Lori Spencer Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) Not directly JFKA related, but sort of (depending on your point of view.  I was on Kim Iversen’s Show yesterday to discuss my recent reporting on declassified CIA files revealing the Agency’s 75 year love affair with Yahtzee’s in Ukraine.  The JFKA connection is Allen Dulles: he personally recruited these guys after WWII, and brought many of them to the USA.  Kim is also very interested in the JFKA. We made plans after this broadcast for me to return and discuss the JFK Assassination soon. We hinted at it here but just didn’t have enough time in a 20 minute segment to dive in this time. Hope you find this interesting!   Edited January 18, 2023 by Lori Spencer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 If you’re curious to take a look at the actual documents I’ve highlighted some of the juicy ones in this thread:  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Much as with the JFK Records Act, the CIA is still withholding documents to this day they were required to declassify 25 years ago under the National Socialist War Crimes Disclosure Act — so there may be more to this story than what we currently know.  CIA is playing the same game with both of these acts passed by Congress in the 1990’s. The spirit of both the JFK Records Act and the National Socialist War Crimes Declassification Act were similar, in that Congress was demanding more transparency from our intelligence agencies — transparency we still aren’t getting in full.  More info on the National Socialist War Crimes Disclosure Act is covered in this thread:  Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) It takes the CIA forever to admit anything, as you all well know.  This video was just uploaded tonight — a vintage 2000 interview on C-SPAN w/ former Senator Shelby, revealing that the CIA made payments to Oswald. Thanks to the JFK Records Act this finally dripped out in the late 90’s — some 35 years after the fact.  (Skip to around the 40 minute mark to hear the caller who asks about the CIA’s payments to Oswald.)  Edited January 18, 2023 by Lori Spencer Added time stamp Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Thanks for sharing, enjoyed the Iversen video. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Bob Ness Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 30 minutes ago, Lori Spencer said: This video was just uploaded tonight — a vintage 2000 interview on C-SPAN w/ former Senator Shelby, revealing that the CIA made payments to Oswald. Huh? I completely missed the part where the payments were mentioned unless you're talking about the random guy who called in and made that claim. Not exactly solid evidence if so. I checked again. At about the 42:00 mark some guy called in and made that claim probably based on Wilcott's testimony which in my mind doesn't really hold up as it has never been corroborated that I know of. Edited January 18, 2023 by Bob Ness Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 ok comrade Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 36 minutes ago, Bob Ness said: Huh? I completely missed the part where the payments were mentioned unless you're talking about the random guy who called in and made that claim. Not exactly solid evidence if so. I checked again. At about the 42:00 mark some guy called in and made that claim probably based on Wilcott's testimony which in my mind doesn't really hold up as it has never been corroborated that I know of. Apologies for the confusion Bob. The video title & description are indeed misleading. Sen. Shelby doesn’t answer the question and likely had no idea. I believe we are still waiting on those documents from CIA, 23 years after this interview. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 (edited) 2 hours ago, Lori Spencer said: my recent reporting on declassified CIA files revealing the Agency’s 75 year love affair with Yahtzee’s in Ukraine.  The JFKA connection is Allen Dulles: he personally recruited these guys after WWII, and brought many of them to the USA. Maybe not surprising given Paperclip and the ratlines, Gehlen, NASA? Was Ukraine part of Gehlen's post war spy network? Edited January 18, 2023 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 We did manage to pry a little more out of them in the Dec. 2022 document dump about Oswald’s adventures in Atsugi, but no payment records… Was Oswald Dosed by the CIA With LSD in Japan? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 17 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: Maybe not surprising given Paperclip and the ratlines, Gehlen, NASA? Was Ukraine part of Gehlen's post war spy network? Absolutely. Much of the Ukraine CIA/MI6 spy operations were run out of the Munich station! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted January 18, 2023 Author Share Posted January 18, 2023 Stepan Bandera and Mykola Lebed’s CIA contacts were in the Munich station. That’s where Bandera was, working on getting his visa to the U.S., the day before his assassination by a KGB agent in October 1959. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Benjamin Cole Posted January 18, 2023 Share Posted January 18, 2023 Kim Iversen is a favorite of mine. I hope she can put together a solid show on the JFKA, and especially the recent Biden Administration snow job. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Lori Spencer Posted January 20, 2023 Author Share Posted January 20, 2023 On 1/18/2023 at 4:34 AM, Benjamin Cole said: Kim Iversen is a favorite of mine. I hope she can put together a solid show on the JFKA, and especially the recent Biden Administration snow job. Kim recently did a good JFKA segment with Ryan Grim of The Intercept about his latest dig into the Dec. 2022 document dump. Hope she will do more! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted January 20, 2023 Share Posted January 20, 2023 (edited) On 1/17/2023 at 11:36 PM, Ron Bulman said: Maybe not surprising given Paperclip and the ratlines, Gehlen, NASA? Was Ukraine part of Gehlen's post war spy network? Hi Lori. If I'd thought about it more before asking this question, I should have concluded so. Correct me if I'm wrong. From memory. Dulles in the OSS n WWII, stationed in Switzerland overlooked Natzi - US banking transactions, oil deals, IBM's Jew counting machines, the Holocaust. When Gehlen came down from the mountain after the war was over and was given a US Officer's uniform as a disguise to get him to the US, Dulles was there waiting to greet him. They had him fitted for a new suit from NY's finest clothier. They took a shine to each other, two peas in a pod.    Edited January 21, 2023 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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