Kirk Gallaway Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) Just to highlight a chronology I read leading up to Jan. 6th, of Trump's actions to thwart the results of the election, apart from any direct effort to overthrow the capitol, and any attempt to disrupt the certification of the election on Jan. 6th.. Nov 4th: Refuses to admit defeat, started with the 'frankly, we did win' Dec 12th: The SCOTUS shoots down the lawsuits that reached it concerning the elections. Dec 14th: Biden has enough electoral college votes from certified state results, he has finally and definitely won at this point. Dec 19th: Trump tweets 'be there, it will be wild'; which seems to be one of the first mentions of the upcoming protest on the 6th by him Dec 27th: Trump calls and fails to change the opinions of Rosenberg and others to turn the DOJ into his agency. Trump realizes everything so far failed, the 6th will be last chance. Jan 2nd, Trump calles Raffensberger in a last attempt to have Georgia overrule its own election results. Jan 3rd, Trump has last meeting with both Rosenberg and Clarke to decide what to do with Rosenberg (to replace him with Clarke, but all senior staff at the DOJ would quit) So what we have is that after the lawsuit got shot down by SCOTUS, in December/early January we see a multiprong attack on our democracy: State and election officials are pressured with personals call by the President to lie on his behalf the DOJ is pressure to make bold untruthful declarations about the election (they refused) the DOJ, FBI and CIA leadership are loyalty tested and threatened with being replaced (they and the military made clear they would quit en-masse if that happened) the GOP loyalists in Congress put pressure on their peers to object to the vote counting on the 6th the rhetoric leading up to the Jan 6th protest becomes more and more with fighting words, there are communications about this between organizers and the White House the protest is more and more planned as an assault on the capitol, with tours and shared maps etc. On nearly all of these points, the Jan 6th committee need to question Meadows and others. My guess is that somewhere in early January, Trump with a small group of trustees make the final decision that they will send the horde towards the capitol on the 6th, as it is their last ditch chance to stay in power. It wasn't just a coup attempt. The Jan 6th protest was a last hail mary of a weekslong campaign by the White House to overthrow the election results by illegal means after they exhausted all legal means. It was the grand final of weeks of illegal behavior by Trump and a group of loyalist around him. And as the article states, it is clear why Trump or his cronies were pushing for pardons for people like Meadows. Edited August 11, 2021 by Kirk Gallaway Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Joe Bauer Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 4 hours ago, Kirk Gallaway said: Just to highlight a chronology I read leading up to Jan. 6th, of Trump's actions to thwart the results of the election, apart from any direct effort to overthrow the capitol, and any attempt to disrupt the certification of the election on Jan. 6th.. Nov 4th: Refuses to admit defeat, started with the 'frankly, we did win' Dec 12th: The SCOTUS shoots down the lawsuits that reached it concerning the elections. Dec 14th: Biden has enough electoral college votes from certified state results, he has finally and definitely won at this point. Dec 19th: Trump tweets 'be there, it will be wild'; which seems to be one of the first mentions of the upcoming protest on the 6th by him Dec 27th: Trump calls and fails to change the opinions of Rosenberg and others to turn the DOJ into his agency. Trump realizes everything so far failed, the 6th will be last chance. Jan 2nd, Trump calles Raffensberger in a last attempt to have Georgia overrule its own election results. Jan 3rd, Trump has last meeting with both Rosenberg and Clarke to decide what to do with Rosenberg (to replace him with Clarke, but all senior staff at the DOJ would quit) So what we have is that after the lawsuit got shot down by SCOTUS, in December/early January we see a multiprong attack on our democracy: State and election officials are pressured with personals call by the President to lie on his behalf the DOJ is pressure to make bold untruthful declarations about the election (they refused) the DOJ, FBI and CIA leadership are loyalty tested and threatened with being replaced (they and the military made clear they would quit en-masse if that happened) the GOP loyalists in Congress put pressure on their peers to object to the vote counting on the 6th the rhetoric leading up to the Jan 6th protest becomes more and more with fighting words, there are communications about this between organizers and the White House the protest is more and more planned as an assault on the capitol, with tours and shared maps etc. On nearly all of these points, the Jan 6th committee need to question Meadows and others. My guess is that somewhere in early January, Trump with a small group of trustees make the final decision that they will send the horde towards the capitol on the 6th, as it is their last ditch chance to stay in power. It wasn't just a coup attempt. The Jan 6th protest was a last hail mary of a weekslong campaign by the White House to overthrow the election results by illegal means after they exhausted all legal means. It was the grand final of weeks of illegal behavior by Trump and a group of loyalist around him. And as the article states, it is clear why Trump or his cronies were pushing for pardons for people like Meadows. Mind Boggling. Not only the blatant seditious actions but how he ( Trump) gets away with it all. