The inevitable end result of our last 56 years

[W. Niederhut]

A review of Patriot Purge in the The Atlantic today...

Tucker Carlson Is Stirring Up Hatred of America
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/patriot-purge-tucker-carlson-documentary/620589/

November 3, 2021

Excerpt

      ..."To comprehend the full scope of the conspiracy, viewers will have to watch all three episodes. But even in the first episode, the goals of this project are already clear. The point is to describe the events of January 6 as a false-flag operation cooked up inside the deepest layers of the American deep state—and thus to cast doubt on everything that will come out of Congress’s January 6 hearings, everything revealed by every Washington Post or network-television investigation, everything turned up by the FBI. For Fox viewers, this will come as an enormous relief. If all the disturbing facts can be ignored, then no lessons need be learned. Republicans in Congress and the Trump White House need never be blamed for their assault on the Constitution. The people who supported them need never question that support."

 

Edited November 3, 2021 by W. Niederhut

[Paul Brancato]

6 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

A review of Patriot Purge in the The Atlantic today...

Tucker Carlson Is Stirring Up Hatred of America
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/patriot-purge-tucker-carlson-documentary/620589/

November 3, 2021

Excerpt

      ..."To comprehend the full scope of the conspiracy, viewers will have to watch all three episodes. But even in the first episode, the goals of this project are already clear. The point is to describe the events of January 6 as a false-flag operation cooked up inside the deepest layers of the American deep state—and thus to cast doubt on everything that will come out of Congress’s January 6 hearings, everything revealed by every Washington Post or network-television investigation, everything turned up by the FBI. For Fox viewers, this will come as an enormous relief. If all the disturbing facts can be ignored, then no lessons need be learned. Republicans in Congress and the Trump White House need never be blamed for their assault on the Constitution. The people who supported them need never question that support."

 

A good summary of where we are now.

 

[Benjamin Cole]

9 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

A review of Patriot Purge in the The Atlantic today...

Tucker Carlson Is Stirring Up Hatred of America
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/patriot-purge-tucker-carlson-documentary/620589/

November 3, 2021

Excerpt

      ..."To comprehend the full scope of the conspiracy, viewers will have to watch all three episodes. But even in the first episode, the goals of this project are already clear. The point is to describe the events of January 6 as a false-flag operation cooked up inside the deepest layers of the American deep state—and thus to cast doubt on everything that will come out of Congress’s January 6 hearings, everything revealed by every Washington Post or network-television investigation, everything turned up by the FBI. For Fox viewers, this will come as an enormous relief. If all the disturbing facts can be ignored, then no lessons need be learned. Republicans in Congress and the Trump White House need never be blamed for their assault on the Constitution. The people who supported them need never question that support."

 

W.-

 

I keep saying to Tucker Carlson and to The Atlantic, and the rest of M$M: Show some primary evidence, some e-mails, texts or recorded phone calls proving out your case. 

I have not seen Carlson's show yet. If he has proof that federal agitators caused the 1.6 scrum, I would like to see it.

Ditto, if the The Atlantic has proof of Trump Administration officials covertly instigating the occupation of the Capitol, such as texts or recorded phone conversations, then bring it on. 

Glenn Greenwald is airing programs worth watching and you can see them on Youtube (at least for now, until they get banned too).

 

 

 

 

 

[Ron Bulman]

12 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

A review of Patriot Purge in the The Atlantic today...

Tucker Carlson Is Stirring Up Hatred of America
www.theatlantic.com/ideas/archive/2021/11/patriot-purge-tucker-carlson-documentary/620589/

November 3, 2021

Excerpt

      ..."To comprehend the full scope of the conspiracy, viewers will have to watch all three episodes. But even in the first episode, the goals of this project are already clear. The point is to describe the events of January 6 as a false-flag operation cooked up inside the deepest layers of the American deep state—and thus to cast doubt on everything that will come out of Congress’s January 6 hearings, everything revealed by every Washington Post or network-television investigation, everything turned up by the FBI. For Fox viewers, this will come as an enormous relief. If all the disturbing facts can be ignored, then no lessons need be learned. Republicans in Congress and the Trump White House need never be blamed for their assault on the Constitution. The people who supported them need never question that support."

