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1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:

Exactly?  Schiff's a Hero for saying that's not ok.  

That's my take although I think it's self-evident. I edited for clarity.

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3 hours ago, Cliff Varnell said:

 

Jim says:   In the House, the gassy Schiff is still not ready to lay off. Even when they are nailing him with his past pronouncements.

 

Yes Jim, I think you've supplanted Sean Hannity as Trump's bedside confidant.You appear to really have incensed him with your comments!

I l do love the phrase, "The gassy Schiff". To hear you tell it, Between your phrase, Adam Schiff and Devin Nunes, there's a lot of "gassiness'  going on down there in Socal!  Or maybe you all could be characterized as Phil Hartmann ( R.I.P.)  would say, as "sassy". You're certainly "sassy" Jim, and Adam Schiff,?   Man he's way "sassy"! And Devin Nunes???? (Prowling around the White House lawn),..... Ok maybe not so sassy.

As Cliff noted at the time. You were quite eager to take a victory lap about this even before any comment from Barr. I get it, it is a secure feeling, being the official.

Obviously enough circumstantial evidence here to put away a black man. (Maybe even Obama with a Republican Congress?)

I call it the "single bullsh-t theory."

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Oh please, here comes Kirk and his DiEugenio Dartboard.

YAWN.

I would have a lot more respect for Adam if he would say; "I was wrong about the Steele Dossier.  There are things in there that are provably false. And we should have admitted that HRC paid for it much earlier, we should not have blocked that info.  I also should not have said it had never been disproven. But I wanted to keep this whole thing alive politically and I was wrong.  And we should have been more honest about what the FBI used it for.  What they did with it was quite dodgy."

When Adam says anything like that , which all happens to be true, I will then take back what I said.

Hold your breath until he does.  It will happen on the same day Dan Rather comes clean on the CBS cover up about the Warren Commission.

Here is the proof of what CBS and Danny Boy did.   https://kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/why-cbs-covered-up-the-jfk-assassination

Please Kirk, show me where you have ever written anything comparable to that in this field?

 

 

 

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Yawn! ???

I conceded you were said "sassy" Jim, but I didn't say you had a "sense of humor." I know you like being the official but get that stick out of your butt!

Ok, back to the Steele dossier and HRC inevitably. (yawn) 

Fusion GPS was contracted by the conservative political website the Washington Free Beacon to provide opposition research.on Trump. . Everyone knows the chain of possession Jim, even if you don't..

Jim says:

But Schiff wanted to keep this whole thing alive politically

So you're saying that Schiff could actually keep it alive or kill the  whole thing on his own? That's crazy! There  were media  investigations into Trump on many levels. Some of it  started from the day of his election, that had taken on a life of it's own  despite later public efforts of the Republican backed Congress to suppress it.

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4 hours ago, James DiEugenio said:

Please Kirk, show me where you have ever written anything comparable to that in this field?

Talk about gassy!

Irony is alive and well...

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Re: Adam Schiff and Democrats Doubling Down on the Discredited Dossier 

Unlike for a few on this file, the reflexive reaction to oppose anything Trump says or does is not motivated by policy differences or distrust in what Trump says.

Adam Schiff, Jerry Nadler, Eric Swalwel and certainly more, are trying to save their own skin by maintaining that Trump colluded with the Russians.

I know some of you get uncomfortable talking about conspiracies on the JFK Assassination Forum even though the JFK Assassination is the biggest conspiracy of all time. Nevertheless, their are a number of Democrats, and a few "retired" Republicans (Paul Ryan, Jeff Flake, others) that are already in too deep in the swamp to call it quits on the collusion narrative. (Paul Ryan, for example, is joining the Fox Corp. Board [announced last week], where he can still try to steer the narrative.]

As you may recall, John Brennan's CIA did not have any qualms about spying on the Senate (and very likely the Supreme Court) when he was in charge. 

