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Digital World Acquisition Group, the company behind Truth Social, Donald Trump's new social media site.

The stock fell by more than 19% yesterday.

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Doesn't look like it's going well.

Reuters notes that "Trump and his business interests are the subject of numerous investigations from U.S. authorities." And Digital World Acquisition Corp. reportedly highlighted the risks of being associated with Trump in the regulatory filing.

"The Purchaser hereby acknowledges the controversial nature of being associated with the Company Principal and the Company Principal's family," the filing states.

Not the most glowing endorsement I've seen in a Prospectus.

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On 10/26/2021 at 10:02 PM, W. Niederhut said:

The Federalist, Ben?  Surely, you jest... 🤥

The irredeemable irresponsibility of The Federalist

On the ludicrous sycophancy of Trump's media toadies

https://theweek.com/articles/773685/irredeemable-irresponsibility-federalist

Every time I read the actual primary documents on people arrested at the Capitol scrum...it sure seems different to what is reported in the M$M. 

This is Stephanie Baez, one of the "insurrectionists."

OK, like many in the crowd, she live-texted and Instagramed etc, during her stay in the Capitol, thus providing irrefutable evidence of her participation in the event. Not too bright for an insurrectionist. 

 

 

The photo of her may have been taken by an informant, since it is not a selfie. 

Here is some of what Boez texted: 

. 2 old ladies were some of the first people in the capitol building and they had garbage lids, pushing back cops. Those are the Patriots of today.

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Actually some of the very first people in were 2 old ladies that had trash can lids to push back security. So bad ass. 

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Lol I did! It was actually fairly peaceful when I went in, chanting, people talking to cops, placing stuffed animal eagles on statues. Aaannd police let us through the barriers, they only really messed up breaking windows. But its our capitol building, we pay for it. 

Some of the first people were old ladies armed with garbage-pan lids?!

I never read that in M$M. But then...it does not fit a narrative, no?  

One part of the complaint against Baez is rather creepy, and I have seen this on other arrest reports:

People are tracked by their smartphones. The federal government served a warrant on Google, which readily and quickly became a part of the police state by providing the location of Baez' phone during the time of the event. 

Oh, how nice. 

So, I have provided in this space some primary documents relating to the Jan. 6 scrum. The actual participants, in real time, were texting their observations.

These real-time accounts are much different in texture than the M$M journalism, and I think provide a type of balance. 

 

 

 

 

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Deborah Birx, now says Trump could have reduced U.S. Covid deaths by 30-40% with a more concerted effort with greater testing. Gee, do you think so.?

A great opportunity to bail out his Presidency  fell right into Trump's lap, He could have gotten the jump on competitors and marketed "Maga masks", and make a fortune and also ensure his re election. But he was too dense and thought listening to the experts was a sign of weakness. What terrible timing that we had the first President of our time who actually became a cult figure. And to this day, even out of office, he has a group that still slavishly follows him, and some to their grave.

Birx, of course is also to blame, but she'll always have that excuse, that she had to play along to an extent or Trump would fire her and she'd have no input at all. In reference to another thread , she was always sort of the well ornamented old style Republican woman, sort of the Peggy Noonan  face of the U.S Covid response!

 

https://www.axios.com/birx-trump-covid-white-house-congress-1ffe94bb-6d16-4be7-9bb0-c3b52a440e5d.html

 

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3 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

Deborah Birx, now says Trump could have reduced U.S. Covid deaths by 30-40% with a more concerted effort with greater testing. Gee, do you think so.?

A great opportunity to bail out his Presidency  fell right into Trump's lap, He could have gotten the jump on competitors and marketed "Maga masks", and make a fortune and also ensure his re election. But he was too dense and thought listening to the experts was a sign of weakness. What terrible timing that we had the first President of our time who actually became a cult figure. And to this day, even out of office, he has a group that still slavishly follows him, and some to their grave.

Birx, of course is also to blame, but she'll always have that excuse, that she had to play along to an extent or Trump would fire her and she'd have no input at all. In reference to another thread , she was always sort of the well ornamented old style Republican woman, sort of the Peggy Noonan  face of the U.S Covid response!

 

https://www.axios.com/birx-trump-covid-white-house-congress-1ffe94bb-6d16-4be7-9bb0-c3b52a440e5d.html

 

Had to laugh about your "MAGA mask" concept, Kirk.  It would have been a rare example of a Trump business idea that actually succeeded financially and proved beneficial to society... 🤥

Here's my take on why Trump bungled the pandemic response so badly.

1)  He was afraid that an appropriate pandemic response would undermine the economy and, hence, his re-election prospects in 2020.

2)  He didn't like the "optics" of mask-wearing, which undermined his orange-faced, macho television image.

