David Josephs

Greg, I genuinely appreciate the level of time, detail and research you put into these posts. I hope our disagreeing on their ultimate meaning and my critique of your speculations/hypothesis is not taken personally. Your request about alternatives which you can accept as reasonable sounds eerily like Dulles demanding alternate explanation "if not OSWALD". That is not necessary to disprove a hypothesis... only the examination and authentication of the truths on which the hypothesis is based. Of course it is possible THAT was the gun used by Crafard, or Braden - depending on whose story you choose. Just like when we delve into the story about the origin of the information that Oswald was a paid FBI informant. The information appears credible coming from both credible, and a bit less so, sources. Yet things are not true just because speculation about them can be organized in such a manner to make the most sense. The other thing we seem to overlook is that the people you are quoting were professional XXXXX of the first order. Even to the point of lying about anything and everything just for the sake of lying - these men were Mafia and mafia related... Over the couple of decades posting there are a few red flags in arguments that stand out: "why would they"'s - being incredulous is not an argument "Has there ever been anything like..." - the lack of precedent does not preclude the creation of a new one "what better explanation is there?" - the burden of proof lays in the presenter of the hypothesis. A "better" explanation does not negate the validity of the original hypothesis. Occum's razor is not always the sharpest tool in the bag. The complete lack of source material reference links/images/docs - unlike many others, you do provide snips and pieces to help a reader understand from where you derive your conclusions, yet how hard is it really to give credit where it is due with a link or a mention? Most of us are standing on the shoulders of those who came before and just trying to raise the bar even farther. More than likely someone has offered the same thoughts with the expectation that the future would pick up the cause when new and more revealing information is unearthed. We'd get nowhere here without intelligent discourse among members and the challenging of things put forth as facts.. it is only those who seek to disrupt for the pleasure of it that we need to beware of, identify and censure. In the earliest days of my foray into the JFK malaise I was sure the SBT was possible given what I initially saw in frames 224-230 and set out to better understand why so many said is was not so. What a long, strange trip it's been. And it ain't over by a long shot. I look forward to further discussions - and thanks as I had not been aware of this other pistol story before and find it fascinating. TBH, and secretly, I kinda hope you're right about it. Time may tell, if we're lucky.

Are you offended by the fact I've made these observations? Sadly, being a Cohen and possibly even Jewish does not preclude one from doing whatever it is that man is doing. On a whole though a Jewish community, or a Rabbi, would never put up with it. Cohen (Hebrew: כֹּהֵן, kōhēn, "priest") is a surname of Yehudi, Samaritan and Biblical origins (see: Kohen). It is a very common Jewish surname (the most common in Israel), and the following information discusses only that origin. Cohen is one of the four Samaritan last names that exist in the modern day. One of the greatest explanation of the Jewish relationship with G~d I've heard is that "we have an ongoing discussion with God in order to continually evolve our understand of our existence as humans"; hence the evolving books of the Talmud - which, as the lawyers will appreciate - derives it meanings of the Torah (bible) though precedent and the re-interpretations of these precedents in regards to any specific subject or issue needing resolution or understanding. Jews - orthodox Judaism - expects a person to chose Right from Wrong in every action they take and every thought they have. To further His cause by spreading as much good as possible. Yet in the end even Jews are fallible to human frailties, prejudices and temptations. On a whole though Jewish law and the Talmud is about how people can live peacefully together in a society. And, while male-dominated, the reverence for women in Jewish society is virtually unrivaled in all of history.

He misses one letter, you miss the entire boat. COINTELPRO comes to mind with every one of your posts. Let's see... Jefferson owned slaves yet produced the Declaration of Independence. Obviously being wrong about one thing makes it impossible to contribute and be taken seriously in any other area. I'd bet TikTok wouldn't even put up with you

Greer's head-turn, and the conflict between his words and his action as caught on film. He was staring directly at him as he was killed, crawling ahead at less than 3mph. Citation provided.

The grader of the paper added in the correct answers for him...after he finished the test y'know, so he could get a better score...

I gotta pay more attention... what troubles me is that sarcasm to us becomes re-quotable fact for others as they copy and paste into their arguments elsewhere to try and prove a point about Conspiracy Realists. Marina's testimony... She knew everything they told her to know... although it sometimes took 3 or 4 takes for it to stick.

That gif illustrates how other objects within the frame are moving vertically with a slight horizontal shift, yet the Stemmons sign remains unmoved. Yes, replacing portions of the frame with images from other frames Correct... as to the methods I believe he remains silent as that involves speculation and he deals with mathematical fact and leaves that to experts like Healy to resolve. Thanks for the kind words. Having made my career within mathematics and stats, not understanding his work for quite a while was difficult for me to accept... so I just kept trying harder. It may take some time for others to truly appreciate the spacial thinking he translates into mathematical reality... it is truly one of the most awesome displays in comprehending the subterfuge in the case the JFK community has ever seen and I hope he gets his due someday on a broader stage.