"Central Intelligence Agency officials spied on computers used by the Senate Intelligence Committee, which was investigating controversial Bush-era detention and interrogation programs, an internal investigation has found." MSNBC July 31, 2014

The spying effort on the House of Representative Side was conducted through the Imran Awan, his brother Omar, and possibly other family members on the congressional payroll, via their positions as House IT contractors. (Note that payroll record show multiple Awans received pay checks, but it is not clear if any of them, except for Omar and Imran actually existed. )Trump referenced the "Pakistani Mystery Man" in an April 20, 2018 tweet.

The brothers (as IT contractors) were responsible for distributing equipment (lap tops, Blackberry's, etc.) to about 40 congressional Democrats. The Blackberry's were configured to sync to the lap-tops and from the lap-tops, on to Pakistan ISI. 

A number of Democrats (Schiff & Nadler mentioned above) as well as Debbie Wasserman Schultz, and Nancy Pelosi, knew about the data vacuuming. Paul Ryan was also in on it, or at least decided not to investigate. (2018 was a near record year for congressional Republican "retirements" and it is a virtual given that many of those retirements were because they were up to no good.)

Schiff and Nadler and the other Democrats still trying to make something out of the Mueller Report are trying to run out the clock. They do not want the public to shift their gaze away from "Trump Collusion" and towards their own dirty deeds and their CIA handlers.

Bonus info: The Awan's originally got there positions under Anthony Weiner (easy enough with all of his black mail-able texting.) Debbie Wasserman inherited the Awan's after Weiner quit Congress.

 

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Has "Cover-Up General" William Barr Struck Again?

Barr's history of helping Republican presidents in legal crises may explain why Trump brought him back in to head the Justice Department

 

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/03/26/has-cover-general-william-barr-struck-again?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork&fbclid=IwAR0jQjgp3Shm4kaQ2b9KIxoJmNPTH3eOdcEpIMWfFxcJBUOa3CYxFODluAA

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Yes yawn Kirk.

In  this article by Bob Parry, which was published almost two years ago.  He predicted that this would go just about nowhere.

It was a bunch of unrelated loose threads that showed no evidence of a conspiracy.  And that the MSM was showing no standards for journalism in dumping everything they could  and saying things they could not prove.

https://consortiumnews.com/2019/03/28/consortium-news-record-on-russia-gate-how-cn-covered-the-scandal-no-3-the-tangled-threads-of-russia-gate/

Bob took a lot of heat for this.  Just like he did when he would not go along with the Clinton Crazies and the phony Whitewater  nonsense.   He was right then and it looks like he was right on this.  Which is what made him the paramount journalist in America.

To discard the Steele Dossier is to me simply irresponsible and throws out the sine qua non of Russia Gate.  No other exhibit was more responsible for causing the hysteria that fueled this story for the two years it possessed the media like a voodoo spell.  And Schiff was one of its biggest promoters.  Even though he knew Perkins Coie paid for it, he fought in the committee to keep that a secret.  And he always billed it as being not verified but nothing in it was disproven.  I guess he forgot about the Post going to Prague and finding no evidence Cohen was there.

He knew that too  but he did not want to say it.  Because it damaged his Holy Grail.

I am a Democrat.  I do not like Trump.  I would never vote for the guy, even if he was the only candidate running.  And I still do not understand how he went from a decent candidate with the Reform Party to a right wing loon in 2016. Which is a heck of a more interesting and valid story than Russia Gate.  But abuse of the system is the same whether its by the Dems or the GOP. We are supposed to be against it by either party. Because we have seen the horrendous results in the JFK, MLK, RFK and Malcolm X cases.  I know since I wrote a whole book about all of them.  Russia Gate was a distraction.  It took away from just how bad Trump has been.  I mean please.  Giving billions of tax breaks to multi millionaires and then wanting to cut Special Olympics and aid to autistic kids?  That is how bad that tax act was.

But somehow for the Dems that takes second place.  Sheesh. 

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31 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said:

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In  this article by Bob Parry, which was published almost two years ago.  He predicted that this would go just about nowhere.

It was a bunch of unrelated loose threads that showed no evidence of a conspiracy.  And that the MSM was showing no standards for journalism in dumping everything they could  and saying things they could not prove.

