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I feel Trump and gang should be in jail for this coup attempt. 

And I can't understand how half of all Americans don't feel this same way.

It seems so clear cut to me.

In the least, for Trump's purposeful non-action for 2 hours while this huge violent and traumatizing mob attack against almost all our Congress ( with many serious injuries and even death! ) and with our second most important Democracy landmark being trashed was occurring right in front of his TV watching eyes and more than one person in his war/ music playing cheering room pleading with him to do something more than "nothing" to protect the attacked!

I really believe that if our most esteemed and well known elder statesmen journalists and pundits like George Will and others would call this coup crime out for what it was ( the most serious act of sedition since the Civil War ) instead of remaining silent or almost silent about it...lynch mob coup inciter Trump might be looked at in the honest reality way he should be. 

January 6th, my wife and I watched this mob attack live on TV in utter gut wrenching shock and disbelief!  It was actually scary and extremely unsettling.

It was like watching one of those Hollywood "our DC government under attack" films only "this was for real!"

Our senators and congress persons cowering in fear. Police battling tooth and nail against death threat screaming hundreds.

It was really traumatizing to see. Like 911 we were saying "what has this world come to?" America descending into violent mob madness.

Our own Capital Building under destructive attack by hundreds of screaming mob Brown Shirt goon squad types shouting Trump slogans and kill Mike Pence and Nancy where are you? Bashing in Nancy Pelosi's office door, trashing her office stealing her lap top?

Trump has brought us to the brink. He really has.

Hard to believe almost all our main stream media cannot report this current state of national affairs in it's true reality. It's like they just want to pretend the Capital building insurrection wasn't that bad and none of this is that threateningly real, dangerous and important.

But it is.

By the way, hope to see Jim D's and Oliver Stone's new film this Friday evening here on the West Coast just feet from the rocky, wave crashing shore line.

And on this 58th JFK anniversary I will light a candle and pray for the full truth to someday come out.

 

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     Here's a review of Congressman Adam Schiff's new book, Midnight in Washington

    Let's recall that Schiff served on the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee during the suppressed Russia-gate investigation and Trump's Nunes Memo stunt.  Schiff vehemently disagreed with the whitewashed GOP HIC Report on Russia-gate in the spring of 2018.

    Does anyone else remember when Republican Congressman Mike Conaway reported that the Republican-controlled House Intelligence Committee had not looked for evidence of "collusion," and had found none?  🤥

    So much for Jeff Carter's incessant pettifoggery denying the facts about Russia-gate, Ukraine-gate, and Trump's January 6th coup attempt.

Midnight in Washington

Adam Schiff’s Insider Account of the Fight to Save Our Democracy

https://www.thebulwark.com/adam-schiffs-insider-account-of-the-fight-to-save-our-democracy/

November 17, 2021

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4 hours ago, Joe Bauer said:

I feel Trump and gang should be in jail for this coup attempt. 

And I can't understand how half of all Americans don't feel this same way.

It seems so clear cut to me.

 

2020 as a whole, the election, and the debacle that followed it, made a lot of people just want to tune out the madness for a while and enjoy some relative normalcy. I don't blame them, I think there was definitely some PTSD happening to many.

As people have time to reflect, their disgust with Trump and 1/6 will grow. The charges that will come forth from the investigation will further that sentiment, IMO.

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Buffalo Horns sentenced to 41 months!

 

Whew! Ben's "Save my lulu's campaign " has been dealt a severe blow. His Q Anon shaman, Jacob Chansley (a.k.a. Angeli) or "Buffalo horns" has been sentenced to 41 months in prison! Apparently he gave a 31 minute plea for lenience promising he would never do anything like this again. The judge said that it was the most touching plea for innocence he had ever heard and then hit him with 41 months!

It does seem a bit much because an identical 41 month sentence was given to a violent offender who brutally beat a Capitol cop.

But honestly, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. High profile people do pay a price, I assume anywhere.