3)  He is abysmally ignorant of science and the significance of scientific data.

 

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On 10/26/2021 at 4:09 AM, Benjamin Cole said:

https://thefederalist.com/2021/01/14/i-saw-provocateurs-at-the-capitol-riot-on-jan-6/

Another point of view. 

The author reports the DC National Guard was already on the streets Jan. 6.

His account is plain, and he has credentials (read to the bottom). 

So at least some elements of the National Guard were already deployed, in addition to the nearly 6,000 officers at the disposal of the Capitol Police and the DC Metropolitan Police. 

How on earth could 600 unarmed protestors "storm the Capitol"? 

Keep an open mind...the M$M sure has an agenda on this one....Liz Cheney? Are you sure she will tell the truth? 

 

 

On 10/26/2021 at 5:41 PM, Benjamin Cole said:

W.--

 

As I said, keep an open mind. 

There are truths and un-truths printed in the NYT...or lesser outlets.

Hard to tell anymore. Would you believe nothing you read in the NYT? Are they mere Donk sycophants? Often, but not always....

This fellow's account is limited to what he himself saw. Credible source. 

If you read the primary documents, many, many of the rioters inside the Capitol texted in real time that they were "let in." 

That is the historical record, in arrest reports. Indeed, being provided as evidence by prosecutors in open court, to prove the rioters were inside the Capitol. 

But the Capitol Police and the DC Metropolitan Police do not report to Trump, but to Democratic Party officials. 

Does it not seem likely Jan. 6 was just a scrum and the 6,000-officer police departments, for whatever reason, were woefully unprepared, leaderless for a while, and then cleared everyone out after a few hours? 

A second option is that Jan. 6 was instigated by provocateurs, in conjunction with police, which would not be a first in history....

 

 

 

Ben, regarding that woman, Are you  just going to dredge up every insignificant tweet from nobodies at the Capitol on 1/6 and insist that means something? Either that or  you become obsessed with somebody who you've called  "emblematic" like the buffalo horns guy? 
 
You always seen to be struggling with putting together 1/6 fragmented images in sort of a confused jumble. Maybe I can demystify this for you. There's a great abundance of film at the Capitol that day. Here in the states we had live feeds of some of the followers entering the open capitol taking cell phone pictures. These tweets you find compelling don't mystify us or make us scratch our head. I don't think the  majority who entered the Capitol originally  had an specific idea to break into the Capitol. Do you feel more validated  now? All this is common knowledge.
 
And here's something I think will be news to you. In the states we saw live feeds of police being over run by the rioters as well as police capitulating to the rioters!
 
You act like this guy in the Federalist article is really somebody. Why would one guy walking around have any kind of comprehensive idea of what's really going on that any of us should put any real faith into? Particularly a guy from a far right pro Trump publication?  We have a lot of film evidence.

Ben: If you read the primary documents, many, many of the rioters inside the Capitol texted in real time that they were "let in." 

What's a many,  many?. You also have a lot more definitive film evidence of people storming the Capitol, running through the police forces, in some cases attacking them, and breaking windows to enter. People can tweet anything. What's to stop them from lying and downplaying violence they may have seen?What is the more definitive evidence? Live film or tweets?

But as I said, this isn't speculation. We've seen some photo evidence of rioters being let in the Capitol. And that possibly couldn't be  because there are law enforcement who are inside Trump people?

Ben: 1)But the Capitol Police and the DC Metropolitan Police do not report to Trump, but to Democratic Party officials.

2) second option is that Jan. 6 was instigated by provocateurs, in conjunction with police, which would not be a first in history....

2)What you seem to be saying here isn't very clear.  Are you saying that certain police people could have been inside men" for Trump? Or is this what you've been alluding to a number of times now, that this is  some  Italian,Pelosi, Antifa, Pizza Gate conspiracy theory?

You always seem to be ending up insisting that Trump and his supporters are hapless victims. Like your phrase."velcro President" It's funny but it denotes sort of a  victimhood as if Trump is doing nothing  to merit the criticisms.
 
There are a number of films that can show you time stamped maps of where rioters were pushing through as legislators, including Pence narrowly escapes them,  if you choose to look at them. It will be a lot more enlightening then showing insignificant tweets or accounts from "nobodies."
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4 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said:

 

Ben, regarding that woman, Are you  just going to dredge up every insignificant tweet from nobodies at the Capitol on 1/6 and insist that means something? Either that or  you become obsessed with somebody who you've called  "emblematic" like the buffalo horns guy? 
 
