David Josephs

Tease.....

Björn Ahlstedts is the person who posted that little blurb about attending ASC "for a few months" during the years 1959-1960 ASC sent a student list for the years 1956 - 1961; here is 1959-60 and he does not appear on the list... so either this list is not accurate or Bjorn is full of it.... why then would this person post such things?

Rather than keep posting on the "Oswald in England" thread - I wanted to start a thread just for Albert Schweitzer College... I'm starting to think that ASC has more to do with this than meets the eye... why was it so hard for them to find? Seems they had a hard time finding it... but they shouldn't have as the School was in existence and in full force in 1960: ALBERT SCHWEITZER COLLEGE http://www.bjornahlstedt.org/bredband/college.htm In the year 1959 to 1960 I spent some months in Switzerland in a college called Albert Schweitzer College. It was situated in the eastern part of Switzerland in Graubünden in a little village called Churwalden near Chur. In this college I and students from the USA, UK, Germany, Brazil, Holland and Sweden studied ethics, philosophy and other subjects. In the evenings we went out eating ‘college special’ which was a kind of sandwich with bündnerfleisch (ham) and eggs. Sometimes we went for trips to Lenzerheide and Parpan and for walks in the mountains. One thing that I remember very well is when we walked up on a mountain and came over the clouds. There were also opportunities for skiing. In this college I met a girl from Brazil. We made trips to Italy (Lugano) and other places pretending that we were married. We left the college after 6 months and after some time in Sweden I traveled to her home in Brazil to marry her and after that she came to me in Stockholm. After a rather short time we found that we were very different and also because I was about to study and was still dependent on my parents it was best for us both to divorce. I have searched for the words ‘Albert Schweitzer College’ and if you search for the exact phrase you will find a lot of documents referring to Lee Harvey Oswald a person who was associated with the assasination of president Kennedy. Oswald made an application to Albert Schweitzer College in March 1959 to attend a study course in the spring 1960. He did not go there though but instead went to Finland and the to the Soviet Union. On the web you will also find some people who were at the college. If anybody tries to search for this College in the Internet and hits my website I would be happy if he or she would write a mail to me. I have recently talked to a daughter to the director there Hans Casparis and I have also got a letter from a friend of the Casparis family. They have told me that the college was managed of Mr Casparis only for a short time after that I left and that they had a successor that was a reverend with a chronic desease. He in his turn was followed by another person who was less successful and the college had to close.This happened around the year 1968. Churwalden is now a ski resort. The building where the college was situated was hired by a meat-dryery which had earlier been a well-known hotel. Later on the meat-dryery became a shopping center and that shopping center reopened the hotel which has the name Hotel Krone. Turns out the school was heavily funded from the US... Boston area....

Hi David, thanks for joining us. You guys are doing a great job here... a real pleasure to follow along.. Thanks for the follow up.... I agree with your thought that between New Orleans and La Havre, something changes. I am under the impression that Albert S college is CIA/Military related... were you aware of the "Friends of Albert Schweitzer College"? Another Armstrong notebook... http://digitalcollections.baylor.edu/cdm/ref/collection/po-arm/id/30218

Don't know how they could put it any more plain... there can't be evidence of his being on certain buses as well as evidence that he wasn't.... Many claim then that he was driven into Mexico or came in clandestinely... yet at the time he supposed went, he was an innocent man traveling to Mexico, and he was supposed to leave a trail of breadcrumbs for Mexico... there is no trail other than the faked transcripts... If he went on ANAHUAC, why is BOSCH creating a completely faked manifest for Flecha Rojas? On Nov 26 the FBI "believes" he took ANAHUAC according to the CIA chronology.. on the 27th we have the reports which follow... they can find an amazing number of Americans and Mexicans with full details of their trips and stays and travel itinerary... Just not Oswald.... https://www.maryferrell.org/showDoc.html?docId=96087#relPageId=4&tab=page LOG OF OSWALD CONTACTS as you read thru these remember that the Cuban Embassy closed at 2pm... two of the calls recorded on the 27th come after 4pm... "He arrives in Mexico City between Midnight and 10:30 am" - boy that narrows it down.... the SOVIET Embassy was closed Saturday... there is simply no way any of this happens in the real world.... the real Oswald would have been turned away... calls thru the switchboard are also not real.... as Hoover called it... this was CIA double-dealing, pure and simple...

