Denny Zartman

My memory is fuzzy on this, but I seem to recall that Nixon told two, perhaps even three, different stories about where he was when he learned of JFK's death.

Ordering a rifle using an assumed name for the crime that you hope to use to get your real name into the history books. Sounds like a foolproof plan right there. 12:25 PM, when the limo is scheduled to pass, LHO is on the second floor. Very clever. How better to become a big somebody and get into the history books than being five floors away from your snipers nest and your weapon at the precise time your target is scheduled to pass? 12:30 PM, LHO shoots from the sixth floor window. 12:32 PM, LHO seen again on the second floor, not winded or sweating. What an actor. Excuse me, that should be "actor/athlete!"

Your question makes no sense @Lance Payette . You post that list of names of CIA Directors as if it means something. The CIA is one of the most secretive organizations in the world, and for some reason you believe that, by the law of averages, at least one of the Directors would have wanted to reverse that course and reveal perhaps their biggest secret of all time. McDonald's has had a lot of CEO's in the last thirty years... shouldn't at least one of them have suggested getting out of the restaurant business entirely? It's a silly question.

It appears that some people in the media, no matter how little they know about the assassination or their personal stance on believing in conspiracies in general, are now realizing and facing up to a simple and inescapable truth: If it really was a lone nut assassin in 1963, there wouldn't still be hidden documents about it in 2022. The fact that any documents are still being held from view stinks to high heaven, and everyone can smell it, even through the screen. (Of course, a substantial number of people knew something was rotten in Denmark the minute Ruby killed Oswald. But, better late to the party than never.)

Yes, because one does not rise to the rank of CIA Director by being a free-thinking radical determined to destroy the system. I'm surprised anyone would expect a CIA Director to come into the job with the intent of airing any of the Agency's dirty secrets, much less maybe the dirtiest secret of them all.

All excellent points, @Joe Bauer

Plymouth Rock didn't land on you, you landed on Plymouth Rock. Or something along those lines.

I'm no fan of Carlson at all, but credit where it's due.

I've planned a long post on just this point. It makes zero sense to me, especially when one considers that the Warren Commission consulted with psychiatrists and psychologists and ultimately decided not to make the question of Oswald's sanity an issue. It's just a common sense question that could be asked of many issues surrounding the assassination.

"But... but... Linnie Mae Randle..." It seems like some folks are the types who watch a nightclub magician do a card trick and wonder if they're seeing actual magic. The CIA does sophisticated surveillance and intelligence gathering around the world, but finding out where the neighbors worked is some sort of mission impossible.

Great summary, @Gene Kelly . I'd also add the Parrot Jungle incident as an obvious sheepdipping operation.

I guess they lost J. Walton Moore's phone number.

If the articles are all written through the LN lens like the one in Politico, maybe limited coverage is a good thing.

From the scant info in the piece, the new news is that they're pinning some of the blame on the CIA in Mexico City for being incompetent during LHO's alleged visit. Whoops. Our bad. They say to expect no smoking guns in this release. I don't think anyone is expecting a smoking gun. I believe the most incriminating documents were removed long ago. However, there certainly might be information there that looks innocuous at first glance but gives us a lot when placed in context.

They're far from new. They're experts at cluttering up the forum with their nonsense. But it will be amusing watching their "arguments" get taken apart again.

But we can't really consider the context of his remarks until we see his manuscript and the evidence on which he based his (assumed) conclusions. And, as as someone who was once chewed out by Lifton for misspelling someone's name, I got a Sensible Chuckle from this post.

That was very, very uncool of him, imho.

It's just funny that stuff like this still goes on, and some folks remain devoted to the Lone Nut theory.

I agree with @James DiEugenio. This thread is interesting reading, but it seems to be mostly speculation at this point.

I'm sorry to hear of Mr. Lifton's passing. It was an enormous privilege to be a member of this forum with him and to have the opportunity to interact with an author the stature of David Lifton. How often does a student of the assassination get to communicate with someone who had quizzed Allen Dulles in person? "Best Evidence" is certainly a landmark book among the many hundreds of books that have been written about the subject. I remember reading about each discovery he made and being so curious to hear about Wesley Liebeler's reactions. I know some forum members didn't always have the most friendly relationship with him. Certainly there were occasional areas of disagreement even with those that did. But there's no doubt that through his research and writing David Lifton made a huge contribution to our understanding of the JFK assassination. He will be missed.

Amazon tells me that the book version of JFK Revisited is currently the #1 best seller in Media Studies. Congratulations to author @James DiEugenio on this fine achievement.

Thanks, I needed that laugh. 😁

I hope the first word on page 1000 is poopoo.

Lori is bumping the thread up, not off.