the greater blue color forgotten group since the 80's and have no intention of doing anything different in the future. To them, Trump is a convenient figurehead, and they are very happy  to be coasting in this never never land now where  Trump's minions haven't noticed that Trump has completely ignored them, while doing they're bidding.Yes Mum's the word.  But still to them there's always this impending feeling that they're walking on eggshells, and I think they are.

 

Kirk, my apology for offending your sensibilities. By the way your avatar, or your pose in your photo has always reminded me of that news photo from 20 plus years ago depicting the leader of that 'Heaven's Gate" cult . He also was photographed with his head half cocked looking upward at the sky.  Your pose and photo is a dead ringer for that guy, now long dead. 

[Douglas Caddy]

3 hours ago, Robert Wheeler said:

 

 

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/William_Barr

From his profile: “From 1973 to 1977, Barr was employed by the Central Intelligence Agency"

Also there is this: https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/2019/apr/05/william-barr-memo-meeting-justice-department-steve-engel

and this:

Essay; The Patsy Prosecutor

https://www.nytimes.com/1992/10/19/opinion/essay-the-patsy-prosecutor.html?fbclid=IwAR3isvu5DYATUHEhfcWHZcideieoo2e9GIGEERcnutvHTOEiyZjQqRyuthM

Edited April 5, 2019 by Douglas Caddy

[Douglas Caddy]

The “Reputational Interests” of William Barr

https://www.newyorker.com/news/daily-comment/the-reputational-interests-of-william-barr?fbclid=IwAR18NJZ_KuIQHS6brveMR2GiFq3IKVs922CShZJaukcvgFwD1-4hUVKGFjc