Michael - this is Mexico City recap BS.... No photos were taken Oct 1 of this man... Oct 2 and 4... this report repeats the Goodpasture "mistake" of dating the photo the 1st. If there was a person playing Oswald, he was gone by Oct 4 (actually by Oct 1 according to the FBI - who starts and stops explanations as newer, conflicting info surfaces...) FBI also claims he takes ANAHUAC from Monterrey despite Flecha Rojas or del Norte are the buses they put the Aussies, MacFarlands and Bowen... ooops. So if OSWALD took ANAHUAC, the people offering testimony they spoke with "TEX" Oswald or saw him on their bus, are lying... the FBI cannot even keep its lies straight here... There are no photos of Oswald in Mexico cause Oswald was provably in Dallas... after stopping in Austin.

I don't answer rhetorical questions, Professor. I only ask them ===== Put on ignore and you'd be amazed how easy this thread is to read and enjoy... Remains true for all threads... do this to a select group and all of a sudden this place sprouts roses without having to worry so much about the thorns... Options allow you to unhide the comments if one is up for that kind of obtuse abuse... or to see if anything has changed... Yo, ....this would be called "alliteration" as opposed to onomatopoeias which would apply like so: babble 1. to talk/post enthusiastically or excessively, 2. to utter meaningless or unintelligible sounds. imitative origin. Here's a newsflash , many, many here are just as smart if not smarter than you think you are... obtuse is a term used in math as well... it still has to do with something not very pointed or sharp... and from the replies to your invisible posts it is obviously SSDD... Sun Shine and Day Dreams You've chosen to ignore content by ..... Options

Mrs. CHURCH claims that when she asks Oswald for his address to send a Xmas card he spells his name OSWALT with a "T"... if that matters as docs are tracked down...

Are you asking who Robert Webster is? The 5'11" 165 man who look a bit like Oswald? who also defected... who Marina describes when asked about how she met OSWALD... that these 2 things happen so close together is significant... "RAND corp"....