C'mon Joe... really? or you just being sarcastic here? Before he gets to practice, he needs to actually have the rifle... that never happened my friend. There is more than enough material, well beyond the work I've done standing on the shoulders of those before me and adding what I could, that proves beyond doubt that Oswald and that rifle were mutually exclusive. https://www.kennedysandking.com/john-f-kennedy-articles/the-evidence-is-the-conspiracy-the-carbine-on-the-6th-floor https://www.kennedysandking.com/images/pdf/JosephsRifle.pdf

Hi Pete... saw this and just needed to reach out. Is there any way you can send me a copy of that letter? I'd love to add it to my overall "he didn't go to Mexico" file and use it in future papers... The investigation The report

Early on I asked Chris the same thing, and with his use of illustration and gif I think he's more than obliged. At the core, I believe what Chris does is understand what the math should be and then he discovers howt the math was changed to support the altered scenario offered by the zfilm. He also deconstructs the attempts by LN promoters to also use math to hide the reality of how the films tie together visually. There is what happened, and there is the math and evidence offered which singularly puts shots originating at that window and hitting their targets where the film(s) show them, despite the films being altered after being removed from circulation. More recently he has unveiled the Shaneyfelt re-enactment shenanigans which were employed to further hide what was done between 207-212 and other key points in the zfilm. There are some ancient standards within math - like the golden triangle - which Shaneyfelt used as well. One thing sticks out immediately as manipulated math.. the 18.3fps camera speed despite only a 16 and 48 fps setting. The rise and run of Elm street is 18.3:1 so amazingly the camera speed becomes 18.3 feet per second with an averaged constant speed of 11.2mph. These two calculations gives rise to virtually all the the fraudulent evidnece offered related to the events of the assassination. In the real world physical evidence is more valuable than witness statements due to human nature. In the JFK evidence, the physical evidence has been so manipulated by those controlling it that we must look to the consensus statements of the witnesses and give that more weight and literally dismiss the physical evidence as simply not indicative of the events that day. I realize I sound like a broken record... the (physical) evidence really is the conspiracy in this case, while the statements of those there must carry more weight compared to "normal" murder cases. Mr. SPECTER. When was it that Mrs. Kennedy made the statement which you have described, "My God, what are they doing?"Mr. KELLERMAN. This occurred after the flurry of shots.Mr. SPECTER. At that time you looked back and saw Special Agent Hill across the trunk of the car, had your automobile accelerated by that time?Mr. KELLERMAN. Tremendously so; yes.Mr. SPECTER. Now, to the best of your ability to recollect, exactly when did your automobile first accelerate?Mr. KELLERMAN. Our car accelerated immediately on the time-at the time--this flurry of shots came into it.Mr. SPECTER. Would you say the acceleration--Mr. KELLERMAN. Between the second and third shot. See Hill running to the limo AFTER the z313 shot. The evidence for an addition shot which was graphically shown on Gauthier's Jan 20, 1964 presentation of the DP model and spelled out by the Secret Service was simply made to go away. West's was asked to revise his survey and remove the shot for the final WCR exhibit. Representative FORD. All right.Mr. SPECTER. Mr. Kellerman, you said earlier that there were at least two additional shots. Is there any area in your mind or possibility, as you recollect that situation, that there could have been more than two shots, or are you able to say with any certainty?Mr. KELLERMAN. I am going to say that I have, from the firecracker report and the two other shots that I know, those were three shots. But, Mr. Specter, if President Kennedy had from all reports four wounds, Governor Connally three, there have got to be more than three shots, gentlemen.Senator COOPER. What is that answer? What did he say?Mr. SPECTER. Will you repeat that, Mr. Kellerman?Mr. KELLERMAN. President Kennedy had four wounds, two in the head and shoulder and the neck. Governor Connally, from our reports, had three. There have got to be more than three shots.

In the Ruby threat I recently started for that work there is a passage related to GRIFFIN's attack of DEAN for which WADE steps in, calls his buddy LBJ, and Griffin is sent back to be scolded by WARREN. And Ruby down the Ramp becomes the Urban Legend. Just so seedy... ugh.