You always seen to be struggling with putting together 1/6 fragmented images in sort of a confused jumble. Maybe I can demystify this for you. There's a great abundance of film at the Capitol that day. Here in the states we had live feeds of some of the followers entering the open capitol taking cell phone pictures. These tweets you find compelling don't mystify us or make us scratch our head. I don't think the  majority who entered the Capitol originally  had an specific idea to break into the Capitol. Do you feel more validated  now? All this is common knowledge.
 
And here's something I think will be news to you. In the states we saw live feeds of police being over run by the rioters as well as police capitulating to the rioters!
 
You act like this guy in the Federalist article is really somebody. Why would one guy walking around have any kind of comprehensive idea of what's really going on that any of us should put any real faith into? Particularly a guy from a far right pro Trump publication?  We have a lot of film evidence.

Ben: If you read the primary documents, many, many of the rioters inside the Capitol texted in real time that they were "let in." 

What's a many,  many?. You also have a lot more definitive film evidence of people storming the Capitol, running through the police forces, in some cases attacking them, and breaking windows to enter. People can tweet anything. What's to stop them from lying and downplaying violence they may have seen?What is the more definitive evidence? Live film or tweets?

But as I said, this isn't speculation. We've seen some photo evidence of rioters being let in the Capitol. And that possibly couldn't be  because there are law enforcement who are inside Trump people?

Ben: 1)But the Capitol Police and the DC Metropolitan Police do not report to Trump, but to Democratic Party officials.

2) second option is that Jan. 6 was instigated by provocateurs, in conjunction with police, which would not be a first in history....

2)What you seem to be saying here isn't very clear.  Are you saying that certain police people could have been inside men" for Trump? Or is this what you've been alluding to a number of times now, that this is  some  Italian,Pelosi, Antifa, Pizza Gate conspiracy theory?

You always seem to be ending up insisting that Trump and his supporters are hapless victims. Like your phrase."velcro President" It's funny but it denotes sort of a  victimhood as if Trump is doing nothing  to merit the criticisms.
 
There are a number of films that can show you time stamped maps of where rioters were pushing through as legislators, including Pence narrowly escapes them,  if you choose to look at them. It will be a lot more enlightening then showing insignificant tweets or accounts from "nobodies."

Kirk, Kirk, Kirk (spoken in descending tones):

Yes, the real-time observations of "nobodies" carry more weight with me than synthetic M$M news. 

Sure, there some feeds of the scrum "overpowering" this or that lightly manned fence outside the Capitol. In some ways this is not media bias; obviously the most dramatic footage gets the news. 

But most people on Jan. 6 just walked in, and only one protestor carried a firearm (even that is not clear--it now appears the guy with a firearm was arrested outside the actual building, and that proceedings against him...have evaporated. So, it is alleged that one person carried  a firearm onto the Capitol grounds that day, while all the police were armed, and one shot and killed a protestor.  

Oh, boo-hoo for that little weiner Pence. I hope he was wearing his adult diapers on Jan 6. 

Meanwhile...you know, like my late, great Uncle Jerry used to say: "This story gets fishier and fishier, and I am beginning to smell  a rat." 

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Add on: One reason to study the JFKA is to learn how government and media work together. 

What the public was fed through the M$M after the JFKA and then after the Jan. 6 scrum...is worth pondering. 

 

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I have no sympathy for neo n a z i s who wear tee shirts saying Camp Auschwitz. As far as I am concerned the public will not be safe with these fascists running loose.    I heard them chanting hang mike pence. I saw them smashing windows of the US Capitol building.  Many said publicly they wanted to kill Nancy Pelosi.  These people are criminals and should be treated as such.  No sympathy for the devil this time.

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9 hours ago, Ron Bulman said:

Yes, the Trump family seems to be deficient in empathy genes.

One of Donald Trump's biographers mentioned a few years ago that Donald has always taken a peculiar delight in scamming people, and getting away with it.

The glee in right wing circles about the Alec Baldwin movie set tragedy seems especially bizarre.

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12 hours ago, Chuck Schwartz said:

I have no sympathy for neo n a z i s who wear tee shirts saying Camp Auschwitz. As far as I am concerned the public will not be safe with these fascists running loose.    I heard them chanting hang mike pence. I saw them smashing windows of the US Capitol building.  Many said publicly they wanted to kill Nancy Pelosi.  These people are criminals and should be treated as such.  No sympathy for the devil this time.

Chuck S.--

I share your revulsion of Nezis and others. 

https://www.buzzfeednews.com/article/kenbensinger/michigan-kidnapping-gretchen-whitmer-fbi-informant

But it nows appears the kidnap plot of Whitmer never would have happened except for the involvement of federal provocateurs. 

This does not mean I think the other "real" members of the Whitmer kidnap party were nice guys. 

It does mean the whole story needs to be told. 

Ditto on Jan. 6. 

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