Ron Bulman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Hatred? If this is not the pot calling the kettle black I don't know what is. He and his followers hate Blacks, Mexicans, just about all foreigners, LBGTQ. With his leadership they have become not just conservatives but the party of hatred. Trump lawyers argue impeachment based on ‘hatred,’ not facts (msn.com) Edited February 13, 2021 by Ron Bulman Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 If true, the smoking gun if you needed one. https://www.cnn.com/2021/02/12/politics/trump-mccarthy-shouting-match-details/index.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Yes, the conspiracy hearings have gone into a whole new realm of Republican denial, and in no less than the bottom of the 9th! The sources are Republicans who were told by Kevin Mc Carthy of his phone call with Trump, begging for Trump to send the National Guard.This is really damning of Trump. Trump is caught willfully denying help to Congress in distress. Trump:"Well, Kevin, I guess these people are more upset about the election than you are," Trump said, according to lawmakers who were briefed on the call afterward by McCarthy. McCarthy insisted that the rioters were Trump's supporters and begged Trump to call them off. Trump's comment set off what Republican lawmakers familiar with the call described as a shouting match between the two men. A furious McCarthy told the then-President the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows, and asked Trump, "Who the f--k do you think you are talking to?" according to a Republican lawmaker familiar with the call. https://thehill.com/homenews/house/538714-trump-told-mccarthy-that-rioters-more-upset-about-the-election-than-you-are Mc Carthy's first statements were somewhat condemning of Trump. But then he ended up going to Mar Lago a couple of weeks ago to patch things up. So of course, now there's no hope Mc Carthy could ever testify before the impeachment trial , because he would have to admit that he ended up just caving in and selling out to Trump all over again.. Not that there was ever much hope of him testifying. But it just goes to show you, the Democrats should have taken their time with this proceeding. Mc Carthy becomes the Josh Bolton of the second impeachment! History could never judge these people fondly, but that doesn't do anything for us now! Edited February 13, 2021 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) 17 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Trump's comment set off what Republican lawmakers familiar with the call described as a shouting match between the two men. A furious McCarthy told the then-President the rioters were breaking into his office through the windows, and asked Trump, "Who the f--k do you think you are talking to?" according to a Republican lawmaker familiar with the call. Edited February 13, 2021 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 15 hours ago, Joe Bauer said: No Senator could even imagine or would ever condone their rally crowds going smashing, injury and even murder minded crazy like this after they happened to say to them "fight" in a campaign rally speech. I will never view a high school football game in the same light again, and I think every cheerleader in the country should be investigated. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 hours ago, Steve Thomas said: I will never view a high school football game in the same light again, and I think every cheerleader in the country should be investigated. Steve Thomas Exactly Steve. Perfect analogy. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) So the impeachment now won't be settled today. The Democrats have undertaken to change the equation and call for GOP Congress woman Herera Beutler to testify as to Kevin Mc Carthy account to her of his phone call with Trump. They took a vote and 5 Republicans voted with the Dems to take testimony. The usual Collins, Murchowsk, and Romney, but now with Ben Sasse and surprisingly Lindsey Graham, who I would assume is voting to flood the hearings with GOP witnesses to try to expose the hearings as a sham, including according to GOP counsel, the possibility of Nancy Pelosi! But the Democrats for now, want one witness. Who would be next for the Dems, Mike Pence? This certainly is the stuff JFK wrote about. Is this the "Profiles in courage" moment for Kevin Mc Carthy from Bakersfield? Will he do the right thing? Ha ha ha ...joke! This would not have gotten off the ground if the Democrats didn't sweep in the January Georgia runoff and thus control the Senate. But the irony of this is you have to assume the 2 chambers aren't like fortresses and there is some cross talk between them. It looks as if Mc Carthy may have told of his phone call with Trump to several GOP Congressman, maybe a month ago. If Beutler who voted to impeach was included among the GOP congress Mc Carthy talked to, he must have talked to many house GOP! Which of course further exposes the sham Q&A responses by Republicans yesterday in the Senate, where they shoot back that the case the house managers made didn't include an investigation into Trump's "dereliction of duty" while we have to assume most the GOP jurors in the Senate have to heard about Mc Carthy's conversation with Trump and were going to acquit Trump anyway! The GOP counsel Michael van der Veen was understandably upset at the prospect of calling witnesses because he was expecting to wrap this all up today. When he argues rather constipatedly , as he did today, he looks kind of like Jack Klugman! Edited February 13, 2021 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Kirk Galloway's quote: "This certainly is the stuff JFK wrote about. Is this the "Profiles in courage" moment for Kevin Mc Carthy from Bakersfield? Will he do the right thing? Ha ha ha ...joke!" If McCarthy were to be honest about his "Who the F### do you think you are talking to" screaming match with Trump while he, his staff and office were under Trump mob attack, and admit this publicly, his political career would be completely ruined, over and he would surely become another fearful target of threatening Trump nut case followers. So, he won't. And by the way, people hearing of McCarthy representing a district in California and probably wondering why he isn't a pink feather boa swinging, bikini and high heel shoe wearing San Francisco gay pride participant liberal should know that California is as divided geographically in political ideology and sentiment as Mississippi and Alabama are from Massachusettes and Connecticut. It's a really weird reality. Much of California's inner state rural area cities like McCarthy's Bakersfield have always been as good ole boy "Cowboy right" as any Texas or other deep south one. Just 100 or more miles from the super liberal cities on our California Coast. And this KG quote gem: "The GOP counsel Michael van der Veen was understandably upset at the prospect of calling witnesses because he was expecting to wrap this all up today. When he argues rather constipatedly, as he did today, he looks kind of like Jack Klugman!" HA! Or a worried eyed, jaw dropped shocked District Attorney Hamilton Burger when Perry Mason receives a bombshell note from Paul Drake in the last minutes of a sure thing Burger sought guilty verdict trial with Mason then looking up ominously at the trial judge and saying ..."Your Honor, I have just received irrefutible evidence that will prove the innocence of my client, and expose the real guilty party in this case and ask for permission to include this into evidence"...and the Judge says " It will be so allowed ." Edited February 13, 2021 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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Ron Bulman Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 Senate acquits Trump in historic second impeachment trial over Capitol riot (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 5 minutes ago, Ron Bulman said: Senate acquits Trump in historic second impeachment trial over Capitol riot (msn.com) Kudos to the seven Republican Senators who had the integrity to vote for Trump's conviction. The other 43 belong somewhere in the lower levels of Dante Alighieri's Inferno. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted February 13, 2021 Share Posted February 13, 2021 (edited) Told you he'd skate. The GOP needs his base, and they can't afford scrutiny of Congressional Trump supporters. See you in 2024. Edited February 13, 2021 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 2:28NOW PLAYING WATCH LATER ADD TO QUEUE Orwell's final warning - Picture of the future 1M views9 months ago theJourneyofPurpose TJOP George Orwell's Final Words of warning His prediction of the future 1984. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted February 14, 2021 Share Posted February 14, 2021 "didn't get away with anything yet--yet". "still liable for everything he did in office." "former presidents can be subject to criminal and civil litigation" McConnell Excoriates Trump for Riot Role Despite Acquittal (msn.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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