The inevitable end result of our last 56 years

[Bob Ness]

17 hours ago, Benjamin Cole said:

Chris B.

I checked your numbers on the median age at death of C19 patients in the UK, and they seem correct.  And you are right---balanced diets, exercise, sensible use of alcohol, and no smoking improve the odds at everything.

BTW, there are some who say if you have had C19, why a forced vaccination?

Professor sues over CA school’s vaccine mandate, says he’s ‘naturally immune’ to COVID

A California professor is suing his school’s officials over a COVID-19 mandate, saying that he already contracted the virus and is “naturally immune.” Aaron Kheriaty, [associate] professor of psychiatry and human behavior at the University of California, Irvine, filed a lawsuit Aug. 18, saying he got sick with COVID-19 in July 2020.

---30---

Of course, someone with a degree in psychiatry might be a little loony. 

 

Right. And that's what they need to do to to treat CV patients? That's a therapeutic treatment for somebody on a vent? Here's a question:

What F&cking doctor on earth is not telling their patients to quit smoking, eat right and exercise?

[Bob Ness]

1 hour ago, Chris Barnard said:

Are you being civil again, after telling me to FO? 

Nah. It's ok you can still FO.

[Guest]

24 minutes ago, Bob Ness said:

Nah. It's ok you can still FO.

You've made me laugh, at least. 🙂 

Merry Christmas to you and family, too. 

[Ron Bulman]

Maybe what should happen?

Liz Cheney's roadmap for a Trump indictment tied to Jan. 6 (msnbc.com)

[Benjamin Cole]

Neither here nor there, but very interesting. 

https://www.biorxiv.org/content/10.1101/2021.12.14.472632v1.full.pdf

Labs use "humanized" mice for tests. This study suggests the omicron variant of C19 evolved inside of mice---thus, a strong possibility for the source of omicron is another lab leak, from humanized mice. 

BTW, if you think C19 came from a "wet market," be advised wet markets are extremely common in China.  

In China, wet markets are traditional markets that sell fresh meat, produce, and other perishable goods. They are the most prevalent food outlet in urban regions of China but have faced increasing competition from supermarkets. Since the 1990s, wet markets in large cities have been predominantly moved into modern indoor facilities.

If you think C19 came from a lab...there are dozens of so-called bsl-4 labs around the globe and the number is growing. And that is assuming dangerous work is being done in a bsl-4 lab, and not a lesser facility. 

Netherlands has gone to lockdowns again. 

Happy holidays all. 

[Kirk Gallaway]

22 hours ago, W. Niederhut said:

      Yes, Kirk, and, in the spirit of the holiday season, I'm going to take a break from arguing with anti-vaxxers and January 6th coup deniers.   It doesn't seem to accomplish anything of value around here. 

       Ultimately, I only end up offending people.

       Peace on earth and good will to men, and women...  🤥

 

You're not offending me, W. quite the opposite! Just keep in mind "you’re going to lose almost everything you have ever worked for in your life", and "feel like a "real chump" that you didn't  helplessly alarm everybody about their utterly hopeless situation right now!

And by the way, Merry Xmas!!! and the  best of Holiday Wishes!!

ho ho ho!

[W. Niederhut]

41 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

You're not offending me, W. quite the opposite! Just keep in mind "you’re going to lose almost everything you have ever worked for in your life", and "feel like a "real chump" that you didn't  helplessly alarm everybody about their utterly hopeless situation right now!

And by the way, Merry Xmas!!! and the  best of Holiday Wishes!!

ho ho ho!

Thanks, Kirk, and best wishes for you and yours this holiday season, and in the New Year.

I used to sing in a Schola Cantorum, and I recently posted two of my arrangements of old Gregorian Christmas hymns for guitar and two voices on my Soundclick page.   Gregorian polyphony is an oxymoron, but I tried it anyway.

https://www.soundclick.com/music/songInfo.cfm?songID=14352347

[Ron Bulman]

Is this the pot calling the kettle black?  Wasn't Stone there for the big rally/send off?  Did he say a few words?  

Are they turning on each other?

Roger Stone throws Steve Bannon under the bus with accusation he directed Capitol "breach" (msn.com)

[Benjamin Cole]

A strange parallel:

After 9/11, the federal government began releasing color-coded "terrorism threat levels."