Maybe he can get off in a couple of years. Though I think he can appeal.

 

https://13wham.com/news/nation-world/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-sentenced-41-months-january-6-insurrection-us-capitol-washington-dc

 

As I recall, someone paid his ticket out to Washington that day.

Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot. The Trump people have been looking desperately for photo evidence just like this to foment trouble through guilt by association. Here he is with Rudy Giuliani.

But you've barely seen this photo in the msm. Doesn't that indicate some sort of restraint that you know Trump people would have never really exhibited?

jake-angeli.jpg?w=510

 

 

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5 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

Buffalo Horns sentenced to 41 months!

 

Whew! Ben's "Save my lulu's campaign " has been dealt a severe blow. His Q Anon shaman, Jacob Chansley (a.k.a. Angeli) or "Buffalo horns" has been sentenced to 41 months in prison! Apparently he gave a 31 minute plea for lenience promising he would never do anything like this again. The judge said that it was the most touching plea for innocence he had ever heard and then hit him with 41 months!

It does seem a bit much because an identical 41 month sentence was given to a violent offender who brutally beat a Capitol cop.

But honestly, I'm not going to lose any sleep over it. High profile people do pay a price, I assume anywhere.

Maybe he can get off in a couple of years. Though I think he can appeal.

 

https://13wham.com/news/nation-world/qanon-shaman-jacob-chansley-sentenced-41-months-january-6-insurrection-us-capitol-washington-dc

 

As I recall, someone paid his ticket out to Washington that day.

Imagine if the shoe was on the other foot. The Trump people have been looking desperately for photo evidence just like this to foment trouble through guilt by association. Here he is with Rudy Giuliani.

But you've barely seen this photo in the msm. Doesn't that indicate some sort of restraint that you know Trump people would have never really exhibited?

jake-angeli.jpg?w=510

 

 

Right, the penniless gadfly from Phoenix, Mr Buffalo Horns, who has been in solitary confinement since turning himself into the FBI office in Phoenix shortly after Jan. 6, has been sentenced to 41 months in prison. He assaulted no one. I feel so much safer now. 

1.6 was political theater from the start, through the holding the flag-draped coffin of Brian Sicknick in state inside the Rotunda of the Capitol (the Capitol Police officer who died on Jan 8 from a stroke), to the Jan. 6 committee gong-show brought to you by Liz Cheney. 

US AG Merrick Garland refuses to answer questions, put to him by members of the US Congress, if there were federal assets, agents or infiltrators in the crowd on Jan. 6. 

Remember, said Garland, we never discuss such matters. Protecting sources and methods. 

Yes, the Deep State is good! Good! It protects us from danger and subversives!  The M$M tells you so. 

 

 

 

 

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Jan 6 gong show? Are you serious?

I have no idea what goes through the minds of people who poo poo the insurrection. We almost lost our country.

Don't you care that the VP was threatened as well? What were you doing, cheering on the sidelines, rooting for the republicans to be able to stay in power?

I am proud of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for standing up to that.

Something had to be done.

I find the current Republican party to act pretty high school. It's embarrassing, really.

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1 hour ago, Kathy Beckett said:

Jan 6 gong show? Are you serious?

I have no idea what goes through the minds of people who poo poo the insurrection. We almost lost our country.

Don't you care that the VP was threatened as well? What were you doing, cheering on the sidelines, rooting for the republicans to be able to stay in power?

I am proud of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for standing up to that.

Something had to be done.

I find the current Republican party to act pretty high school. It's embarrassing, really.

Kathy B--

Well, I share your impression of the 'Phants, but add in the Donks. 

The curiosity of our age is the that new Donks, aka neo-con Donks, may be tighter with the Deep State than the 'Phants, and certainly the Trump wing of the 'Phants. 

Liz Cheney and Hillary Clinton are two of a kind, no? Have they ever been seen together? Maybe they are the same person. 