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Chuck Schwartz Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Joe, fatboy gets away with it because the majority of republicans support this fascist . Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Berube Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 And now the majority of Democrats support another fascist, yet we are still talking about the old one... FASAB 56 was probably the most important thing that occurred under Trump in my opinion, much worse than anything he said. We have trillions of dollars missing and that will ensure that transparency never comes about. Trillions buys a lot of advanced technology and application of it for whomever took it. I would start by asking those who control the federal reserve. I’m sure Biden is preparing that thorough national security saving investigation with his AG as we speak... The fact that the above statement is unimaginable for either political party speaks volumes to me and has for a long time. At this point, the US is akin to a central bank vassal state with very little sovereignty. If anyone has read Princes of Yen or Adults in the Room, you might understand where this is headed. It’s not pretty. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Guest Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 minutes ago, Dennis Berube said: And now the majority of Democrats support another fascist, yet we are still talking about the old one... FASAB 56 was probably the most important thing that occurred under Trump in my opinion, much worse than anything he said. We have trillions of dollars missing and that will ensure that transparency never comes about. Trillions buys a lot of advanced technology and application of it for whomever took it. I would start by asking those who control the federal reserve. I’m sure Biden is preparing that thorough national security saving investigation with his AG as we speak... The fact that the above statement is unimaginable for either political party speaks volumes to me and has for a long time. At this point, the US is akin to a central bank vassal state with very little sovereignty. If anyone has read Princes of Yen or Adults in the Room, you might understand where this is headed. It’s not pretty. And most American’s don’t have a clue how money is created, how the Federal Reserve was created and, what it means to have private shareholders controlling the money supply. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Judge signs off on new money laundering probe into Trump’s Scottish golf resorts by John Wright August 11, 2021 https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mcmafia/ Avaaz, a US-based non-profit activism organization, petitioned Scotland's highest court after (members of the Scottish Parliament) rejected calls to pursue an Unexplained Wealth Order against the former US president's Scottish firms," the newspaper reports. "Its petition to the court stated that there are 'no reasonable grounds' to suspect that known sources of lawfully obtained income would have been sufficient to bankroll Mr Trump's acquisition of his Scottish properties." “The Scottish judge, Lord Sandison, "has given the green light for Avaaz to seek a judicial review, a development which will reignite the debate over how Mr Trump acquired his Scottish resorts during a decade-long spending spree," the Scotsman reported. "Since incorporating his first Scottish company 16 years ago, none of Mr Trump's companies have turned a profit, and consequently, have yet to pay a penny in corporation tax," the newspaper reports, before citing the recent indictment of Allen Weisselberg, CFO of the Trump Organization, on tax-fraud charges.” “Following Weisselberg's indictment, he stepped down as director of Trump International Golf Club Scotland — but he is still listed as a person with "significant control" over Golf Recreation Scotland, the parent company for Trump's Turnberry resort.” Three guesses as to who Trump is laundering money for, and the first two don't count. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 2 hours ago, Steve Thomas said: Judge signs off on new money laundering probe into Trump’s Scottish golf resorts by John Wright August 11, 2021 https://www.rawstory.com/trump-mcmafia/ Avaaz, a US-based non-profit activism organization, petitioned Scotland's highest court after (members of the Scottish Parliament) rejected calls to pursue an Unexplained Wealth Order against the former US president's Scottish firms," the newspaper reports. "Its petition to the court stated that there are 'no reasonable grounds' to suspect that known sources of lawfully obtained income would have been sufficient to bankroll Mr Trump's acquisition of his Scottish properties." “The Scottish judge, Lord Sandison, "has given the green light for Avaaz to seek a judicial review, a development which will reignite the debate over how Mr Trump acquired his Scottish resorts during a decade-long spending spree," the Scotsman reported. "Since incorporating his first Scottish company 16 years ago, none of Mr Trump's companies have turned a profit, and consequently, have yet to pay a penny in corporation tax," the newspaper reports, before citing the recent indictment of Allen Weisselberg, CFO of the Trump Organization, on tax-fraud charges.” “Following Weisselberg's indictment, he stepped down as director of Trump International Golf Club Scotland — but he is still listed as a person with "significant control" over Golf Recreation Scotland, the parent company for Trump's Turnberry resort.” Three guesses as to who Trump is laundering money for, and the first two don't count. Steve Thomas This is a significant development. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 Donald Trump is going to get someone killed. I think that is his intention. Talk about incitement. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted August 11, 2021 Share Posted August 11, 2021 (edited) New lows for the day: Utah governor sports "obscene" surname: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/politics/utah-governor-responds-to-constituent-demanding-he-change-obscene-last-name/ar-AANcBCU Giant Confederate flag raised in the Ozarks: https://www.msn.com/en-us/news/us/a-giant-confederate-flag-went-up-in-the-ozarks-one-woman-answered-with-a-billboard/ar-AAMgAcn?li=BBnb7Kz Lowest of all: no reliable news on season 4 of Ozark. Edited August 11, 2021 by David Andrews Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Thomas Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Nowhere in my long years of study, can I find a case in the recorded history of mankind, where a civilized society deliberately set out to kill its own children. Steve Thomas Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 2 hours ago, Steve Thomas said: Nowhere in my long years of study, can I find a case in the recorded history of mankind, where a civilized society deliberately set out to kill its own children. Steve Thomas The N-a-z-i-s killed children with mental disabilities (with Zyklon-B) and, later, Jewish children, but not the general population of their children. And, speaking of N-a-z-i-s, Republicans in Texas have just issued arrest warrants for opposition party politicians who are opposed to one-party rule in the Lone Star State (by voter suppression.) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Douglas Caddy Posted August 12, 2021 Share Posted August 12, 2021 Vaccines fading fast in potency. https://www.axios.com/vaccine-efficacy-biden-pfizer-moderna-death-infetion-4403be7b-ced7-410e-9c19-67e201f031f7.html?utm_source=newsletter&utm_medium=email&utm_campaign=newsletter_axiosam&stream=top Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 This is a pretty good documentary about January 6th. The failure of the Capitol Police to heed the warnings was pretty awful. They were just unprepared and outmanned. That crowd was incited and vicious. Goodman saved the day. IMO if you really study this, I think Gosar was in on it. He kept the House in session while the senate was emptying. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
David Andrews Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Another Watergate series, Gaslit, in preparation. Because you can't have too many Watergate series at once. This one to star Sean Penn and Julia Roberts as John and Martha Mitchell. https://deadline.com/2021/02/gaslit-julia-roberts-sean-penn-watergate-drama-starz-joel-nash-edgerton-exit-matt-ross-joins-1234698013/ Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Niederhut Posted August 13, 2021 Share Posted August 13, 2021 Does the current situation in Afghanistan remind anyone else of the fall of Saigon? The U.S.-fabricated regime in Kabul has no staying power or sufficient indigenous support. Professor Juan Cole has a telling essay this week. My only disagreement with Cole's analysis is that he fails to point out that Dick Cheney and FBI Director Robert Mueller both, ultimately, testified that the evidence linking Osama Bin Laden to 9/11 "was never forthcoming." Yet, blaming Bin Laden for 9/11 was the sole pretext for launching our 20 year, multi-trillion dollar war in Afghanistan. The Great Washington Ponzi Scheme in Afghanistan comes Crashing Down https://www.juancole.com/2021/08/washington-afghanistan-crashing.html Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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