The alert system established five color-coded levels of terrorist threat: green = low; blue = guarded; yellow = elevated; orange = high; red = severe. The presidential directive clearly contemplated that alerts would be accompanied by factual information.

Today we get "Delta" warnings and "Omicron" warnings.  

Has the public health bureaucracy taken a page from the national security state? 

All threats must be amplified? 

This is not to suggest a sinister cabal behind the C19 story. Just the usual bureaucratic aggrandizement in action. 

And why are children being vaccinated? Usually, "risk stratification" dictates who gets vaccinated. Children are at no risk from C19. 

You know, when we talk about  oil companies, we are all aware that they have a fiduciary obligation to maximize profits for shareholders. So we are properly skeptical of oil company proclamations regarding certain topics, and of their lobbying efforts and impacts on public policy. 

But are pharmaceutical companies any different? 

Have the pharmaceutical companies fashioned the Donk messaging-narrative on C19? 

This is a legitimate question.

Edited December 21, 2021 by Benjamin Cole
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[Guest]

1 hour ago, Benjamin Cole said:

 

Today we get "Delta" warnings and "Omicron" warnings.  

Has the public health bureaucracy taken a page from the national security state? 

 

- Tremendous amounts of money made from both. 
- Is there any separation between the security state and the health industry? Health DARPA, hello. 
- Don't they call it bio-terrorism?

 

 

1 hour ago, Benjamin Cole said:

 

All threats must be amplified? 

 

When you have human beings at a heightened state of fear, constantly, it has the following effects on the populous.
- It paralyses peoples ability to critically think and use logic, people are reduced to the ancient instincts wired into us. 
- People adopt a mob or herd mentality. Clinging to the centre of the herd for safety, think Zebra or pack animals. 
- The state loves a crisis, those who wish to consolidate power do so, while a public are in disarray. 
- Humans who become neurotic from a heightened state of fear, look toward those they view as superior, politicians, the state, god, to fix things for them. 
- Opportunist individuals companies seeking high profits exploit such scenarios. 
- It creates cultural obsession with safety, which fuels sick minds. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Benjamin Cole said:

 

This is not to suggest a sinister cabal behind the C19 story. Just the usual bureaucratic aggrandizement in action. 

 

 

- Some believe it's China.
- Some believe it's the "Power Elite" of today. 
- A whole bunch of the public think it's just plain bad luck. 

 

 

1 hour ago, Benjamin Cole said:

And why are children being vaccinated? Usually, "risk stratification" dictates who gets vaccinated. Children are at no risk from C19. 

- This is "Mass Psychosis", fear impairing a persons judgement and critical thinking. We have to question the delivery method of such fear and hysteria. It's obviously government and mainstream media, with big tech censoring any rational discussion. It's like nobody has heard of a cost/benefit analysis. 

For further information: See Psychologist Joost Meerloo's writings on Mass Psychosis, or more recently Psychologist Dr Mattias Desmet. Throughout history periodically, societies have seemed under the grip of mental illness, doing unthinkable things. Dostoevsky highlighted this also. Jung called them illusions. 

"The psychic conditions which breed demons are as actively at work as ever..."
Carl Gustav Jung 

“Just as the technological advances of the modern world have refined and perfected the weapons of physical warfare, so the advance in man’s understanding of the manipulation of public opinion have enabled him to refine and perfect the weapons of psychological warfare. . .[and] totalitarian psychological warfare…is an effort to propagandize and hypnotize the world into submission.” 

Joost Meerloo, Rape of the Mind

 

“We can never be sure that a new idea will not seize either upon ourselves or upon our neighbours. We know from modern as well as from ancient history that such ideas are often so strange, indeed so bizarre, that they fly in the face of reason. The fascination which is almost invariably connected with ideas of this sort produces a fanatical obsession, with the result that all dissenters no matter how well-meaning or reasonable they are, get burnt alive . . .or are disposed of in masses.”   

Carl Jung, Psychology and Religion

 

1 hour ago, Benjamin Cole said:

You know, when we talk about  oil companies, we are all aware that they have a fiduciary obligation to maximize profits for shareholders. So we are properly skeptical of oil company proclamations regarding certain topics, and of their lobbying efforts and impacts on public policy. 