Now that I understand what you're both doing... very interesting indeed... I hope not to interrupt you too much as I try and fill in the blanks... or point in the right direction... You've convinced me that those leading Oswald did not tell him where he was going... or did and told him to stay quiet.... So who could be the conduit for this info? Starting with those on the ship.... There were only 4 people on that ship... Oswald, Mrs. Church, Billy Lord, LT. Colonel George B. Church Billy Lord is going to France to study the french language.... Whitmeyer, Frances Raby was born February 21, 1922 and passed away April 4, 2009. Frances was born in Athens, Alabama to S.W. and Donna Raby. She graduated from Alabama Women's College in Athens. She moved to New Orleans and worked for the Lykes Steamship Co. and also for the City of New Orleans helping to translate French law into English. She later married George Whitmeyer and they moved to Germany where he was stationed after the war. Church and wife on a steamship with Oswald... the men associated with Jack Crichton and the Russian Translators for Marina, and also associated via their unit in Army reserve intel is LUMPKIN and GANNOWAY of the Dallas police/sheriff.... it COULD be a strange coincidence... if you believe in those things in this case.... Then I thought - What about Billy Lord? Where you aware Billy wrote Carter a letter in 77? http://tekgnosis.typepad.com/tekgnosis/2013/12/bill-lords-letter-to-president-jimmy-carter-re-jfk-assassination-and-lee-harvey-oswald-lho-plus-geor.html February 2, 1977 My dear Mr. President: I have refrained from troubling you with the contents of this letter as long as I possibly could. But I have finally decided that a personal letter to you is, in the end, in your interest and in the country’s interest. I am simply transcribing notes which I set down about two weeks ago--and which concern, and must concern, any leader of this country. I was Lee Oswald’s cabin mate on the SS MARION LYKES, which sailed from New Orleans to France in September-October, 1959. I have recently been the subject of surveillance, of harassment, of pressure tactics, and possibly of terror tactics. First, in September, when I was teaching in Japan, someone broke into my house, rifled my papers, but stole nothing. I returned to the United States shortly thereafter. Back in Texas, I was suddenly and improbably the subject of a blitz of contacts by telephone from persons wanting to know urgently and insistently what I knew or remembered about Oswald. No one had asked me anything about Oswald since the time of the Warren Commission investigation twelve years ago. The blitz of calls came out of the blue. It was highly improbable, and, after the break-in, I was suspicious. I stalled these people, who represented two major national publications. During this period of non-cooperation, I received another surprise, another “first” for me. Two Iranian gentlemen appeared at my front door. My mother’s house was up for sale and they were prospective buyers. A small ad had been placed in the paper. The Iranians strode through the house in a very cursory, almost arrogant manner, paced off the front yard, and drove away. The sale of the house had been discussed on the telephone among family; a small ad had been placed. Only one other couple showed up to look at the house. Neither I, nor my mother, who is 63, had ever received a visit from Iranian gentlemen before. One of the parties which has blitzed me with telephone calls trying to persuade me to tell them what I know about Oswald, is engaged in a very costly project which allows them to locate, interview, monitor, and influence every single available person who ever knew Lee Oswald--and this, just in advance of the new governmental investigation by the House Select Committee on Assassinations. I finally consented, not to grant an interview, <page 1> but to allow the publication’s representative to explain their project to me in person. After a lunch with this researcher, I was told that if I had refused even to meet with him, pressurewas in the offing through two Midland men: Mr. Jim Allison, publisher of the ultra-conservative Reporter-Telegram, my employer (out of necessity, and for the moment!), and Mr. George Bush, Jr. The researcher said he had asked an acquaintance, a Mr. Beamis (?), chairman of the Republican Party in Virginia and owner of “a string of hotels” in that state, for help in persuading me to tell what I know about Oswald. After this revelation, and when I still refused to be interviewed, the publication’s leg-man made an effort to purchase my knowledge about Oswald. I refused, and he left. Shortly thereafter, my mother discovered that her telephone had been tampered with. The casing around the dialing apparatus had been pulled out about one-half inch. It was so obvious as to be grotesque. But we cannot doubt that someone entered the house at a time when I was at work and my mother was away; she returned to the house, however, at an unaccustomed time. I have been in anguish for weeks, Mr. President, trying my best to laugh at my apprehensions and to see these events as fortuitous ones. Experience, common sense, and logic persuade me otherwise. So I have been compelled to react to all this in the form of a statement--and it may shed some light on the reasons for the intrusions into my life: Speaking as the man who spent more than two weeks in the same ship’s cabin with Lee Oswald at the time of his 1959 “defection”, and speaking as a man who has been the subject of the above-described tactics of cowards, I offer the following considerations to the American people and to people everywhere: 1. It is the CIA and FBI relations with Lee Oswald which have been covered up since November 22, 1963. 2. It is the CIA and the FBI which have concealed and destroyed evidence of their relations with Oswald prior to November 22,1963. 3. It is the CIA which has, from the beginning, fabricated or distorted certain Cuba-Oswald relations, and certain Cuba-JFK relations, as a smokescreen and decoy to conceal the CIA-Oswald relationship. 4. I can testify, and others can testify, that the CIA did not conduct a real investigation of the so-called defector Oswald in 1959. The CIA has long been concerned about witnesses who can testify to this oversight on their part. <page 2> 5. They did not conduct a real investigation because Mr. Oswald was a bogus defector. 6. The CIA is concerned lest the knowledge that Oswald was a fake defector in 1959, linking him to CIA, also link him with CIA on November 22, 1963. But there is an impressive body of evidence that CIA used--and abused--Oswald as late as November, 1963. 7. It is the CIA-Oswald relation and the FBI-Oswald relation which have necessitated the thirteen-year cover-up. 8. A necessary conclusion is that the CIA and FBI elements in 1963 are suspect in the assassination of John Fitzgerald Kennedy. 9. The assassination of John Kennedy has every appearance of having been our first American coup d’état. Mr. President, as a man, a father, and a concerned citizen, I believe that you would act energetically also, if you were in my shoes. I believe that you should be aware of the fact that one of your fellow-citizens does not feel that he, his wife and three children, and his mother, are safe in Midland, Texas. I conclude, Mr. President, by assuring you that I have the most enormous respect for you and the most hope-inspiring indications of your good will, as of your rare ability to lead the nation. Without flattery, you are quite simply the political light of this period in history. God be with you. I apologize for the crude and, doubtless, offensive tone of this letter. Sincerely, <signed Bill Lord> Bill Lord

OK.. thanks... I'll go check it out.... BTW, were you aware that according to Oswald, his first day in USSR was Oct 16... On Oct 15, WEBSTER is officially listed as Defected... https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10181-10086.pdf