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Hi Jim,

Nowhere? The liberal media is alive and well, it went EVERYWHERE... and then the conservative media has FOX, there's the letdown. Kinda reminds me of the old days where every city/town of decent size had two newspapers. One was the liberal rag (morning?), the other the conservative rag (afternoon?). Multiple editions daily in some metro areas. And they dumped on each other daily. Now we have that on a grander scale and we don't even need ink or paper, 24/7. And FOX is raking it in...

THEN: If it's gonna sell papers print it! NOW: If its gonna garner clicks/views post it! The next chapter on the journalistic beat? TRUTH and decisions dealing with "standards of journalism" issue/none issue. 

Prove? The real publishing issue has always been 'advertisers,' not proof. When the media is looking for legitimacy or cover, THEN they'll dust off TRUTH.

 

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Correct on all counts David.  No argument there.

BTW, take a look at this clip below.

This is how utterly and completely wrong the media was. Its almost funny. They really believed their own  BS.  I mean one guy talked about it being a realignment type election?   IMO, Russia Gate was one way for them to not accept they were so foolish.

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1 hour ago, Douglas Caddy said:

Has "Cover-Up General" William Barr Struck Again?

Barr's history of helping Republican presidents in legal crises may explain why Trump brought him back in to head the Justice Department

 

https://www.commondreams.org/views/2019/03/26/has-cover-general-william-barr-struck-again?utm_campaign=shareaholic&utm_medium=facebook&utm_source=socialnetwork&fbclid=IwAR0jQjgp3Shm4kaQ2b9KIxoJmNPTH3eOdcEpIMWfFxcJBUOa3CYxFODluAA

There is no one on the Trump side who is not concerned about the Barr appointment as AG. The general consensus is that he is a friend of the Bush Family and therefore will prioritize their interests ahead of the country's.

Your headline would be more accurate if it said this:

Barr's history of helping Republican Bush presidents in legal crises may does not explain why Trump brought him back in to head the Justice Department.

If you don't want to go down any conspiracy paths, the thinking would be that Barr is just a regular honest guy and was picked by Trump to be AG because he would sail through confirmation. That is a little hard to swallow as Trump and the Bush family have never gotten along.

Along more conspiratorial lines of thinking, Trump picked Barr in exchange for getting George W. to call off his minions or otherwise cooperate with any number of Bush sponsored Deep State plots over the past 60 years (ie. who, in the CIA, is still "keeping the Metric System Down" [Simpsons Reference].)

This video from the Bush Sr. funeral was the talk of pro-Trump Youtubers and forums for about a week after the funeral. It is short, about 2 minutes long. It may not be anything, but it is fun to speculate. I would be interested in reading interpretations from those that are not Pro-Trump. (Ignore any commentary or turn off volume.)

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=kPM6oYEdoZQ

 

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35 minutes ago, Robert Wheeler said:

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Barr's history of helping Republican Bush presidents in legal crises may does not explain why Trump brought him back in to head the Justice Department.

If you don't want to go down any conspiracy paths, the thinking would be that Barr is just a regular honest guy and was picked by Trump to be AG because he would sail through confirmation. That is a little hard to swallow as Trump and the Bush family have never gotten along.

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Or, the GOP went to the Bush family? And begged for help. it doesn't take a rocket scientist to come up with a plan to massage a thief/thug's ego, eh? Especially, when one just might witness, up close and personal, the demise of the Republican Party. Picture it, the Green Party out maneuvering the GOP for the next 30 years. A Barr type should of been expected. And I'm not so sure, he wasn't.

The alternative: Lincoln might just as well been a horse and buggy hack in Chicago as rather president.

Here's a conspiracy path for ya: Nancy Pelosi back channeled the idea about Barr to the GOP and suggested they ring up George Bush and see how they can help the Donny. Now THAT would be worthy.... and a stroke of brilliance.

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36 minutes ago, David G. Healy said:

Here's a conspiracy path for ya: Nancy Pelosi back channeled the idea about Barr to the GOP and suggested they ring up George Bush and see how they can help the Donny. Now THAT would be worthy.... and a stroke of brilliance.

There is the first problem with your theory, the universe does not allow for any combination of the highlighted words.

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