But are pharmaceutical companies any different? 

Have the pharmaceutical companies fashioned the Donk messaging-narrative on C19? 

This is a legitimate question.

- Firstly, even in that industry, we seem to have abandoned the rationale concept of forbidding cartels and monopolies. 
- We might cast our minds back to our old friend Major General Smedley Butler, who wrote about "War being a racket." 
Media manufactures consent, government acts like they are responding to mass consent, tax payers pay for the war and private corporations pick up the profits. We've seen this play out for the entire time that America has been the empire of our time. The model is almost identical to the war racket, with government taking on a role in marketing. If you're a pharma company, why would you fix this pandemic with a great product, in one go? There is no financial incentive, it would be optimal for them to give jabs for life, every 3 or 6 months. Then as a business it would be even more advantageous to branch out to other jabs, for other illnesses that the media manufactures consent and create waves of fear about. Even better if you can convince a dumbed down population and corrupt politicians to side step the Nuremburg Code, which asserts our bodily autonomy and and right not to be experimented on and mandated medical treatments against our will. 

Bill Gates - A guy who monopolised the computer software industry, making products riddled with flaws and viruses, that needed upgrading very regularly. The same guy monopolises the vaccine industry using his money and influence, even pays $300 million to but PR from news outlets, whilst telling us repeatedly that there is a pandemic coming. Suddenly there is one, a virus, and our immune system needs upgrades very regularly, in perpetuity. Great business model or pure coincidence. 



Of course, some of you who are trying to understand the future and where we are doing, keeping a close eye on technological advances and developments, may have cast an eye on 'Transhumanism" and "Technocracy." This pandemic paves the way for these ideas or agendas. "The road to hell is paved with good intentions." 

[Benjamin Cole]

This is a real headline from Newsweek. 

 

NEWSWEEK MAGAZINE

Millions of Angry, Armed Americans Stand Ready to Seize Power If Trump Loses in 2024

BY DAVID H. FREEDMAN ON 12/20/21 AT 5:00 AM EST

 

What to make of it? The Daily Beast owns Newsweek---the same Daily Beast that savaged JFK-Revisited. 

Makes you wonder....

Edited December 21, 2021 by Benjamin Cole
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[Ron Bulman]

Does anyone here ever read Ben or Chris posts anymore?

[Guest]

15 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said:

Does anyone here ever read Ben or Chris posts anymore?

This is what people do; Ron. They have to attack things that challenge their belief structures. On some level, I see where you are coming from, it's easy for me not to read the tosh from brainwashed political cults. Most people do just desire and echo chamber, or confirmation bias material. 

If you think you're immune to those things, you have a very high opinion of yourself and one that it isn't in unison with some of the greatest thinkers in history. 

But, freedom of choice still exists, any of us can choose to skip reading material for a multitude of reasons. We only have so much time on this planet, It's fully understandable if people don't choose to see reality, or just to indulge in things that bring them pleasures. 

As Orwell said in his final warning; "It's up to you." 

[Benjamin Cole]

1 hour ago, Ron Bulman said:

Does anyone here ever read Ben or Chris posts anymore?

Ron B-

That is not a polite comment.

Moreover, this forum is concerned with the national security state and media manipulation. 

See the above headline from Newsweek. 

What is your take on that headline? 

[Ron Bulman]

2 hours ago, Chris Barnard said:

This is what people do; Ron. They have to attack things that challenge their belief structures. On some level, I see where you are coming from, it's easy for me not to read the tosh from brainwashed political cults. Most people do just desire and echo chamber, or confirmation bias material. 

If you think you're immune to those things, you have a very high opinion of yourself and one that it isn't in unison with some of the greatest thinkers in history. 

But, freedom of choice still exists, any of us can choose to skip reading material for a multitude of reasons. We only have so much time on this planet, It's fully understandable if people don't choose to see reality, or just to indulge in things that bring them pleasures. 

As Orwell said in his final warning; "It's up to you." 

Your post are usually much longer, not concise.  This is a debate forum, not a lecture.  Occasional longer informative posts are appreciated.  By me at least.  How we got here from JFK has nothing to do with COVID imho.  The insurrection does.  How did we go from JFK to insurrection?