Steve Thomas Posted December 20, 2020 Share Posted December 20, 2020 A secret hidden in plain sight: President Donald Trump's role as a Russian asset Ray Hartmann December 20, 2020 https://www.rawstory.com/trump-putin-2649563857/ "One need not dabble in conspiracy theories to ask a simple question today: What should be done about Donald Trump having served as a Russian asset for the past four years?" "In the wake of the recently revealed Russian cyberattack on the U.S. -- apparently unprecedented in its danger to national security -- it's time for Congress, the media and the incoming Biden administration to move beyond the question of "if" Trump was helping his overt ally, Russian President Vladimir Putin. The relevant questions are why and how.” “Now, return to the current news that somehow, some way, Putin's hackers managed to pull off one of the greatest espionage coups in history, at U.S. expense, on Donald Trump's watch. And Trump, it turns out, is the only one in the U.S. unfazed by it all as he focuses instead on staying in office by military coup. If all those dots cannot be connected, someone needs a new Sharpie.” Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 We'd always say the Latin Americans are more "dramatic" than we are. Certainly in the U.S. under the current Trump administration,we would never get such a dramatic public health cry that assumes so much responsibility for actions as this in Panama the other day, as they have just employed quarantine measures in a new covid spike, that has resulted in 30 deaths that day or 1/100 of the recent totals in the U.S. per day but in a country of 1/80th the population. The number of infections is increasing in Panama. Yesterday there were almost three thousand cases and almost 30 deaths, really worrying figures. There are no more beds available in hospitals and there is clear evidence that we are in the presence of an imminent collapse. Never before have we been so vulnerable to the pandemic and never before have we acted so irresponsibly, as we have completely forgotten that the virus coexists with us and that it is killing many, including young people. What does it take for us to act sensibly and put aside the smart games ? What would make us react so that we respect the life of our neighbor, complying with the basic biosecurity measures recommended by the health authorities? How many more deaths does it take to take the pandemic seriously? It seems incredible that others have to watch over our own existence since it is clear that the spike in infections only points in one direction: our irresponsibility. This December, which should be a month of joy, will be the worst of the year for coronavirus. There will be nothing to celebrate if we continue to behave as we do. It seems that we urgently need to understand the fatal statistics of this pandemic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barnard Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirk Gallaway said: It seems incredible that others have to watch over our own existence since it is clear that the spike in infections only points in one direction: our irresponsibility. You're wrong there, Kirk. The general consensus has been since at least summer 20 that there will be a serious spike in covid cases over the winter months. There are various reasons for this, some connected to why common colds and flu's spike in winter, but, it's one thing the MSM has been correct about. I guess if you throw enough darts, something hits the board eventually. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 I didn't write that Chris. Read the whole story. Everyone was pretty well aware in Spring, of projections of successive second or third waves coming back in even stronger force during the flu season, similar to 1918. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barnard Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 10 minutes ago, Kirk Gallaway said: I didn't write that Chris. Read the whole story. Everyone was pretty well aware in Spring, of projections of successive second or third waves coming back in even stronger force during the flu season, similar to 1918. Oh sorry, Kirk, I apologise if i’ve misunderstood. Is there a source link? I just wasn’t clear who the black bold text belongs to. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 As far as his Presidency goes, Donald Trump is going to do what he has always done; he's going to declare bankruptcy and just walk away. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 TRUMPOLOGY Is Trump Cracking Under the Weight of Losing? By MICHAEL KRUSE 12/20/2020 07:00 AM EST Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Kirk Gallaway Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) 10 hours ago, Chris Barnard said: Oh sorry, Kirk, I apologise if i’ve misunderstood. Is there a source link? I just wasn’t clear who the black bold text belongs to. You're certainly not a connoisseur of writing styles Chris. You assumed I was editorializing for the Government of Panama?? If you look further below, the edict is from MINSA which throughout Latin America is the Ministry of Public Health. The commentary was discharged through the most prevalent TV station in Panama. I'm not sure if it's there's or Minsa's. I'm not sure from your previous comments, Chris, if you're at all concerned about the "pan" or perhaps is it "plandemic"? The U.K. has done as abysmally a sloppy job of battling the pandemic as we have. And now they've detected the most virulent strain, ("variant") apparently first back in September! France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Ireland and Bulgaria all announced restrictions on U.K. travel, Yet many are leaving the U.K. in droves and where are they going? To the U.S., possibly bringing this infection! Chris, you'll be thrilled to know, this is awakening the Trumpian instincts in me. Might be better to ban the Brits, at least for now! But I'm no expert, and actually can admit it. Edited December 21, 2020 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Paul Brancato Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 From my reading, the new strain is more contagious but also less deadly. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 Impeach Him... Again? By Charlie Sykes 12/21/20 https://morningshots.thebulwark.com/p/impeach-him-again “But, perhaps, an impeachment should be in the queue ready to go. At a minimum, someone should be thinking about the ultimate Trumpsday scenario, and start drafting the articles that could be quickly acted upon (maybe with snap votes in both the House and Senate?). The smart set has been telling us that we don’t have anything to worry about. The guardrails will hold, they assure us. There’s no time, they tell us. But Trump is in the White House talking about coups. Maybe we need to have to the hammer ready to break glass in case of emergency.” Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) The "Apprentice" was a mindless escape reality show with Trump at its eccentric star basking in its weekly national attention and ego stroking glory spotlight. Never enough attention and ego stroking seeking Trump was the perfect fit for that role. Trying to assess Trump as president in some intellectual way isn't neccessary or logical. He is simply reprising his "Apprentice" TV show role. Bombastic, laughably vain and narcissistic, overly sarcastic to even a sadistic and cruel degree. Making shockingly blunt fun of people and demeaning and insulting them often right to their face. Think "Apprentice" contestants or the White House Press corps. The presidency has been Trump's ultimate personal attention craving dream Reality show. And he has played the ever more shocking words and action star role to the hilt. No one, not even Oliver Stone could ever make a movie about Trump without it coming across as anything but a perverse even surreal weird humor farce! Maybe Woody Allen or the Farrelly Brothers could do it justice. I can't get a specific handle on such a film myself but so many things about Trump as president bring back flashbacks of films like the Peter Seller's "The Pink Panther," and "Dr. Strangelove," or other farces such as "It's A Mad, Mad, Mad, Mad World," etc. Log line for such a film would be simply " A Nut Becomes President!" Edited December 21, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Richard Price Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 We have 30 days to go, how bad could it get? We have an unhinged criminal sociopath Russian agent in charge of our national security. He knows no bounds in his disregard for our laws and constitution and is very aware that everything around him is crumbling down. He will look for any and all ways to avoid prosecution and responsibility up to and including acting in behalf of foreign nations willing to give him a "pass" and save himself from the punishment he deserves. Even with his complete narcissistic egomaniacal and self aggrandizing behavior, people seem to think he will do rational things in the future. Those who do are not recognizing who they are dealing with and are ignoring the past cult leaders and their decisions when between a rock and a hard place. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chris Barnard Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 1 hour ago, Kirk Gallaway said: You're certainly not a connoisseur of writing styles Chris. You assumed I was editorializing for the Government of Panama?? If you look further below, the edict is from MINSA which throughout Latin America is the Ministry of Public Health. The commentary was discharged through the most prevalent TV station in Panama. I'm not sure if it's there's or Minsa's. I'm not sure from your previous comments, Chris, if you're at all concerned about the "pan" or perhaps is it "plandemic"? The U.K. has done as abysmally a sloppy job of battling the pandemic as we have. And now they've detected the most virulent strain, ("variant") apparently first back in September! France, Germany, Italy, the Netherlands, Belgium, Austria, Ireland and Bulgaria all announced restrictions on U.K. travel, Yet many are leaving the U.K. in droves and where are they going? To the U.S., possibly bringing this infection! Chris, you'll be thrilled to know, this is awakening the Trumpian instincts in me. Might be better to ban the Brits, at least for now! But I'm no expert, and actually can admit it. Hi Kirk, There might have been a bit of direction missing in your post, but, it's ok, all water under the bridge. I am not overly concerned about the virus, as I've done a fair bit of reading on the topic and spoken to medical professionals who were dealing with the effects of it every day, people ranging from Indian Dr's to NHS work staff in my UK extended family. I am concerned about the way its been handled from the start, and what it's done to the poor and middle class. I suspected you had a bit of Trump in you, when it suited you. 🙂 I think as a country you must do what you think is best, based on actual data, but, if this virulent strain has been about since September, isn't that a bit late to react? I don't know how much you travel but, I entered Healthrow on the 5th October 20 and there was not a single covid check for any passenger happening in the airport, yet its one of the busiest international airports on earth. At the same time the UK government is telling the public to stay home and restricting businesses, also at the same time the London Underground is packed every single day. It seems Britain has been neither here nor there, a big contradiction. As a country we didn't go for herd immunity or a proper locking down. That hypocrisy and poor governance was spotted by the people and therefore I can't blame most of the population for the spread. Governments knew in December what was starting to happen and I think the UK's first lock down was on March 25th or around the end of that month. Britain is prosecuting people breaking imposed restrictions, such as people organising public gatherings etc. I am fortunate that I can live somewhere outside of the UK that at this point has no Covid restrictions, no masks, I can be outdoors every day, goto the pub and live a life as if Covid doesn't exist. We actually have very strict entry restrictions and isolation periods. But, I am on an island with a population of 300-500 people and its much easier to manage in that respect. There is always the possibility that someone will come ashore from a private boat and cause all sorts of issues though, despite big signs in the harbours telling them they are not welcome. In many respects this is a fascinating topic. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted December 21, 2020 Share Posted December 21, 2020 (edited) You know I'm from California. When I do get out, I don't see anyone not wearing a mask. Even idle walkers, dog walkers and joggers. Our downtowns are practically deserted. The restaurants are totally shut down. Theaters months ago. This is a tourist area and the hotels are nearly empty and what few tourists are on the streets are all wearing masks. I know in the larger urban areas of the state it is harder for residents to distance, but it seems like most of them are now wearing masks. Yet, the virus is spreading faster than when hardly anyone were wearing masks! Hugely so! Everyone still has to buy groceries. I have heard that spreading is happening in that environment more than any other now. But still, I sense this massive increase in spreading is due to something more than too many not wearing masks, washing their hands and distancing. Could we also be under a more virulent and more easily spread virus strain like the UK? How come Africa hasn't gone ballistic in the virus spread? In the most ill-prepared and greatest medical supply shortage area of the world, you would think Covid would be raging! Edited December 21, 2020 by Joe Bauer Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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