 

1984?

[Benjamin Cole]

From the WaPo report on 1.6:

"About 1:30 p.m., Capt. Carneysha Mendoza, a 19-year veteran of the Capitol Police, was at home in suburban Maryland. She had just pulled meatloaf from the oven and sat down with her 10-year-old son, Christian, before he was to spend the rest of the day with babysitters. The commander for a Capitol Police civil disturbance unit, Mendoza was about to head into work for her shift in the Capitol starting at 3 p.m."

Really.

On the afternoon of 1.6, the commander of Capitol Police civil disturbance unit was at home making meatloaf.  In suburban Maryland. Planned to go into work at 3 pm. 

Reminder: The 3,600-officer Capitol Police department reports to the legislative Donk-controlled branch, not to the executive branch. 

Vince Palamara has reported here recently that rooftops were guarded in many cities JFK visited...but not Dallas. Some take that as a sign protection was limited in Dallas, by design. 

When the commander at the Capitol Police department civil disturbance unit is home cooking on 1.6....what to take away from that? 

 

About 1:30 p.murban Maryland. She had just pulled meatloaf from the oven and sat down with her 10-year-old son, Christian, before he was to spend the rest of the day with babysitters. The commander for a Capitol Police civil disturbance unit, Mendoza was about to head into work for her shift in the Capitol starting at 3 p.m.

[Richard Price]

2 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

When the commander at the Capitol Police department civil disturbance unit is home cooking on 1.6....what to take away from that? 

Ben, I would take it to mean that she was working the 3pm to ? shift.  You do realize none of the police were on a 24 hour shift don't you?

[Steve Thomas]

What would a 21st Century American Civil War look like?

By Lucian K. Truscott IV October 13, 2021

https://luciantruscott.substack.com/p/what-would-a-21st-century-american?token=eyJ1c2VyX2lkIjo1MDcyNDUyOSwicG9zdF9pZCI6NDI1NjE0OTIsIl8iOiJJRkxtRCIsImlhdCI6MTYzNDIxNDgxOSwiZXhwIjoxNjM0MjE4NDE5LCJpc3MiOiJwdWItMjU1MzAxIiwic3ViIjoicG9zdC1yZWFjdGlvbiJ9.EIDzo_4dUMbMw8ZzzzLvCI-DAhQ74C7Pp3Ir5Lw3E64&utm_source=fark&utm_medium=website&utm_content=link&ICID=ref_fark

“I don’t think anyone in this country is prepared for the destruction and lack of conventional modern amenities that accompanies war.  Deliveries of every sort of goods from food to major appliances to clothing to…well, everything will be disrupted.  Electricity will be absent or at best intermittent as one side attempts to damage the other by taking out generating plants and power distribution infrastructure.”

“ Meanwhile, because refrigeration was not reliable, food shopping had to be done daily, and if fighting interrupted deliveries of fresh vegetables or canned foods to markets, there wasn’t any food, sometimes for days, even weeks.”

“A civil war can be relied upon to maintain one thriving market:  the sale of weapons and ammunition of all kinds will be rampant.  Smuggling from outside the country will bring in all manner of heavy weapons and other materiel.  If there is a war, there is one predominate need, and that is for weapons with which to destroy and kill. They will be everywhere.”

 

 

Steve Thomas

Edited December 26, 2022 by Steve Thomas

[Kirk Gallaway]

Ron said:  1984?

That's right Ron.

 

 

Hell hath no fury as Glen (and Ben?) scorned.

