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Then how do you explain the Zap film not showing the blowout in the back of the head and the blob on the right front? Did experts Zavada and Fielding just miss these "obvious artifacts"? Hmmm...

Tony, just shooting from the hip here, but I read that Marylin Sitzman convinced Zapruder to go back to the office and get his camera. Could the "them" refer to people in the office? BTW, I don't discount the idea that Zap was being "run" by some people...

Indeed Ron. Doug also suggested the Z film was shot at 48 fps. All kinds of data: head movement, exit debris, reactions of other occupants, limo speed, shot sequence, etc. could have been removed and still present a coherent film. And to Jeremy, there were (3) copies (possibly 4) and one original already in existance by Friday afternoon. Pretty hard to make a case that the film was accidentally destroyed when there are already four or five copies floating about.

The one thing Dino Brugioni saw in his version of the film, that he distinctly remembers, was the huge billow of pink cloud material rising far above Kennedy's head. He was quite adamant. I doubt his memory about that was fogged. We don't see that in our version. In my view, frame removal is almost certain.

Then, of course, there's the idea suggested by Doug Horne and others, that the Z film was recorded at 48 fps and edited down to closer to 16 fps like the other cameras. I wonder how much the Z film would have captured that the other films didn't. After editing, wouldn't all films still sync with each other?

The only way would have been if JFK's head was rotated toward the GK at some point--something we don't see in the Zapruder film. Dr. Mantik, based on his studies of the X-rays in the Archives, believed there were 3 shots to the head--above the right eye, tangential entrance just above and in front of the right ear, and a posterior shot at the base of the skull. Witnesses say the shots were nearly simultaneous. Any of the shots could easily have rotated JFK's head to make it possible for a shot from the GK to impact Hargis. Of course, none of this is seen in the manipulated Zap film. Another thing to ponder, is that the metalic debris trail across the top of the head means that JFK must have been sitting upright at the time of the shot. We don't see that in the Z film either.

The video Chris B. linked to shows how that is reconciled. What I can't reconcile is, if the rear blowout was caused by the shot from the South Knoll, how was it that Bobby Hargis was hit so forcefully by blood and brain matter? Another shot from the Grassy Knoll?

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Hey Kirk- If you're serious: perfect! If you're being tongue in cheek: very funny.

I know it's beside the point, but it's a pet peeve of mine. It drives me nuts! The phrase is "champing at the bit" not chomping at the bit. There, I've said it.🙂

There is a vast array of problems facing humankind that would be solved with population control. There aren't very many problems left that wouldn't be solved by population control. I have been in favor of population control since the early seventies.

Calvin, Andrej was making a joke. It's YOU. That's what he meant.

Typical Lance wall of words...

I just had my second shot yesterday. I was still in the process of pulling up my short sleeve when the EMS guy said he was done. He stuck me and had a bandaid on me and I didn't feel a thing. Maybe we can vaccinate these morons in their sleep. You know, a deep state conspiracy of sorts.

You guys are right. The use of zooming was used to manipulate what the frames showed. I'd never noticed before that the camera is much more zoomed-in in z133 versus z01 and 02, as well as later in the film.

People can say whatever they want about Biden, but one thing is clear: he is totally and completely commited to turning the United States toward peace in the long term. You can see it when he speaks. He's got no hidden agenda. Reminds me of John Kennedy.

Everybody's involved ...even the American voters!

The language here is remeniscent of "Reefer Madness". Cannabis will turn you into a Communist and make your eyeballs hang from their sockets.

David Lifton, thanks very much for weighing back in. In my mind, this all gives credence to the John Liggett story ...a quick and sloppy job of evidence destruction. Done on the plane back to Washington? The assasination happened 4 days before my 11th birthday. It is seared in my memory. I remember watching the live feed during Oswald's transfer on Sunday morning when someone, out of nowhere, jumps out and shoots Oswald in the guts. I was stunned and ran to tell my mother what just happened. I followed everything for weeks afterward ...the Life articles and pictures. But, soon it all went dormant in my mind. I was somewhat aware that the Zapruder film was out in the open circa 1975, but it wasn't until Stone's JFK that everything was thrust forward. I watched the movie in the theatre 3 times just to see the Zapruder film again ...couldn't believe my eyes. Thanks David, for your work.

The man built himself an alternate reality, and is now totally distraught over the newest developements in that alternate reality. C'mon man, just change your mind! Jeez...

Very well said Robert. But I don't know if I have the courage to be that resolute.

Thank you Mica. I didn't realize this info was known already. I read Best Evidence in the early '90's. There is a good deal I know now that I didn't know then, so much of it didn't really register.

Fancy artwork!

Thank you for posting this link Doug. Very, very interesting interview. Along with most others, I anxiously await "Final Charade." The little teasers Lifton leaves for us ..."the esophagus was hanging out of the throat wound", "throat wound sewed up with sutures" ??! And he suggests he understands what the original plan for the body and the evidence the body would show were. "Best Evidence" was the first book I read after seeing Stone's JFK. It was a paradigm shift for me. I hold David Lifton in very high regard. I have always wondered where the pre-autopsy body alterations were done and we may get an answer. David Lifton and Doug Horne are my favorites.

The guy with the glasses, escorting Brennan, is Sheriff Bill Decker. At 2:00:30, you see video of him. The narrator refers to him as Decker.