Allen Lowe

FIrst of all, Michael, you do the same thing repeatedly here - cite sources as unreliable because of their affiliations, past statements, etc. Please stop the bullshit - calling me "rabid" because I disagree with you. Worthy of Marjorie Taylor Green. And please stop the disgustingly dishonest debate method which implies I think we should burn the books of people we disagree with otherwise. Truth is, if this was the standard, with your insane advocacy of our fighting in Vietnam, there would be a giant pyre outside on my lawn. But I respect the JFK work you've done, which proves you are blindly and willfully wrong in this argument - I take these things as they come, and you yourself have brought enormous discredit on your prior work by taking these murderous and reactionary political positions. But I still read your work. As for not trusting Mamet because of his political positions, it does damage my view of other things he says because it shows such huge intellectual gaps - as do your posts which, yes, would cause me to peruse your other claims with greater skepticism. Anyone who, 50 years later, supports mass murder (the war in Vietnam) is not gonna remain on my reading list.

perfect topic: No proof, no facts, no real info. Stone "may well hold knowledge." Sure, and so may 1,000 other people who may still be alive from that era.

we need to remember that Mamet is a Trump supporter and has been quoted as saying Trump did a great job; this immediately makes him, to my mind, extremely untrustworthy.

in terms of appearance, how many tramps have you known and met?

Steve - just because someone talks doesn't mean they are saying something. NOTHING you quote puts LHO there with a rifle, nothing has him firing the rifle, nothing has him hiding the rifle. A million bullets would fit that rifle - ever hear of a firing range? You disappoint me, you are usually more clever than this in concealing your lack of knowledge. The LN case has sunk down so low that it has gone (as you have) where the sun don't shine. There were men there, a car with a license plate that was later cut out; and besides, think about it - if Oswald couldn't hit THAT target, how would he hit any other, especially one that was moving (and a feat which no sharp shooter has ever replicated; and don't start with your examples, I am talking about HITTING a moving target, not just getting shots off; even someone like you could probably do that)? So, Steve....your time is up. As a matter of fact it has long since passed. Please slink off into the LN sunset.

Earth to Steve Roe: Where is your proof? You LN nuts are all the same - you demand material, empirical proof until you don't demand material, empirical proof, which is when YOU make an argument. And honestly, the concealment idea is the dumbest effing thing I have heard in the whole JFK LN fiasco. Yeah, he could have buried it, you might have helped him. Anything is possible in LN Land. Try again, we on the other side are not that dumb.

it's actually not certain that he was armed at the theater; are there any police evidence photos of the hand gun? We have only the Dallas cops' say-so, no evidentiary proof, as far as I know (other than the aural reports and supposed notes of what he said in the interrogation, for which there is no documented - as in recorded, or stenographer-driven - proof or confirmation. I think it is possible that he had some part in the whole thing, but there is no possibility he fired any gun; there is nothing placing him on the third floor, we know from the book by Barry Earnest that he did not descend from the sixth floor after the shooting, he was spotted in other parts of the building close to the time of the shooting. None of this adds up. The more we know, the less we know.

as for Lemay, LBJ thought he was involved in the JFK assassination, and told this to John Kenneth Galbraith (as reported by his son James).

Yes, but we have no reason to believe that, at the time he fled to the theater, he knew he was a patsy. As John Martino said, he was supposedly meeting someone who would get him out of the country. If this was true he may have had some connection to the plot.

no, no. DeMartino TOLD HIS WIFE that JFK was going to be hit in Dallas that day. And since you now profess to admit they were honest, I want to welcome you to the other side. As you do, by association, now admit that DeMartino had advanced knowledge (this will probably get you expelled from the LN'er country club along with Lance but don't worry, I can't get in either, because it's probably restricted).

what? WHAT? Ruby killing LHO ONLY makes sense as part of a conspiracy. There was NO OTHER REASON (except the one he made up as directed by his lawyer to keep Jackie from having to return to Dallas to testify) for him to kill LHO. Plus, we have Ruby ON FILM saying it was a conspiracy. Is that good enough for you? Or do you need to exhume his body for questioning? Oi, you guys wear me out. It's like wack-a-mole - you lose one argument to us so you pop up with another, equally crazy but helpfully distracting.