I was under the impression he was only in England for a day or so... Oct 9th 1959... in all of 1959... when are you talking about? From H&L: The SS Marion Lykes docked at La Pallice, France at 9:00 am on October 5. When Billy Lord disembarked, he recalled that Oswald was not in his cabin and he never saw him again. Lord travelled to the French city of Tour and attended the Institute of French Studies.105 A month later, when Lord learned of Oswald's defection to Russia, he wrote a letter to Mr. and Mrs. Church at their home in Florida. The SS Marion Lykes next sailed north to the port of Le Havre, France, where Harvey Oswald and Mrs. and Mrs. Church disembarked.106 Oswald's passport was stamped by the Suerte Nationale (Le Havre Security Police) on October 8, as he disembarked, but it remains unknown where he spent the night. The following day, October 9, Oswald. secured passage to Southampton, England where his passport was stamped by an British Immigration Officer. NOTE: Oswalds method of travel from Le Havre, France to Southampton, England remains unknown. The Warren Commission assumed that he traveled by ship and guessed that his fare was $20.

No one has looked into the movements of LHO in 1959, aside that is from a perfunctory report here and there which concluded that no one knew what Oswald was doing. That statement is - of course - untrue... no one has looked more deeply into Oswald pre-assassination than Armstrong... For example Mervyn... THIS Oswald was released March 1959 with his file sent to DC... When an attempt was made to do his BIO... John Ely runs into all sorts of problems in that there are entire groups of men who were stationed with an OSWALD who the man tasked with compiling his bio simply never heard of... These are the men stationed with the real LEE OSWALD... The real LEE is also the man supposedly on the Tannenbaum video ... It does look like him... and while so many do not put faith in LORENZ... what is the motivation to lie? Where "OSWALD" was in 59-60-61 can be answered in a number of ways, depending on who you ask... Our Oswald lies a few times to different people and heads off to Europe in Sept/Oct 1959 and enters USSR with a very quick visa turnaround....

my understanding: ....not sharp, acute, or pointed; blunt in form and nothing comes up in my search - so far.... You'll find the contents of Fidel's address book in that doc... at least that's what it appears to be - starts on page 82 - as well as the names of a whole bunch of Russians....

LEONOV GOES BACK TO THE MID 50'S.... TAKE YOUR TIME TOMMY... LET US KNOW IF YOU FIND ANYTHING PERTINENT https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/104-10218-10034.pdf - 162 PAGE FILE ON LEONOV... (See buddy... I DO care... but like the rest are tired of the obtuseness... I hope this helps you) DJ

Weisberg: "We must then return to the original essential question, which still goes begging: "How did Zapruder know where to stand?" Did he actually memorize the November 19 route via Dealey Plaza for the JFK motorcade? Did Zapruder then assume that the November 19 route was the operative route for November 22 on November 22?.... From Curry's book... the route image was down MAIN From Nov 19 Dallas newspapers wrote out the route to include Houston to Elm.... Maybe Zap only read the newspapers