My impression is the Jan. 6 committee is largely political theater.  I assume Cheney joined on the condition that committee findings and conclusions were already written and she approved. 

In DC, no one joins or finances a study, hearing or investigation without an understanding what the findings or conclusions will be. Cheney is a Deep State senior apparatchik and plays hardball. 

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Now that the west has nukes, the only possible threat the government and media can try selling to the public is a guerilla threat. So, every time somebody breathes it's terrorism. I remember when the left-wing disliked calling everything terrorism. Only ignorant people would think that the western militaries are threatened by guerilla warfare. Western nations with their nukes are too spoiled to know the meaning of existential crisis, so they think they can just throw away everybody's rights just because a pen dropped.

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5 minutes ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Kathy B--

Well, I share your impression of the 'Phants, but add in the Donks. 

The curiosity of our age is the that new Donks, aka neo-con Donks, may be tighter with the Deep State than the 'Phants, and certainly the Trump wing of the 'Phants. 

Liz Cheney and Hillary Clinton are two of a kind, no? Have they ever been seen together? Maybe they are the same person. 

My impression is the Jan. 6 committee is largely political theater.  I assume Cheney joined on the condition that committee findings and conclusions were already written and she approved. 

In DC, no one joins or finances a study, hearing or investigation without an understanding what the findings or conclusions will be. Cheney is a Deep State senior apparatchik and plays hardball. 

Hmm, what brought that up?

Ben, i notice a pattern with you about women, either their super powerful evil shrews that you obsess about for repeated posts like, Liz Cheney, Hilary Clinton, and Amy Klobuchar or you actually display pictures of what you depict  as hopeless little women who were at the 1/6 riots and ask us to accept that they''l l never be a threat again by their picture alone!

Is that that kind of conservative thing that you "want a girl just like the girl who married dear old Dad. "

heh heh

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2 hours ago, Kathy Beckett said:

Jan 6 gong show? Are you serious?

I have no idea what goes through the minds of people who poo poo the insurrection. We almost lost our country.

Don't you care that the VP was threatened as well? What were you doing, cheering on the sidelines, rooting for the republicans to be able to stay in power?

I am proud of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for standing up to that.

Something had to be done.

I find the current Republican party to act pretty high school. It's embarrassing, really.

Well said.  They do seem a bit cliqueish, maybe even somewhat introverted?  

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14 hours ago, Kathy Beckett said:

Jan 6 gong show? Are you serious?

I have no idea what goes through the minds of people who poo poo the insurrection. We almost lost our country.

Don't you care that the VP was threatened as well? What were you doing, cheering on the sidelines, rooting for the republicans to be able to stay in power?

I am proud of Liz Cheney and Adam Kinzinger for standing up to that.

Something had to be done.

I find the current Republican party to act pretty high school. It's embarrassing, really.

You're being too kind, Kathy.

The Trumpsters in the GOP today are acting more like kindergartners.

Minutes After Being Censured, Gosar Retweets Offending Ocasio-Cortez Video

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Meanwhile….

 

Does locking away critical data from public scrutiny for decades sound familiar to anyone on this forum? Maybe in 2076, when the FDA comes clean (assuming the president doesn’t delay the release of the files… ::cough: :::cough::), we can finally see how bad it all was. 
 

This “Trump bad, everything else fine” mentality is really long in the tooth at this point. Absolutely zero democrats have mentioned the BMJ whistleblower and most do not have a clue what they are talking about when it comes to the FDA/CDC/WHO, but they still manage to talk about Trump.

 

Pfizer did exactly what they were criminally convicted for ten years ago, falsified safety data, the BMJ is even publishing about it and no one on the left cares. Moderna and the government share the vaccine patent. There is a clear record of gain of function research on corona viruses for the last 15-20 years funded by the DOD through cut outs like Eco-Health Alliance and the University of NC. None of this discussed at all on the left and it seems no one is capable of talking about it, its “trump-talk”. They have completely submitted sovereignty to corporations that answer to the davos crowd and its disgusting they even call themselves democrats imo. 
 