 

Of course I don't think Greenwald  should be removed from twitter, but his tweets are a perpetual monotonous, (but certainly mesmerizing to Ben),  bitchfest and railing against  the" corporate democrats" who ironically have now  been trying to engineer the biggest  social works program, since FDR, but fell 2 people short because they can't can't  seem to get around the Fox strangle hood of their red state constituencies, and win any kind of solid majority in elections.

This despite the fact t that you ask all these people in red states if they'd like expanded medicare benefits, if they'd like to break  up big pharma's ban on competitive collective bargaining pricing for prescription drugs, as Canada has. If they'd like help with child care,  If they'd like help with paid leave during childbirth and all they seem to unaminously agree they would, and  yet can't make the leap that that's what the Democrats want to give them, because they've swallowed the culture wars and this Democrat "elitist" label that the true economic elitists as  Tucker,Fox news opinion makers have spoonfed them.

 

But the travesty is, they are joined by  Greenwald, who should know better but is only  thrashing out because despite being an avid first amendment proponent had  a critical lapse of judgment and and was shunned by the intelligentsia for  being an enabler in 2016  of the biggest presidential first amendment tyrant of any President in U.S. history, and because of that  is on an endless hissyfit  about the "Democrats and the liberal media establishment."

 

Having said that, I can understand that some people might oppose all this spending, but they're in the vast minority. A lot of the opposition  are just mesmerized with the Fox culture wars and don't vote in their interest. But they would gladly accept such spending if it was given to them by the Republicans, but unfortunately they only want to appropriate more money for defense and to cut revenue by lowering taxes to millionaires. Which has some sort of twisted appeal to them, because in their dreams, that's  the kind of problem they'd like to have.

 

https://educationforum.ipbhost.com/applications/core/interface/file/attachment.php?id=30643&key=e576d9fb4f72757000dc6911101efe23Gr

Edited November 4, 2021 by Kirk Gallaway

[W. Niederhut]

Well said, Kirk.

Meanwhile, the Liberal Redneck has just posted his review of Tucker Carlson's Patriot Purge in his inimitable style.

I love this guy.  I hope he doesn't pull a Glenn Greenwald and start working for Fox... 🤪

January 6th Wasn't A False Flag

Trae Crowder blasts the conspiracy theory that January 6th was a false flag.

 

[Benjamin Cole]

10 hours ago, Richard Price said:

Ben, I would take it to mean that she was working the 3pm to ? shift.  You do realize none of the police were on a 24 hour shift don't you?

Yes. 

On the other hand, I would expect the vast bulk of the 3,600-officer Capitol Police department to be on duty on Jan. 6--and especially the commander of the civil disturbance unit.

(Not that I would want anyone to...oh, you know, do anything extreme like show up outside of their scheduled shift.) 

The WaPo has been shrieking for months about the tsunami of evidence that trouble was brewing on Jan. 6.  Why, WaPo says federal authorities must censor Facebook, so aboveground and obvious was the planning for the Jan. 6 "insurrection."  

So Jan 6 comes...and the Capitol Police had 10 officers on some entrances to the Capitol (by WaPo reporting).  Commanders were making meatloaf in Maryland suburbs on the afternoon of Jan. 6! (And that is by softball WaPo reporting, which has routinely demonized police officers nationwide, but now is lionizing the Capitol officers.)

Egads. And where were the 2,300 officers of the DC Metropolitan police? They get a pass too. 

So...(again by WaPo reporting) phone calls were made to suburban police districts, and the FBI, and they sent some guys down and moved the crowd out the Capitol onto the lawns, an arrested everybody. 

The national insurrection was thus bravely quelled. 

Well, interesting story. 

BTW, I think the 'Phants are just as awful as the Donks.

But as of now, the Donks-Deep State-M$M are aligned, while the 'Phants seem to have the WSJ and not much more. 

Another oddity: No one at WaPo seems to have been at the Capitol on Jan. 6. I keep reading, but not coming across first-person accounts by a WaPo reporter. Maybe I missed it, and I have not read the whole piece. 