Very good point Bob... A bit different than Tippit, whose stomach wounds might have still killed him, yet the coup de grace final shot to the head while on the ground just screams execution and pro to me... whoever that was knew he had to insure Tippit would not survive. I had mentioned the ambulance driver's comments re: Tippit, introduces evidence - like his position at the front left wheel and that Royal blue coat which gives one pause to reflect on these minor details which the different people at the scene recall for us yet doesn't fit in with other witness statements. The more and more I consider what the FBI/CIA/DPD did to Ozzie, the more I see and understand him as the sacrificial pawn he was. Very sad how he was played and then removed as it was deemed necessary to the success of the mission.

not so much a revision, just that when John and I worked on the document he did the writing based on our discussions, and the images we found, & I did a little editing yet since it was being put up on the harveyandlee site, I told Jim D in another thread that was why I had not sent it to him. I took our work and created a PPT presentation for my discussion with DPUK which is what you'd see on the zoom which I was spoking over. There are quite a lot a very good articles at his site some of which I "assisted" him in completing or enhancing.. and many others that are just John's pov. Not imagining it Ron.

My pleasure... just so many areas of the case with the millions of pages and zillions of topics. I had not even looked at this in the 30 years I've been doing it. Same with Ruby entering the Annex... Until you devote a few months to finding and verifying the info on a subject, you never truly know how deep the rabbit hole goes - and this for literally every piece of subject matter involved. Exhilaratingly Exhausting

https://texashistory.unt.edu/ark:/67531/metapth337647/m1/2/?q=fingerprints

Here you go Larry https://groups.google.com/g/alt.conspiracy.jfk/c/UFJ3bgrkMxI/m/MoFOGnFGNuAJ At Captain Westbrook's direction Sargeant Pete Barnes retrieved afingerprint kit and began dusting the top side of the passenger dooron Tippit's patrol car for fingerprints (where Helen Markham and JimmyBurt saw Tippit's assailant place his hands.) Barnes told the Commission, "I was told that the suspect (who) shot Tippit had come up to the right side of the car, and there was a possibility that he might have placed his hands on there." After Barnes dusted the top of the car door and right front fender Detective Paul Bentley, Sergeant Bud Owens, and Captain George M. Doughty of the Identification Bureau inspected the area and can be seen on Reiland's WFAA-TV film. Barnes removed "smudged fingerprints" from the right passenger window and "fairly good prints" from the right fender of Tippit's patrol car. Both sets of fingerprints were turned over to the identification bureau and now located at the Dallas Municipal Archives and Records Center in Dallas. Neither set of fingerprints was examined by the Warren Commission to see if they matched Oswald prints taken at DPD headquarters. Sergeant Barnes told the Commission, "There were several smear prints. None of value." But Detective Paul Bentley told the HSCA in 1978, "He (Doughty) lifted good prints from the exterior section of that door immediately below that rolled-down window." (The "smudged" prints taken by Barnes were shown to the Commission, while the good set of prints by Doughty was not.) (Researcher Dale Myers sought to answer the question of whether or not the fingerprints found by Sergeant Barnes belonged to Oswald (Harvey). He obtained crime lab photos of the prints found by Barnes on Tippit's car and Oswald's fingerprint card taken when he was arrested. Myers then asked the senior crime scene technician for Wayne County, Michigan, Herbert Lutz, to compare the two set of prints.) (Myers wrote in his book "With Malice" that Lutz reported the furrows of the fingerprints taken from Tippit's car were wide, while Oswald's fingerprint furrows were much narrower. In addition, the number of ridges and the location of the bifurcations in the patterns were different. Lutz concluded the fingerprints taken by the Dallas Police from Tippit's patrol car were not those of Lee HARVEY Oswald. These fingerprint cards were never entered into evidence in the 26 Volumes.)

When you yourself state you forgot the word DON'T in your post and then don't appreciate the implications of not taking the time to acquaint yourself with this newer body of work.. I agree - not worth either of our time to discuss what you have yet to digest. As to the ancient history your brought up regarding the debunked anomalies, I did not make an argument against them, I agreed and said the newer work in the past 5 years was significantly more revealing and less likely to be as easily explained as Jack White's Moorman comments. The point here Chris, is that the white "thing" in/on/over the grass above Greer's head has not change position despite the limo moving forward a significant distance - and the others in that image also changing position - hence the overlay and bleed-thru used to illustrate the point. If you took the time to even page thru his thread you'd see other such images and gifs which plainly illustrate the obstruction of reality which Shaneyfelt and the FBI used to match the evidence to the altered film. Changes like moving the path of the limo south and east so that line of sight remained the same while representing different frames of the film, the 10" difference in the stand-ip limo, and the movement of the source of the filming and its effect on the Stemmons sign within the re-enactment. I did not come back here to engage in circular discussions with those not willing to make the effort to understand the most recent work while standing rigid on the conclusions of 20 to 30 years ago. As we both know, photogrammetry is a very complicated process, even more so without advanced software if measuring 3D distance from 2D images: One example is the extraction of three-dimensional measurements from two-dimensional data (i.e. images); for example, the distance between two points that lie on a plane parallel to the photographic image plane can be determined by measuring their distance on the image, if the scale of the image is known If you are offering conclusions based on your photogrammetry work I for one would love to see the process you employed and the conclusion they produced. Please show your work. I did do a quick Google search for any of this work you may have offered online but the results only point to this thread and some Imperial reflex camera comments. I fully respect your position on the zfilm based on the knowledge and experience you have - at the moment - but feel certain you will seriously reconsider these conclusions once you embrace the work Chris D. has done... and fully comprehend how nefarious the work of Shaneyfelt was in the face of what Tom Purvis showed us in respect to West's actual survey work. Robert West's survey concluding the first shot at z207 of the extant film. 10 or so feet before the WCR's placement