The years 1954 - 1956 are very eventful in Oswald's life yet the patterns continue with schools being left just after starting and then a cold trail... What we find is there are no complete 10th grade records... the '55 - '56 school year since we have him at Beauregard for 9th grade '54-'55 While Oswald states he was in Ft Worth from 54 - 56 we have EASTON records from Sept 1955 showing him entering EASTON in New Orleans... then stopping "Incomplete"... the date in the "Left" column is 10/4/56... and at the bottom is states that TRANSCRIPTS SENT TO: Arlgington Heights (Ft Worth) And we have the Oct 2, 1955 note from Marge about them leaving for San Diego in the middle of this month... Mrs. OSWALD. No, sir. Wait. We have a note from the Beauregard School by me that I was going to San Diego. Do you have the note? Mr. RANKIN. We do. Mrs. OSWALD. May I see that note, please? And that is approximately October 5th or the 7th, I think it is, 1955. Mr. DULLES. I think you moved to Fort Worth with Lee in September 1956. (DJ: this is obviously not true yet he is covering for the San Diego and Tujagues problems)Mrs. OSWALD. Yes, sir. So it was in '55. I think that is correct. Let me see. Mr. RANKIN. We are handing you this book that we received from the State of Louisiana that is Commission's Exhibit No. 365, and turn to page 11 and you will find the note you referred to. Mrs. OSWALD. To the school. All right, gentlemen, this is a surprise. This is my note, isn't, to the school, that I am moving to San Diego. And it has been blasted in all the papers how I moved around, and I was going to San Diego. Gentlemen, I had nothing to do with this note, nothing whatsoever. Lee, my son, wrote the note-on or about October 5th or the 7th--October 7th. And now comes the story why he wrote the note. If you will see here, this is Lee's handwriting, to the letters. Marge then claims she had nothing to do with that note - that LEE wrote.... and it was found in the New Orleans EASTON HS records... but then why would LEE ,mention his birth certificate ???? NOTE: LAURA KITTRELL worked at the Texas Employment Commission who remembered that Oswald stated he had a messenger-boy job in CA for about 6 months... That would be from Oct 1955 thru the end of the school year, June 1956. (On Feb 1, 1956 JOHN PIC joined the Air Force and listed 3006 BRISTOL RD FT WORTH as his address c/o his mother... as we will see, the WCR pushes that to 1958. WHY? for at the same time we have HARVEY in San Diego, and LEE at 126 Exchange in New Orleans... Interesting conflict. yet the WC recap of her residences has her at 126 Exchange in 1956 while BRISTOL is not used until MAY, 1958... Amazingly, the two places are only 4 houses apart... Why PIC would use an address supposedly not used by his mother for another 2 years, as his c/o address...? The ONLY time Oswald lived in Ft Worth during 1954 - 1956 was from July - October of 1956 (he was supposedly at BJHS in New Orleans)... When the records show he leaves to join the Marines. Which once again leaves a big hole from JUNE 1955 until JUNE 1956. the New Orleans Phone book for 55/56 lists a "Margt OSWALD at 120 N Telemachus" except BJHS has him listed at 126 Exchange Place as does WARREN EASTON HS as of Sept 1955. This is the SAME 120 N TELEMACHUS that MARGARET KEATING OSWALD lived in with her husband ROBERT LEE and stepfather E.L. SLATTERY. When they divorced, ROBERT goes to live with his brother at 220 S TELEMACHUS which is literally across CANAL 2/10th of a mile away. ......while in his brother's questioning, Robert says he was working at TUJAGUES in July 1955... again in New Orleans... We are to remember that evidence offered about the bus trip down to Mexico, once in MONTERREY, 2 Australian women claim he befriends them and tell them he is from FT. WORTH... they in turn nicknamed the man "Tex"... yet in the real world, Oswald spent very little time in Ft Worth after leaving in 1952.... he spends time in Dallas and Ft Worth just after he gets back in 1962, but for the most part, NEW ORLEANS appears to have been not only his birthplace, but home more times than not during his pre-Marine days. Robert even remembers them in New Orleans during this time... just after LEE graduates 9th grade and writes his BIO. It is quite obvious that DULLES does not want to deal with 1954/1955/1956... It is also obvious that LEE HARVEY OSWALD declined to include his time at BEAUREGARD JUNIOR HIGH or the 2 years prior in NYC, in favor of those years being in Ft Worth... From what we can tell, Oswald's 6 weeks or so at Arlington Heights from Sept to Oct 1956 is the only time he spent in Ft Worth during those years... Boy, you'd think this info dealt with someone else entirely...

Nice of them to mention that Oswald supposedly returns AFTER THE CONSULATE IS CLOSED... Of the "visits", more occurs when both locations are closed then during normal business hours... And it truly amazes me that TERESA PROENZA is not mentioned....

She's involved with the Communist Party in Mexico... this pdf "The person thru which American Communists who desire to go to Cuba, must clear" https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32311385.pdf This one is very interesting since MORA talks of Oswald being linked to Mexico through his activities BEFORE his trip to USSR.... https://www.archives.gov/files/research/jfk/releases/docid-32126915.pdf Good to see you here B.A....

I'm waiting like everyone, for the Hollywood 8 version of this frame.... It's said the black square literally hovers over the image in stereoscope. But here is a comparison... I crushed out the frame.... Nothing looks like that square... Even the deep blacks behind Greer.

She just moves a bit forward cause of her being perpendicular from the waist up... Plus, a number of FRAMES are missing here which would make the motion even more pronounced... Here is the best they could do covering the hole... When blacks get crushed, they don't form a square... As can be seen by Jackie's hair

The investigation knew of Tague in Dec.... And even mentions the curb and seen nick in it... Must Have been lost in the shuffle

I thought Nosenko was simply to refute Golitsyn whose predictions and defection appear the real deal.... But without Leonard McCoy (i know, right?) refuting the Nosenko Conclusions, and somehow listened to, the entire pov towards him changed...