Reminds me of M$M post-JFKA narratives.

That is one reason to study the JFKA---to learn how to look for political or authoritarian narratives, as opposed to journalism. 

 

 

 

[Guest]

One thing many miss on here is; it matters not who made the statement, only whether it has validity or not. 
It would be great to see a renaissance of critical thinking. 

[David Andrews]

10 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

That meme reminds me that the pseudo-democratic, fatally seductive world of the internet and social media is the one thing Orwell failed to predict in the all-stick-no-carrot universe of 1984.  Given another couple years of life, he might have glommed that there would be carrots, all poisoned.

[Benjamin Cole]

24 minutes ago, Chris Barnard said:

One thing many miss on here is; it matters not who made the statement, only whether it has validity or not. 
It would be great to see a renaissance of critical thinking. 

Man, you said it. 

Right now, groups and individuals affiliate with, indeed worship, narratives, not journalism.

The NYT, WaPo, and yes Fox, deliver narratives, and they have their cocooned followers. 

To be sure, no one is perfect, but head and shoulders above the rest are Matt Taibbi, Glenn Greenwald, and Aaron Mate. Saagar Enjeti is really good too. Krystal Ball is pretty good, and fun to look at.  The Hill Rising puts on an interesting show. 

I still have not seen Tucker Carlson's three-part series on 1.6, so I am withholding judgement. It is getting the Oliver Stone treatment, so it may be worth watching...

 

 

[Ron Bulman]

11 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

Well said, Kirk.

Meanwhile, the Liberal Redneck has just posted his review of Tucker Carlson's Patriot Purge in his inimitable style.

I love this guy.  I hope he doesn't pull a Glenn Greenwald and start working for Fox... 🤪

January 6th Wasn't A False Flag

Trae Crowder blasts the conspiracy theory that January 6th was a false flag.

 

This guy is great, in spite of or because of David's poisoned carrots. 

[Guest]

2 hours ago, David Andrews said:

That meme reminds me that the pseudo-democratic, fatally seductive world of the internet and social media is the one thing Orwell failed to predict in the all-stick-no-carrot universe of 1984.  Given another couple years of life, he might have glommed that there would be carrots, all poisoned.

Hi David,

When looking at Orwell (Eric Blair) at a glance, it's easy to think he may have been a disenfranchised, maladjusted chap, with a warped imagination that led him to conjure up dystopian visions of the future, I think anyone that lived in that time would understand where he was coming from, particularly those who escaped from communist states. Perhaps those who quote him so frequently are seeing or interpreting his writings in ways other than they were intended, on occasion. But, make no mistake about it, he was part of the intellectual clique of his time, Aldous Huxley was his French teacher. Huxley being another guy who moved in such circles, his brother was Sir Julian Huxley, the eugenicist. On reflection, perhaps Huxley's predictions in 1958 which became "Brave New World Revisited" were more accurate than Orwell's vision of the future. However, both of them are looking very prescient indeed now and there is plenty that Orwell was right about. Perhaps the greatest prediction was that people would live in servitude and be blissfully unaware, or be happy about it. That they'd be compliant because of a mix or entertainment, propaganda and pharmacological means. Social media is a form of addictive entertainment, The Romans went to the Colloseum high on grog to watch the games and find a loose woman, in 2021 we can watch all manner of entertainment on our phones 24/7, load up on sugar, have alcohol delivered to our door, and bat one out to porn instead of making the effort with a girl. It's all addictive and dopamine releasing, I don't see it as all that much different aside from the fact public discourse and censorship happens on this tech device. He did highlight a device called the telescreen, where parallels can be drawn. Orwell was spot on with the surveillance. What amazes me is how the public have forgotten the tragedies of the twentieth century and ignorantly think it can never happen again. 
 

 

Edited November 5, 2021 by Chris Barnard