John Kozlowski Posted November 17, 2021 Share Posted November 17, 2021 @James DiEugenio Will the 4 hr version be available to stream on Showtime or will it only be available on DVD? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Ron Bulman Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 1 hour ago, John Kozlowski said: @James DiEugenio Will the 4 hr version be available to stream on Showtime or will it only be available on DVD? Nice to see you post again John. It's been a while. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Vince Palamara Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 3 hours ago, Anthony Thorne said: A powerful moment from the opening montage in the movie. Two men on live TV are listening to an interview with a woman in Dallas. "Where did the shots come from?" "The shots came from the hill." A hand immediately attempts to reach towards the microphone, to take the woman off the air. The woman in question is Jean Hill-see 11:13 Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Anthony Thorne Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Thanks Vince. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 John: The four hour version will be available for streaming on demand, for rent or sale. There will also be a book of the film, and they are working on a three disc set for sale with both versions. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
John Kozlowski Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 2 hours ago, Ron Bulman said: Nice to see you post again John. It's been a while. Thanks Ron, how have you been? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
W. Tracy Parnell Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 JFK Revisited: Was Clay Shaw the elusive Clay Bertrand? (onthetrailofdelusion.com) Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Matt Allison Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Watched it last night and really enjoyed it. Went by really fast; I bet I will prefer the longer cut. Great stuff on CE399 I never knew, and the head wound stuff was really good. Very persuasive. I've haven't done much reading about the girls on the stairs, so my question on that is that I assume the way it was answered was that Oswald beat everyone down the stairs? I'd like to hear about any other evidence of alternate escape routes, as there was definitely one or more people up there, as observed by Rowland and seen on the Hughes film. Great work, Jim and Mr. Stone. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Dennis Berube Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Congratulations Jim, the documentary is really amazing, particularly the way it was edited. The scope of what was attempted was unlike any other documentary I can think of. With a great disparity in audience knowledge and a topic so dense that it could easily fill a 20 season, hour long weekly show, it’s a great credit that all viewers benefit from watching it. Some of the footage, video/audio, was just astounding and really add a personal touch for the audience. The way in which that media was blended with on screen graphics and was “storyboarded” for continuity was 10/10. I can’t imagine how difficult it must have been to edit it all down to 2 hours and leave out so many things that various people probably wanted in, but given that necessity, I’m not sure it could have been improved on. Like many people interested in the JFK case to this level, naturally I would have preferred a 4-6 part series that could have afforded more deliberation, but in reality, for the vast majority of the public, this is probably the best solution. With today’s “epic” genre film basically having been reduced to anything over 2 hours (due to decreased audience attention spans? As a film fan, I’d appreciate Mr. McBride’s comment on that), it’s doubtful the general public could maintain focus for a longer series. It’ll be interesting to re-watch. Thank you for your great work Jim. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Thanks so much Dennis. Perceptive of you to notice that really nice editing job by Kurt Mattilia. We had about fifty hours of interviews, like maybe 46 to be exact since we talked to 29- 30 people. Kurt did a really fine job in getting it down to two accessible hours. And man does it go by fast. How he got 23 people into that 2 hours is amazing. Everyone who likes this wants to see the four hour version. And to be honest, I like that one a bit better since it has more material in it e.g. Kennedy's foreign policy, and on Oswald. And you are also correct, it could have been easily a six night special series. We had that much good stuff in those interviews. That is why there will be a book of the film. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
James DiEugenio Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 Matt: As Barry explains in his book, they moved back the time when Adams and Styles departed. And then they tried to get Shelley and Lovelady to cooperate with them, but that did not work out very well. Its really a disgrace what Belin did in this instance. I mean if this was not the kangaroo court it was, Belin probably would have been met with a disbarment proceeding. And the icing on the cake was when Barry found the Stroud document. Where you had a third witness who was there the whole time on the stairwell. The key point about that? This was addressed to Rankin, and the Commission was still in session. So they knew while they were still working. Barry said, if not for the ARRB, that probably would not have surfaced for a long, long time. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Jamey Flanagan Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I just finished the 2 hour version. I found it a bit underwhelming myself. Not trying to knock it or anything by any means. I thought maybe it's just because I'm pretty knowledgeable about the case that I've heard and read all this stuff before. And that those who aren't as familiar with the subject matter would find this just as eye opening and shocking as I found movies and documentaries when I first started getting into the case. But I can watch the film JFK and it has that same impact on me like when I first saw it. It hits the right beats and is suspenseful. I know that comparing movies and documentaries are like comparing apples and oranges but it just felt a little flat to me. Especially since I really enjoyed the Untold History series so much. Really looking forward to the 4 hour one. I feel like maybe this one was just geared towards casual followers of the assassination and the 4 hour will be more for those who really want to sink their teeth into the case. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Steve Roe Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 5 hours ago, W. Tracy Parnell said: JFK Revisited: Was Clay Shaw the elusive Clay Bertrand? (onthetrailofdelusion.com) Not one or two, twelve persons identify Shaw as Bertrand! That is funny! Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Mileto Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 On 11/13/2021 at 4:20 AM, Keyvan Shahrdar said: No, the HSCA's Richard Preyer was shown on video saying "the pentagon has destroyed it's kennedy assassination file, and we don't know why that was done". What was that business? Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
Micah Mileto Posted November 18, 2021 Share Posted November 18, 2021 I also never heard the story of the autopsy pathologists requesting somebody more experienced than Finck, only to be rejected. Link to comment Share on other sites More sharing options...
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