sure, Lance, they could have met in Dealey Plaza, or maybe at your house. Apparently, from everything I have read, you were there. But all dopey-ness aside, I suppose LHO went to the theater that day to catch the early show? That's kinda the problem with you LN'ers; you don't really think for yourselves, you regurgitate disinformation that is supplied to you, leaving huge logical gaps. There would be no other reason for LHO to head out there. Unless you (and your secret sources) know something that no one in the last 60 years has known.

so anything not based on primary sources is wrong? Ok, you don't exist. Prove otherwise.

yes, except for the fact that they have been confirmed by Martino's wife and son (who were initially reluctant) and various news reporters. So thanks for today's Stupid Break, David .

sigh...Lance....you are The Man Who Knows Too Little. John Martino, who it has been confirmed had pre-knowledge of the assassination, told John Cummings (a Newsday reporter) that Oswald went to the theater to meet a contact - and the rest - at least to those of us with a clue - is history.

where have you been? Ruby may have been lucky - or not - but the truth is he was stalking Oswald, and this is where the opportunity finally presented itself. He was first at the DPD, then was at the press conference (where he corrected Free Cuba to "Fair Play for Cuba Committee"; wow, the guy was really on top of stuff). When you have a threat hanging over your head - kill LHO or else - your dog will tend to take second place, especially as Ruby, a Mafia bag man, was confident the murder would make him some kind of hero. Really, Lance, your sudden omnipresence around here with uber-factoids is itself a means of factoid dispensation. Please go back to your handler and tell him/her that your mission has failed.

you are entirely missing the point about Nagell's whereabouts. You really think, if they went after him, a receipt from a motel would be sufficient? Look at Oswald and Mexico; nobody knows for sure if he was there, but that didn't bother the Warren Report. And we know Oswald could not have been on the 6th floor shooting; does this exonerate him? Where have you been? The truth is that Russell book on Nagell, when it first came out, had what seemed like a lot of wild stories, but many of which, in our current day, thanks to researchers like Larry Hancock and Jim DiEugenio have been confirmed; like the use of a supposed squad which was supposed to be going for Castro but instead turned their guns on JFK. And that's just the tip of the iceberg. There are revelations like that all over Dick Russell's book. And I cannot believe people are still citing Nagell's brain injury as proving he was unreliable - the unreliable, mentally damaged aspect of Nagel was clearly jhis LEGEND. It was set up to make him look flakey and to throw people off. This guy was also declared competent (by different doctors) and his conversations with Russell are coherent and intelligent. Re-read the book if it's been a while. It all looks a lot less outrageous than it did when it came out.

one thing we are missing is that Baker's story about Oswald and the lunchroom is possibly a fiction concocted as part of the cover up. His original affidavit, made on 11/22/63, says "as we reached the third or fourth floor I saw a man walking away from the stairway....I called to the man and he turned around, and came back toward me...the manager said "I know that man he works here." Third or fourth floor. No mention of a lunch room. no ID of LHO, just a description, 5'9" 165 pounds, dark hair, light brown jacket Was LHO wearing a brown jacket that day? He was 5'11 140 pounds, IIRC. 25 pounds is a big difference. 2 inches in height is less significant, but it doesn't, at least to me, add up. So we don't know if that was Oswald he saw. Unless I am missing something.

So now - you are agreeing with Lifton. Tell us about the JFK body alteration, if he is such a good source. and Griffin, who told us the WC was perfect in its report. You are killing whatever credibility you have left by attaching yourself to non-credible sources,

Just bought it. 20 bucks is not a lot compared to what we spend for other, much less useful, things these days. Thanks, Larry..

So you believe that any country has the right to invade any other sovereign country? So the Russians are doing the right thing in Ukraine? And I guess you do also believe, as you’ve implied , that Vietnam was a noble venture? I mean, after all, we only killed about 3 million Vietnamese.

I have no idea except to say that one of Lifton’s major flaws was to come up with a theory, throw it around, and then soon start talking about it as though it was established fact. It was like watching a really warped game of Telephone. So I came to trust very little that he said (or wrote).

I’m sorry the guy passed away, and I hate to agree about anything with Parnell, but that is one incoherent piece. Makes no sense, makes dumb mistakes, and contradicts itself.

It is fine if we see Carlson as an ally, and I understand Jim’s points completely. It is just near impossible to overlook Tucker’s support for Fascism, the murder of cops on January 6, his alliance with White Supremacists, overseas dictators, Putin and mass murder, etc etc. That is NOT political correctness, it is human repulsion at the things Carlson has always said and continues to say. So let us not flog those here who find him and any alliance repulsive.

The list of suspects would be really long.