the "miss" or the "shot" is a hoax Pat? Wishing I had better images of course, yet it appears to me that JFK's head swivels considerably in the span of 1 damaged frame using 153 as an indicator he was definitely looking to his left with 157 appearing as if he still looks in that direction, then the break, and then him facing a different direction. You don't find it just a bit coincidental that we have a splice in the film with the no intersprocket frame exactly where all us crackpots place the first shot which missed? How can you rule out a shot there given the circumstances of the film and what we actually see occur just prior and during that period? Or are you saying the 160 shot did hit him? Sorry for my confusion .

Whatever you say Greg. Thanks for presenting such well sourced and thought out commentary. Amazing how you were able to deduce such a convincing conclusion. Your ability to know what was inside the heads of these people is uncanny. Excuse me if I move on to other things as I have presented all that I wish to on this subject and will let the readers of the thread arrive at their own conclusions.

Tatum does not say point blank, only that he stood over him... the barrel would be at leas 3-5 feet from Tippit so I see no conflict. And who goes over to someone they have shot already in the head to shot again in his stomach? That makes sense to you? As to the different witnesses, I posted the # of shots as described by half dozen of the witnesses and they are all over the place. The ambulance driver claims that Tippit was covered in a Blue Jacket when he got there, had to lift it off to confirm what happened... no one ever mentions that either. Croy claims he was there first among a whole bunch of bs he spews. "intentional from a skilled shooter".

This comes from Armstrong's notebooks compiled over 10 years of visiting the National Archives. He and Malcolm worked with Carol Hewitt to sus out the vast amounts of data they compiled. This being about Igor (not Ivan, my mistake) Rather than take his (Igor) wife Martha with him, he ran away with a teenage girl named Anne Dulin and committed bigamy by marrying Anne in South Carolina. This elopement did not please Anne's stepfather, Stan Cukowski from Village Green, PA, who reported the matter to juvenile authorities and who in the course of his complaint mentioned that Vaganov claimed to have urgent business in Dallas and was traveling in a red Ford Thunderbird with a 2-way radio, a .38 pistol, and a rifle. Benavides describes a red ford falcon he sees at the Tippit scene and the FBI picks up Vaganov almost as quickly as the DPD snags Oswald. See the final paragraph. Not at the Tippit scene but parked in front of Ruby's... more and more interesting, no? Mr. BENAVIDES - No; I guess that is all I can think of right now.I think there was another car that was in front of me, a red Ford, I believe. I didn't know the man, but I guess he was about 25 or 30, and he pulled over.

Again Greg, read the Crafard testimony I posted.. a direct recant of them ever using the Stemmons freeway. How many people have to say that what the FBI wrote in the report was not what the witnesses or POI's actually said or meant. No it is not. and at 5am I 'd doubt there'd be much traffic to deal with as one simply traveled 1.6 miles in less than 8 minutes.

{Sigh} So if I follow your logic, if a handgun is found anywhere in Dallas that weekend it must automatically be associated with a murder happening very recently despite it being a pistol which 100's if not thousands of officers carry daily and not to mention the criminals and/or citizens who may also own that model. And therein lies the problem Greg... you not being able to arrive at a suitable answer has little to do with the facts, evidence and search for why anything happens. We don't need a "reasonable innocent explanation"... what we need is evidence which connects what you are trying to connect beyond speculation. Please understand I am not saying you are wrong Greg, just that you've done little to offer convincing support for the hypothesis beyond "what else could it have possible been?" And it is also reasonable to consider Ivan Vaganov... have you read his story? Here is a map with some key locations from that day... Vaganov looks a bit like LHO and is virtually down the street and would approach from the west. Was also potentially the man seen at the El Chico. And finally for this round, I just showed you that CRAFARD testified he was mistaken about the STEMMONS freeway and the map I posted showed where that sign most likely was... by another Freeway and S. Hall street. Do you bother to read the replies or simply post guns blazing?