Micah Mileto Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Did I scare Fred Lipton away from the forum by calling him a TERF? Please come back on, Fred, I won't mention it again! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Is Parnell saying above what I think he is saying? He has been trashing the film for months-WITHOUT SEEING IT! Does not that break every ethical rule of criticism out there? One more reason I have him on ignore, and everyone else should also. 🤮 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 (edited) You know what I wish? I wish just one reviewer would review JFK Revisited and note the documentary's many and extraordinary strengths, and then yes, ask fair and challenging questions. Fine. But having fairly reviewed the documentary, I wish then the reviewer would say--- "Whatever few shortcomings JFKA:Revisited has, they are due to the federal government's relentless dissembling and cover-up about the JFKA for near six decades. We only know as much as we do about the JFKA thanks to intrepid and tenacious study, largely unpaid, by a dedicated community of researchers, in this case illustrated by the film work of Oliver Stone. If there are any shortcomings in JFK-Revisited, lay them at the feet of the CIA, the FBI, the Warren Commission and the HSCA--and a complacent mainstream media." Edited February 11, 2022 by Benjamin Cole typo Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Tracy Parnell Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 11 hours ago, James DiEugenio said: Is Parnell saying above what I think he is saying? He has been trashing the film for months-WITHOUT SEEING IT! Does not that break every ethical rule of criticism out there? One more reason I have him on ignore, and everyone else should also. 🤮 I watched what I could. But I know what is in it. I have friends who have a stronger stomach than I do. 😀 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted February 11, 2022 Share Posted February 11, 2022 Thanks Benjamin. That would be nice. The MSM guys never even mention this factor of the creation of the ARRB, and the fact that the film is based largely on that body. Which the MSM ignored. Meanwhile, when they start doing retrospectives on your career, you know your recent film made Bingo. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) Took another look at the show the last couple days and really like it. I have to say that even though I'm fairly knowledgeable about the subject I still get left behind at times. Unfortunately, films aren't very good at exploring complex subjects but are very good at immersing a passive subject. I suspect the book will shore up a lot of that and expand on it as well. Methinks a series like Wormwood could well cover what this does and provide a little breathing room for the uninitiated. I can't wait for the four-hour version. Hurry up hahaha! Edited February 13, 2022 by Bob Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 I think the release date is March 7th for the four hour version. That will be followed by the Book of the Film. And then the combined DVD package, with both versions. With a commentary by Oliver and myself. Thanks Bob. BTW, my niece told me she watched it three times until she finally understood everything. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted February 13, 2022 Share Posted February 13, 2022 (edited) 11 minutes ago, James DiEugenio said: Thanks Bob. BTW, my niece told me she watched it three times until she finally understood everything. You bet Jim. Haven't had a chance to speak to Brian yet with work being done on my house and CV etc. Plus I'm away from the Island mostly. Be interesting to hear his take. I can give my address... I know you have copy😀 I suppose she's like six or something huh? Hahaha! Edited February 13, 2022 by Bob Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Tracy Parnell Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 Regarding Jim D's claim that Kleins could not have received Oswald's order in one day: Debunking Another JFK Myth - Overnight Mail from Dallas to Chicago (steveroeconsulting.wixsite.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Denny Zartman Posted February 14, 2022 Author Share Posted February 14, 2022 I'm looking forward to the four hour version in March. I'm glad it's getting so much attention and praise. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David G. Healy Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 5 hours ago, W. Tracy Parnell said: Regarding Jim D's claim that Kleins could not have received Oswald's order in one day: Debunking Another JFK Myth - Overnight Mail from Dallas to Chicago (steveroeconsulting.wixsite.com) duh... You still posting from that Wendy's way up that in the woods.... re your link above, here is a direct quote from a responder to Dear Mr. Roe. quote on george.t.gram 2h You are right on this, but to clarify the argument, which I’m not sure I agree with either, the issue is not with the mail the issue is that the money order was allegedly deposited in First National Bank by Klein’s the very next day. Klein’s had a street address, not a P.O. Box, so the letter would have needed to be sorted, sent out for delivery, received, processed, brought to the bank and deposited all before around 5 p.m. on March 13th. Again this is not a hill I would die on and I think a rifle was indeed ordered, but this is the argument DiEugenio is making. quote off Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) Thanks Danny and Dave. Talk about silly. But that is Fred Litwin. The film really sent him over the edge. I wonder why? The argument is not that the coupon could have been sent in one day by air mail. It could have arrived in Chicago in one day. But that would have only been the beginning. As you can see, there was no zip code back then. So it would have to have been sorted, then assigned to the proper route, and then delivered to Klein's. Klein's had its own sorting system. In state and out of state, money orders, cash, and checks. Then it would have had to have been deposited at the bank. Just ask yourself why Fred leaves all of that out. And why Parnell missed it. BTW, all mail of that nature today is air mail, and today we have zip codes, and we have high speed sorters, and we have computers and sensors. But yet, when we did it, it took six days; subtracting for Sunday, it would be five. And recall, this is only the beginning of the problems with the entire rifle transaction, from beginning to end. PS Its pretty obvious to everyone that Fred has become the new John McAdams. Edited February 14, 2022 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted February 14, 2022 Share Posted February 14, 2022 (edited) BTW, I have to say this. JFK Revisited is reaching some rather high level people. David Mamet, the famous Pulitzer Prize winning playwright and Oscar nominated screenwriter, got in contact with Oliver and told him how good he thought the picture was. Yesterday morning, Mike Lombardi, the former General Manger of the Browns and a guy who worked with Bill B, called me and we chatted for forty minutes. He wants me on his podcast for the four hour version debut. Edited February 14, 2022 by James DiEugenio Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Michael Crane Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 "JFK Revisited is reaching some rather high level people." I wonder if Joe Rogan has seen it? You would be surprised of his knowledge on the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Pat Speer Posted February 15, 2022 Share Posted February 15, 2022 On 2/14/2022 at 1:09 PM, James DiEugenio said: BTW, I have to say this. JFK Revisited is reaching some rather high level people. David Mamet, the famous Pulitzer Prize winning playwright and Oscar nominated screenwriter, got in contact with Oliver and told him how good he thought the picture was. Yesterday morning, Mike Lombardi, the former General Manger of the Browns and a guy who worked with Bill B, called me and we chatted for forty minutes. He wants me on his podcast for the four hour version debut. Hey, Jim, do you know what happened to Mamet's JFK assassination-related movie? It was supposedly all set to go and starring Cate Blanchett but then it never came out. Did the funding get pulled? Or was it announced before he even had any funding? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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