 

https://aaronsiri.substack.com/p/fda-asks-federal-judge-to-grant-it

 

https://www.bmj.com/content/375/bmj.n2635

 

No one seems to blame twitter for censoring trumps tweet telling the protesters to go home and respect police, instead, “arrest the traitor!” in the best Robespierreian tradition.

 

 

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1 hour ago, Dennis Berube said:

Meanwhile….

Does locking away critical data from public scrutiny for decades sound familiar to anyone on this forum?

It’s called “Lack of Transparency”
Trump is a poster child for it

Maybe in 2076, when the FDA comes clean (assuming the president doesn’t delay the release of the files… ::cough: :::cough::), we can finally see how bad it all was. 

2021-2076 = 55 years
That’s about the same amount of time Trump has taken “stonewalling” the public using tax evasion methods created by daddy and his accountants.

This “Trump bad, everything else fine” mentality is really long in the tooth at this point.

No, it’s not.
He is a bad apple and deserves some jail time.

Absolutely zero democrats have mentioned the BMJ whistleblower

I’m willing to give the expedited process for vaccine creation(especially this one) some latitude.
If the whistleblower was wrongly terminated, she will have her day in court and I hope she sues the heck out of Ventavia/Pfizer and is duly compensated for it.

and most do not have a clue what they are talking about when it comes to the FDA/CDC/WHO, but they still manage to talk about Trump.

Guilty as charged.

Pfizer did exactly what they were criminally convicted for ten years ago, falsified safety data, the BMJ is even publishing about it and no one on the left cares.

I’m fairly certain, many, if not all of us would prefer “full transparency” and honesty, we just don’t have much control over it regardless of our party affiliations.

Only time will tell in regards to the adverse affects from the vaccines.

Moderna and the government share the vaccine patent. There is a clear record of gain of function research on corona viruses for the last 15-20 years funded by the DOD through cut outs like Eco-Health Alliance and the University of NC. None of this discussed at all on the left and it seems no one is capable of talking about it,

“Many have the impression that GoF research involves making an organism more deadly – for example, increasing the capacity of a virus to cause disease. That impression is incorrect. Certainly GoF research might lead to a more dangerous organism, but most of the time that is not the goal.
There are two broad approaches to GoF research. I’ll illustrate them with viruses but the principles could apply to any organism. In one approach, a virus is passaged in a host until a virus with different properties is obtained. An example is the adaptation of a strain of poliovirus – the type 2 Lansing strain – to replicate in mice and paralyze them. The Lansing strain does not infect mice, but an investigator passed the virus 99 times from mouse to mouse and ended up with a new strain that could now paralyze the mice. The new version of the virus had a new property – it could now infect mice. This experiment was GoF research.
Another way to do GoF research is to use recombinant DNA technology to engineer changes in the genome of the organism. In experiments done in my laboratory, we took a small piece of the genome of the mouse-adapted Lansing strain of poliovirus – coding for just eight amino acids – and spliced it into the genome of another poliovirus that is unable to infect mice. The recombinant virus from this experiment had a new property – the ability to infect mice. This experiment would also be classified as GoF.”

They have completely submitted sovereignty to corporations that answer to the davos crowd and its disgusting they even call themselves democrats imo. 

As non-wealthy individuals, we are surely at a major disadvantage compared to major corporations.

No one seems to blame twitter for censoring trumps tweet telling the protesters to go home and respect police, instead, “arrest the traitor!” in the best Robespierreian tradition.

Two hours after Trump incited and then viewed the events unfold safely from his bunker, realizing the coup was not going to succeed, he told his rioters(still whining about a stolen election) to go home.
Here’s a brief reminder for everyone that conveniently forgot the events of that day:

https://www.kron4.com/news/politics/president-trump-tells-protesters-at-capitol-to-go-home/

 

 

 

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